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jam master jay

by comforter in

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the nameless one heard last night that some rapper name jam master jay died.

i not too crazy about rap.

but the nameless one regret the loss of life.

I read that he and another guy were at a recording studio. Jay was shot once in the head and died at the scene; the other guy was shot in the leg. Assailant is unknown and still at large, as far as I know.

He was married and had 3 children. Too too sad.

My sister and I rocked Run DMC tapes in our boombox 24 hours a day back in the 80's, much to the dismay of our staid JW parents. We wore the "Raising Hell" tape out, quite literally. 2 back-country kids in the middle of Nowhere,VA...we couldn't get enough of their music!!!

So sad, especially since I remember them speaking publicly on several occasions against the violent/gang/drug turn hip-hop was beginning to take.

I miss those days, when it was all about "My Adidas, roaming all over coliseum floors" and such. Sigh.....

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"Jay's like King Midas, as I was told
Everything that he touched turned to gold
He's the greatest of the great, get it straight he's great
Claim fame cause his name is known in every state
His name is Jay, to see him play will make you say:

"God damn, that DJ made my day!" ---"Peter Piper", by Run-DMC

Edited by - razorMind on 1 November 2002 1:7:48

Edited by - razormind on 1 November 2002 1:10:34

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Physical appearance IN the troof vs. out

by razorMind in

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i just had a question.....a rant is intertwined as well (sorry) .

when i was in the jw's, i noticed so many "new one'z" and "interested one'z" who were nicely dressed people.

many were fairly well-groomed, the women & girls with nice stylish fashion taste.

razorMind

I just had a question.....a rant is intertwined as well (sorry)

When I was in the JW's, I noticed so many "new ONE'Z" and "interested ONE'Z" who were nicely dressed people. Many were fairly well-groomed, the women & girls with nice stylish fashion taste.

After they were in it for several years, I also noticed a lot whose looks progressively went downhill. They progressively got less and less nicely dressed. Hair did the same. General grooming went downhill, too. Some went through significant weight gain. I distinctly remember a young girl from NYC whose JW grandmother down here gained custody of her. She was an extremely well-dressed (classic-stylish, not "hoochie"-stylish) young lady whose appearance generally deteriorated, hair and all, over the years living as a JW. I'd like to add that said grandmother was quite wealthy herself. I'd also like to note that this girl ended up fleeing back to her other relatives in NYC.

My youngest sister basically looks like shit. She is extremely attractive but my mother refuses to buy her anything but frumpy flowered near-ankle-length dresses. She had to FIGHT my parents to get rid of her coke-bottle glasses and get contacts. She has seborrheic dermatitis so bad that it looks like she has vitiligo. Her face is like, 2 distinctly different colors. (side note: if you, reader, have seborrheic dermatitis, especially on your face, please get it taken care of. It can get bad. REALLY bad.)

She has severe allergies and sinus problems so bad that I can barely stand to listen to her talk. She sounds like she's talking through a long hollow tube. One recent sinus infection left her with limited hearing in one ear--I have to get on her good side to talk, or else she can't hear me. She gained an alarming amount of weight and has the worst body-image issues I've ever known a person to have. She hasn't seemed to give a damn about the most basic grooming issues. I mean, her skin is absolutely HORRIFYING...

I have been seeing a lot more of her lately; she moved away from my parents briefly, and now have moved back in with them. She seems to care slightly more about her appearance in recent weeks. She's lost right much weight, actually combs her hair now, and has bought nicer clothes. Actually, much of these changes have occurred since she's been in contact with me. I try not to make too much mention of how bad her skin looks; I just ask her (repeatedly) if the rash doesn't hurt and if she's using anything for it. (side note AGAIN: if s.d. gets severe enough, it can go far beyond simple dandruff & skin flaking. It can become quite painful.)

These two points in this thread are somehow tied together.....I hurt so badly for my sister because I was in the EXACT SAME PLACE she is in now. I think she suffers from depression, actually. My whole appearance was SHITTY while I was in the JW's and living at home. Although I did at least make some efforts to look groomed and clean...whereas my sister doesn't. When I got away from my parents and from the JW's, I felt SO MUCH BETTER about myself. I started caring for myself and trying to look nice. I have s.d. too, but I went to the dermatologist and got medicine for it. I'm no beauty queen, but DAMN, I try to look my best.

I don't know how to help her...my parents (hard-core, staunch elder and elderette) truly don't seem to care. They constantly harp on her about how much weight she's gained and how she needs to stop being so lazy and stop eating the wrong foods. They've kept her totally dependent on them all her life--she's 22 and has never had a steady job, can't cook or wash clothes, and until the last few months didn't know what a checking account was. I won't go into the guilt trips. I am just now finding out about truly fucked-up stuff they have done to her over the years---severe control issues, guilt issues, etc. Way worse than when I and my other sister lived there.

They have drilled into her that they will literally die if she, their last child, leaves the "troof" like their other 2 kids. She's aware that my parents are 1/2 of the problem, but how can I tell her that the "troof" is the other half? I've made my point with her about my general feelings about JW, especially df'ing, but right now she's at the stage where she keeps telling me that "all congregations aren't like the one we grew up in" and "the df'ing policy isn't as strict in all congregations", etc. etc. Again I say, a few years back I was defending them the exact same way. I can't bombard her with too much right now, else the wall will go up completely. I fear my parents have irreparably damaged her and I don't know how I can help her.

There's other shit involved too--she got married to a JW boy right out of high school who's basically in the same situation. They are like two 10-yr-olds in young adult bodies. Right now they've gotten evicted and are back in with my folks, who are treating them both with hatred and contempt. I want to scream to my folks, "BUT ISN'T THIS JUST WHAT YOU FUCKING WANTED? For us to marry 'nice JW boys'? Isn't this why you think me and other sis are fucking failures, cause we married 'worldly' boys? You got a daughter who's still in the 'troof' and a nice JW SIL, so WHY AREN'T YOU FUCKING HAPPY? HUH? HUH?"

I don't know what exactly I am saying in this post--I started out with a question and I just can't stop typing. I am sorry this ran on so long, thanks if you read this far. If you'd like to comment your personal experiences regarding either the thread title or whatever, please feel free. Thanks again.

Edited by - razorMind on 19 October 2002 12:12:9

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Can someone please help me identify this song...

by razorMind in

when i was little (mid- to -late 70's, very early 80's), my dad had a 45 record titled "reach" (or something).

some of the lyrics are below:.

you've got to reach, a little bit higher,.

razorMind

YES!!! YES!!! That is EXACTLY IT!!! I'm visualizing the record now and that INDEED is the name that was on it.

Thank you so much...I KNEW somebody here would know.

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Can someone please help me identify this song...

by razorMind in

when i was little (mid- to -late 70's, very early 80's), my dad had a 45 record titled "reach" (or something).

some of the lyrics are below:.

you've got to reach, a little bit higher,.

razorMind

When I was little (mid- to -late 70's, very early 80's), my dad had a 45 record titled "Reach" (or something). Some of the lyrics are below:

You've got to reach, a little bit higher,
When the light within becomes a fire.
Hey, hey, oh, oh, you've got to grow.
You've got to reach a little bit higher,
Get a hold on all that you desire.
Search your soul and you'll never grow old.

I have done a lyrics search on the Internet and keep coming up with a group "New Grass Revival". I listened to a sample of it, and it sounds NOTHING like the record I've heard. The sample was bluegrass music with banjos, etc. The record we had had a real heavy bass sound and was, well, really funky...and somewhere in the middle of the song was an instrumental part, maybe an organ, before the lyrics resumed.

It didn't sound even remotely bluegrass-y. However, the guys singing on our record were definitely White. When you turned the stereo up, the bass would shake the house.

Could somebody PLEEEEEZE help me out? Many, many thanks in advance!!!

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Targeting recruitment of deaf people?

by Simon in

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friends

i can't say for certain that the two women who called at our door yesterday were jws but i would be incredibly surprised if they weren't.

you know the witness walk, the bag, the clothes.

the makeup ... everything about them screamed "witnesses".. so what did they want?.

razorMind

Aaaahh.....now I see why the JW's who kept hounding my mother- and brother-in-law were so persistent. We thought we' d have to end up calling the cops on them--they refused to take no for an answer.

Actually, once my bro-in-law learned that they didn't celebrate Christmas, he refused to listen to anything they had to say.

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Halloween Is Coming- wanna have some fun??

by xenawarrior in

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friends

http://www.jack-o-lantern.com/patterns/patterns.html

if you've never carved pumpkins- it's a blast!!!.

and then: pumpkin seeds!!!!!!!.

razorMind

How, exactly, do you eat the pumpkin seeds? Do you hull them first? Or do you just chomp the whole seed?

Sure do sound yummy.....!!!

Edited by - razorMind on 22 September 2002 1:19:29

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Who Makes the BEST Donut (Doughnut)?

by Funchback in

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friends

my vote goes to krispy kreme because they make one delicious glazed donut/doughnut!

razorMind

Once, when I was in the 8th or 9th grade, we had to make doughnuts in Home Economics class.

Just plain unglazed--no frills, no icing, no nothing. They were the absolute best I have ever put in my mouth. I'll never be able to re-create them.

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help, for those leaving cults

by zev in

jw
friends

one year and a half ago, i went to my boss, and i leveled with her about my life as a jw, my doubts, and concerns.. she tried to find me professional help, with the many connects she has with professionals, and various organizations she is connected with, and came up with nothing.. fortunately, i managed without the help, somehow with the support and love from my family, and one very special person .

last week we (gwen and i) attended a support group, something we became aware of.

i had never heard of such a thing, and found out, they are starting the first of its kind support system here in massachusetts.. the place is called : the new england institute of religious research .

razorMind

Does anyone know about any support groups in the Richmond, VA or surrounding area?

Thanks in advance!!!

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JEHOVAH'S WITNESS TYPES

by Deli King in

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friends

how many of the following types did you have in your home cong.?

the leader(s).

(this is the only one not likely to be found in the local congregation, at least not for long.

razorMind

ROFLMAO.....

Can I add one more?

THE "LA-VAH"

There's always one young JW male who's legendary amongst the young JW sisters, both the teens and young adults. (In my day it was a young "light-skinnedededededed" Black brother who had green eyes. He was famous with the young sisters throughout many surrounding congregations.)

The "LA-VAH" exudes a beguiling charm, knowing just the right glance and flirtatious words to set a young JW sister's heart a-thumping. The dude is SMOOOOTH. Suits are flawlessly cut and fit. Hair is always expertly trimmed & styled, figure nicely toned as well.

Because of his impeccable (well, outwardly) reputation--usually as a ministerial servant--he's a surefire hit with the mothers of the young sisters as well. At assemblies and "gatherings", fierce competition ensues for the "LA-VAH'S" attentions. Mothers try desperately to snag "THE LA-VAH" for a son-in-law; what a "fine, UPSTANDING (ha!) young brother!"

The "LA-VAH" usually goes through quite a few broken engagements with young JW sisters. Extreme use of cologne is a must.

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There's one in every congregation, or at least every circuit. It never fails!

Edited by - razorMind on 16 September 2002 0:49:27

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Edited by - razorMind on 16 September 2002 0:54:45

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Whats the dumbest thing you were counselled for?

by Beck_Melbourne in

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i was once counselled by the elders for watching 'knots landing'....it became widely known in the congregation that me and a few other sisters would rush home from field service to watch our favourite soapie.

if we missed it, we would ring each other up for an update...or...if we weren't near a tv we would ask someone to put the phone handset on the top of their tv so we could hear it...pathetic huh...but that was all the excitement we could scrounge up in our otherwise dull and uneventful lives.

one of the elder's wive's conscience got the better of her...and she confessed to her husband..lol.

razorMind

We ought to get together on this. A good ground sterilizer put on the lawn in the shape of a pentagram would do the trick.

I'm game!!! Throw in some type of Smurf items, too. I could get a good chuckle at some of the more "high-strung" sisters swooning at the experience of being visited by THE DEEMINNZZ!!! as the brothers gallantly attempt to take control of the situation, suit coats flying. There also needs to be a stretcher nearby, because I might die laughing.

Seriously(?) though, I got counseled for...

1) Wearing this dress that had a back cutout in a large diamond shape. The lowest part of the diamond reached my lower back. A ministerial servant complained after I wore it to a meeting.

2) Saying the words "funky", "crap" and "butt", mentioning Boy George during conversation with my friends after a meeting...

3) Being seen walking to the bus stop with male "worldly" classmates...being on the phone with male "worldly" classmates, etc.

4) For having a photo taken of myself riding piggyback on a fellow male JW friends back, at his JW mom's baby shower. Mind you, we were surrounded by fellow JW's at this shower when the photo was taken.

5) Owning a 45 of Madonna's "Papa Don't Preach"...because it "glorified teen pregnancy and fornicaton."

5) For buying a set of fuzzy dice for my first car. Had to take 'em down. I am proud to say that I've recently bought another set of fuzzy dice that proudly hang from my rearview mirror.

Razormind, of the Pimpin'-the-Fuzzy-Dice-With-a-Vengeance Class

Edited by - razorMind on 12 September 2002 1:42:29

Edited by - razorMind on 12 September 2002 1:46:49