Saethydd

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  I finally get why people like to shun.

  by poopie in

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  it finally hit me today.

  why do religions enjoy shunning.

  because many people feel like being close to god makes them special however just being special is not enough for many religious people that shun they must feel extra special how?

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  Saethydd

  @Rainbow_Troll

  Well for one thing, if you don't know that they aren't planning to come back, then the DF'd person themself might turn you in to the elders.

  In the case you mentioned though, perhaps they really do fear angering God.
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  What every modern civilized western society needs: "9yo girls 'physically & spiritually' ready to marry" – Malaysian MP

  by kpop in

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  i'm at a loss for words man.

  will there be a "woman's march" over this?

  will radical 3rd wave feminists come out and demand his resignation?.

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  Saethydd

  Yeah, don't try social reform to fix the culture that causes problems for a rape victim, just marry them to the monster that caused those problems in the first place. Brilliant solution!
  
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  Evolution is a Fact #27 - Monkeys, Typewriters, Shakespeare, 747s etc.

  by cofty in

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  most creationist arguments can be summarised as "complexity, complexity, complexity - therefore god".

  we have all heard the illustrations about the odds of (insert favourite example) evolving, being less than 10,000 monkeys typing macbeth by pure chance.

  evolution is not like that.

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  Saethydd

  You seem to attract creationists something awful cofty, they keep going back to dig up threads over a year old just to try and pick a fight using half-baked arguments.

  As I said before: To have perfect selection in one generation, you had to pay the price of the elimination of the other 9,999 in that same generation (destroying your population) for the evolutionary scenario to work. Your example tried to have the benefit of perfect selection, without the price. There is a cost to selective replacement that must must be paid. In this case the cost in the real world would indeed be the lives of the other 9,999. I was simply showing that an evolutionists own "rosy example scenario" when adjusted for reality runs into trouble.

  He has already said (repeatedly) that the beneficial change would disperse over several generations, not that it would be "perfect selection in one generation." I suppose you could modify the illustration to make it more closely fit the reality of natural selection by saying that some of the monkeys keep typing and some are given the first word and that word is slowly passed out to the other monkeys, but it is kind of a pointless change, because that has nothing to do with the main point, which is that evolution is a gradual process that happens in small steps with each individual member of species "working" simultaneously to produce beneficial changes and then spreading them through the population in successive generations.

  In other words, while no single monkey is likely to type out a work of Shakespeare on its own, it is far more probable that a large group of monkeys might each be capable of typing out part of it and by pooling their work get the desired end result.
  
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  "There is evidence of a Creator if you just look for it"

  by unsure in

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  2. beliefs

  (for the record, i’m agnostic who is earnestly seeking an objective, honest and concrete hope for something greater).

  “there is evidence of a creator if you just look for it”.

  many of us have heard similar sentences from believers regarding proof of creator, proof that their religion is the correct one, proof that their particular sect is the right one, proof that their individual sects interpretation of a certain religious text is the right one, proof that their own personal interpretation of a certain religious text is the right one; the list goes on.. in one of my previous posts, i shared the following thought of mine:.

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  Saethydd

  I was thinking about this thing earlier today. Many people would argue that their particular Holy Book is better than the others because it produces better results, or espouses better principle etc. However, such things as that are incredibly subjective. In all objective ways these books are the same.

  They were written down originally by men, they were copied over the centuries by men, they were translated by men, and it is up to men to interpret them, and they are so long and unclear that they are interpreted many different ways by many different people.

  If an almighty God truly wanted to make his word stand out from other false works it wouldn't be that hard to provide objective evidence that would convince even the biggest skeptic that one particular Holy Book is different.

  They could have made it a book that requires no translation, anyone who picked it up could read exactly what the Creator intended for them to read without any miscommunication caused by copyists or translators. The creator could have also included his Word coded into the human genome, or perhaps written clearly in the stars.

  Such things as that truly would provided unimpeachable evidence of such a books divine origins. Much more so than a bunch of prophecies that are either vague, could very easily have been written down after they happened, or could have been "fulfilled" in a fictitious account that never happened. (Especially when the prophecy in question wasn't identified as a prophecy about that subject when it was originally recorded.)
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  Evolution Deniers - An Endangered Species

  by cofty in

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  evolution explains how everything descended from a common ancestor over millions of years.

  creationists only seem to want to talk about what came before that common ancestor.

  just for the sake of discussion let's pretend that the following is true.

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  Evolution Deniers - An Endangered Species

  Well, that's natural selection doing its thing.
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  Have You Found Your Place in the World?

  by Rainbow_Troll in

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  2. experiences

  we were all told when we were in the watchtower that we should be grateful to be part of such a loving family.

  we were told that just beyond the superficial glamour of the world was a quagmire of despair, emptiness and pain waiting to suck us in.

  obviously, we took that part with a mountain of salt or we wouldn't be here today.

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  Saethydd

  I'm in college and I've managed to find loads of friends that aren't addicted to drugs. (At least not as far as I know.) They seem to be fairly happy, most of them are probably Christian, but the two I've gotten the closest with are agnostic like me and very sympathetic to my current plight with my family. I would suggest you keep looking before you give up on people entirely.
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  I need your opinions and recommendations please.

  by bola in

  1. watchtower
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  after my exit from the watchtower shunning cult, i have received tons of invitations from different churches.

  but because i am aware of religious cults, i need recommendations of churches that are not cults at all.

  after exiting the watchtower cult, i don't want to fall into another religious cults.

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  Saethydd

  I'm an agnostic at the moment, and don't see much worth in pursuing religion personally.

  Perhaps you could examine Buddhist beliefs though if you seek serenity and spirituality.
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  Triyearly Snoozefest, Here I Come

  by Saethydd in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my family is dragging me to the "increase your faith in the 7 guys in new york who control your life.

  " circuit assembly today.

  hopefully, i can get a chair or two between them and me so i can finish ready harry potter and the order of the phoenix while i'm there.

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  Saethydd

  My family is dragging me to the "Increase Your Faith in the 7 Guys in New York Who Control Your Life." Circuit Assembly today. Hopefully, I can get a chair or two between them and me so I can finish ready Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix while I'm there.
  
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  JW's And Their Education Level

  by Yesu Kristo Bwana Wangu in

  1. jw
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  i was thinking about this.... in my congregation, i was literally the only one with universitary education, out of a cong from around 110 people.... and we're very close to a very big university, which makes it even weirder.. on the other hand... sooo many here with their own business, mostly small cleaning businesses.

  cleaning windows, or cleaning somewhere else... painters.... all have jobs that do not require any education level, cos they never had a decent education.. how is the composition of the jw people/congs that you know about?.

  how many painters... cleaners... compared to people with jobs that require higher education?.

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  Saethydd

  There is nothing stopping anyone from reading books and publications about astronomy...one of the best astronomers I know is self-taught and supplements that with contacts in that field.
  

  If you were referencing WTWizards post, he said astrology. not astronomy.
  
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  Born in baptisms to avoid embarrassment

  by Spoletta in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i noticed a recent commenter mention an assembly that had only one baptism, a born in.

  the last assembly i went to had three baptisms, of which two were born ins.

  could part of the motivation for youth baptism be to avoid the embarrassment of an assembly with no baptisms at all?

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  Saethydd

  I recall that the Assembly immediately before the Convention at which I was baptized 11 years ago didn't have any baptismal candidates.

  I can also recall several other Assemblies with only one or two baptized.