Posts by raven101

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pictures from ALASKA :-)

by zev in

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heres some scens from alaska... .

hope you enjoy them, though the pictures dont do the beauty of this state any justice at all.

these two, is where i spent most of my time, drinking at the bar on gm's mastercard account .

How many guys here wash the dishes?

by ashitaka in

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or do other chores?

any here archaic and expect the woman to do all of the work?

my mother taught me that women don't need our help, but we should give it anyway, to show our love.

raven101

My husband cooks, I do the dishes. We alternate on the laundry, he picks up around the house, I do the dusting and mopping.

Even when I do cook tho I do the dishes, not because he won't just cause he doesn't do em to my specs. . . his hands are too big to get in the glasses and he rinses with COLD water.

Frankly, unless I didn't work outside the house (or attend school full time) I would never do the work all by myself. Thats pretty shitty if you ask me. Call it slavery.

Raven101

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LSD saved me from the JWS

by space in

i would like to know some personal experiences with dabbling with hallucigenic drugs as far as seeing a deeper level of conciosness than the one given to you by the jws.

when i left the jws i was about 17 and my father was one of the main elders.

so i had to watch my p's and q's so i wouldnt make my father look bad.

raven101

Ho ho ha ha I thought you said LDS too! I thoght from bad to just as bad but hey at least they promote achievement!

Oh LSD, well I agree more than heartily with the oneness thing, it is perfectly obvious all around . . . with or without drugs, all yu gotta do is open your eyes (all three of them).

Raven101

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non-jw family might hire jw nanny--r we crazy?

by fred in

we are a non-jw family with 2 kids under 5 thinking about hiring a jw live in nanny.

she is in her 30's, active jw.

we all have talked about mutual respect for each others religions, and all agreed to a hands off policy.

raven101

This may sound way out there but,

Why don't yu judge her on her own merits?

Raven101

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To define an attractor is not simple. Tsonis gives the definition of attractors as "a limit set that collects trajectories".(1) A strange attractor is simply the pattern of the pathway, in visual form, produced by graphing the behavior of a system. Since many, if not most, nonlinear systems are unpredictable and yet patterned, it is called strange and since it tends to produce a fractal geometric shape, it is said to be attracted to that shape. A system confines a particular entity and its related objects or processes to an imaginary or real frame as the subject of study, this is its "state space" or phase space. The behavior in this state space tends to contract in certain areas, this contraction is called "the attractor". The attractor is actually "a set of points such that all trajectories nearby converge to it". Now tell me what an attractor is. You can't and neither can I, even with Tsonis's definition. Scientists, mathematicians, and computer specialists can show you pictures of how they operate, but they cannot tell you what they are. Maybe, that is why Daniel Stein, compares Chaos/Complexity to a "theological concept", because lots of people talk about it but no one knows what it really is.(2) (Found in the Preface to the first volume of lectures given at the 1988 Complex Systems Summer School for the Santa Fe Institute in New Mexico)

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natural phenomena page

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I did something really stupid.... :(

by Eppie in

hey,.

ok, i need all the advice i can get...... last week i told my sister (she is jw, as is my entire family) that i did something stupid.

i had just broken up with my boyfriend because he was cheating on me.... and in some kind of drunk-revenge-mood i slept with his best friend..... .

raven101

Do you have a problem with lying?

I'm pretty good at this . . . I save my lies for absoulute necessity and make sure they are irrefutable and that they stick.

So you didn't actually SAY you slept with him?

If I were you I would just talk to my sister again, like real casual (bring it up as a side note, so it's not obvious),

"Well, at least we didn't go ALL THE WAY!" if she says she thought you did "God no! I'm not that stupid!" (look at her like your shocked she's such an idiot) "Did you think that?" "I wondered why you were looking at me like that!"

You get the gist, whatever works, but stick to it. Then she has nothing to say, no guilt at witholding a 'dirty secret'.

Your off the hook, she has nothing to report, everybody's happy.

And next time you speak into someones ear, pretend theres a megaphone projecting out there other ear in the direction of the person(s) you would most dread them repeating your confidence to.

good luck,

Raven101

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AM I NORMAL?

by bay64me in

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i have been meeting-free for a year now, (although i did attend the last memorial mainly out of curiosity).

i have learned enough now, since leaving "the truth" to know that i'm never going back.

but i was wondering how long it takes to get all of the shit out of your head?

raven101

What has helped me more than anything probably has been spending time researching MANY religions and belief systems (not heavy duty y'know, just getting the gist of them), it helps to see the similarities and dissimilarities, and to see how they are all reflections of the time period and culture they arose in.

This helped me begin to really rid myself of that infuriating, bible-thumping, doom-saying little voice in my head. Indoctrination can be a terrible thing but it CAN be dealt with . . . even disposed of.

The point is that the WT is not the only reference point I have anymore.

Of course your normal, you were taught to see and consider EVERYTHING in relation to JW theocracy. Its just habit man, and understandable anger at feeling a victim to programming, understandable sadness at a loss of security, however false it was.

If you can learn to use your own mind and heart and not rely upon or swallow ANYBODYS teaching, your ahead of at least 90% of the world, so it will have been worth it. At least it was for me.

Raven101