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  NY puts Landmarks on Alert (Brooklyn Bridge)

  by sf in

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  < http://www.msnbc.com/news/755454.asp?0na=x2112230-

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  raven101

  I am a little curious too, why the sudden inundation of information about possible terrorist acts? Did you hear the one which suggested they were renting aparments to load up with explosives?

  What worries me more than the possibility of 'small' random acts of terrorism is what might happen in response to such . . . I DO NOT WANT TO LIVE IN A POLICE STATE! I also think the weapons grade uranium sitting around in some of the poorly guarded reactor facilities around the world is a serious concern.

  Why suddenly the great increase in warnings and speculation on attacks? Is the government aware that something will happen soon and are they just making sure we are amply cautioned so it doesn't come 'out of the blue', which would take a little of the heat off them?

  I am concerned and always observant, however I have felt for sometime now that we are pretty much doomed as a species anyway if we don't rid ourselves of greed and fear and accept responsibility for our individual souls, not leaving that to some church or belief system from without the individual.
  This would naturally bring about acknowledgement of our responsibility to each other, as well as the planet, and bring with it awareness of the indivisibility of all things.

  Barring that we'll go out however, and whenever we as a community spirit choose, judging from the indications it won't be too far in the future. If you have any doubts about the seriousness and severity of our effects on the planet do a little research (check out the satellite footage of the disintegration of the Larsen B ice shelf this April for instance) and when your done with that and telling yourself the scientists predictions of another 50 years or so of 'normalcy' check out 'the butterfly effect' and the general theories of chaos. I have done the research and what I have learned is the shit could hit the fan anytime people, serious global shit.

  You don't need to feel helpless or afraid, JUST LOOK INTO YOURSELF FOR THE ANSWER, you won't find it without.

  Seriously,

  raven101
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  Demons and Seances....What do you think?

  by VioletAnai in

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  i posted this in part on another thread, but am curious to know if anyone else has had experiences with seances.. my mum told me her story:.

  it was her aunty may apparantly.

  things started getting out of hand.

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  raven101

  Dear Violet,

  In my own experience I have to echo gsx's opinion . . . since leaving christianity none of my spiritual experiences or revelations have been negative, much less malevolent.

  I was just commenting the other day in fact that the only demonic encounters I had heard of were from people that believed in demons (christians etc.)

  Hylander said something to the effect that encounters people attributed to demons were in fact misinterpreted encounters with ghosts. My opinion is along the same bent but I actually do not believe in ghosts or demons, I look at it pretty vaguely.

  I think we are too quick to assign characteristics and personalities to things we don't understand. Yes I believe there is great and mysterious power in the universe and I think we can access it, however I think it is neither 'good' nor 'bad' until manifested through the filter of our personal belief system.

  In short I say believe what you want, just know that what you believe is likely what you'll get . . . so make it a good thing.

  take care,

  raven101
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  Objectivity and This Site

  by Eutapro in

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  i must say that as a neutral scientific observer of this site--it seems that things are kind of one-sided here.

  i thought this was a board with both devout jws and ex-jws on it.

  on further reflection it appears that this medium of communication should probably be called ex-jw.com.

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  raven101

  Hi Eu, welcome to the board. Although I disagree with you on a number of points I believe your argument is not without some validity. One of your quotes however did disturb me;

  They claim that their views are true and by default not false. Anyone making such claims bears a fairly weighty onus.

  My husband and I were at the zoo yesterday and a female chimpanzee that was in oestrus and she was bearing a decidedly weighty onus . . . it wasn't a pleasant sight. I hope this is something we can avoid, you don't think theres any real reason for concern do you?

  concerned,

  raven101
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  My mom WILL love this

  by simplesally in

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  well, you all seem to have moms in the "truth"..... my mom isn't, never was and was unhappy i became one.

  but then she came around to accept it and not have a bad view of jws.. now i am df'd and she was madder than a hornet.

  even called one of the elders and gave him a piece of her mind.

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  Hey simplesally congratulations! I'm really happy for you. It feels wonderful to give your child a happy birthday doesn't it?

  I remember how excited I was when I got birthdays back, they were jerked away when I was 8 and I was thrilled to get them back! One good thing about missing all those birthdays though . . .

  I'm remarkably youthful!
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  How about a laugh? PICTURE 2

  by ballistic in

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  here's a picture straight from jw-media.org.

  all post what you think the one guy is saying to the other.... .

  i've got a few ideas.

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  How about a laugh? PICTURE 2

  by ballistic in

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  here's a picture straight from jw-media.org.

  all post what you think the one guy is saying to the other.... .

  i've got a few ideas.

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  raven101

  "I hear tell the organizations thinking about banning smoking, Sister!"

  "No way! They wouldn't do that to us, if I tried to quit I'd probly crack up!"
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  How about a laugh? PICTURE 2

  by ballistic in

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  here's a picture straight from jw-media.org.

  all post what you think the one guy is saying to the other.... .

  i've got a few ideas.

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  raven101

  
  We'll see if this works . . . (there should be a pictue of the guys looking at the bible)

  "Gezunheit! Brother . . . my that looks like a nasty sinus infection!
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  why disfellowship homosexuals . . .

  by raven101 in

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  why does the organization disfellowship homosexuals when tho homosexuality is against 'biblical' mores it is not illegal and it is an issue involving consenting adults .

  .. whereas pedophilia is not only illegal and immoral by societal and biblical standards but is an act of the worst kind of assault inflicted on an innocent helpless child by an accountable adult?.

  just wondering... raven101.

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  raven101

  Would like to add a story that sad posts about emotional neglect in the congregations had me thinking about last night;

  A sister in the congregation I attended once told me bitterly about her dead son.

  He had been raised a witness but had been disfellowshipped because he was gay, she said he had gone out into the world and he had gotten infected with HIV, he later came back to the 'truth' and died at home with her.

  She was sad and bitter but she talked like he more or less got what he deserved (from a biblical standpoint, she obviously loved her son) . . . and I'll never forget how she summmed it up . . .
  "He came back to the truth but he was too sick to preach , he couldn't even DO ANYTHING for Jehovah!"

  Even though I had either been actively in the organization or actively believing it was the truth at that point in my life I was very disturbed at her attitude and how whe felt obligated to feel.

  I remember wondering why she felt an Omnipotent god needed a human to
  DO ANYTHING for him.

  glad to get that off my chest

  raven101
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  why disfellowship homosexuals . . .

  by raven101 in

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  why does the organization disfellowship homosexuals when tho homosexuality is against 'biblical' mores it is not illegal and it is an issue involving consenting adults .

  .. whereas pedophilia is not only illegal and immoral by societal and biblical standards but is an act of the worst kind of assault inflicted on an innocent helpless child by an accountable adult?.

  just wondering... raven101.

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  raven101

  Why does the organization disfellowship homosexuals when tho homosexuality is against 'biblical' mores it is not illegal and it is an issue involving consenting adults . . .

  whereas pedophilia is not only illegal and immoral by societal and biblical standards but is an act of the worst kind of assault inflicted on an innocent HELPLESS child by an accountable adult?

  just wondering..

  raven101

  yet allow pedophilia
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  Thinking about writing the society

  by raven101 in

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  never cared to bother before, thought it was rather funny that they still had someone on the books who been studying diverse religions and belief systems .

  read tarot cards etc.. but the last week or so that i have been a member here, reading all the horrible, atrocious, unpardonable behaviour toward family members the organization encourages toward df'd da'd family members .

  remembering throught you alls related experiences the deep-seated damaging fear they instilled into my life .

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  Never cared to bother before, thought it was rather funny that they still had someone on the books who been studying diverse religions and belief systems . . . read tarot cards etc.

  But the last week or so that I have been a member here, reading all the horrible, atrocious, unpardonable behaviour toward family members the organization encourages toward df'd da'd family members . . .

  remembering throught you alls related experiences the deep-seated damaging fear they instilled into my life . . .

  reading some of their illogical manipulative propaganda, hearing it in the 'societies' words for the first time in a long time, first time since I was blinded by unquestioning ignorance I was indoctrinated into.

  I'm considering writing them and telling them how and why my eyes were opened.

  What do y'all think? Any input welcome. . .

  raven101