Contrary to what the witnesses think, most of mainstream Christianity believes that ultimately people will be living on earth, and Jesus with them...'the tent if God will be with them'. They don't speculate about the specifics of what this will mean, but they know they will not stay in heaven forever.
FayeDunaway
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Why is Paradise Earth to be taken literally?
by I_love_Jeff inwhy do the jehovah's witnesses feel that paradise earth is a literal place?.
i posted this question in yahoo answers if anyone is interested: https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20150125163818aatmbtr.
why believe poetic promised land prophecy is to be taken literally, but scriptures saying the earth will end must be taken figuratively?
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How did you get through mind numbing meetings?
by minimus inas an elder, i used to find a legitimate reason to wander.
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FayeDunaway
When I was a child, I used to make sure there was a little piece of thread in my pocket. I would pull it out during the meeting and very carefully tie knots...trying to build a bigger knot in the middle. This was seriously a regular survival tactic. I would be so desperate if I realized I had forgotten a string.
Also, there were bathroom breaks. I would very foolishly stand up and go down the long side of of chairs, just to make the break THAT much longer. Finally one sister stopped me and yell-whispered "Why do you go THiS way? You disturb every single person in this whole row!! Go the other way!!!' She had to say this to me, because my mother was so oblivious, completely enraptured by the meetings, and had no idea what I was doing. I was petrified by the sisters comment and never did it again, and always rued that I couldn't, cuz that was like 10 more seconds of meeting time without something to do.
Oh my god, it was so miserable. A little hell for children. I'm so glad I survived that first 40 years, and never, ever have to go to a meeting again, until it's funerals for family members :(.
When I had my own kids, I would stay in the nursing room like half an hour at a time. When they got older, we would go for walks around the KH. We used to watch bees and ants. The interminable circuit assemblies were the worst. Toward the end it was so bad. I tried all I could do not to start screaming during meetings. I had to constantly tap my feet or hands just to stay in control.
Never, ever, ever again!! Ever ever!!!!!!!! And service too!!!!!!!! Always HATED service. Funny thing is, that since I left, I always jump at every opportunity to go knock on neighbors doors! Whether passing out fliers about block parties or a school campaign or whatever. It's so weird cuz I always hated service. I guess it's a life habit and I get my fix this way.
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Jehovah's Witnesses Choose Ignorance - Blog
by daringhart13 ini wanted to test the forum to see how my links come up.. i blog on my jw experience.
here is my opinion on why so many know nothing about this 'religion'.... http://darrinhart.hubpages.com/hub/jehovahs-witnesses-and-the-chosen-path-of-ignorance .
i know there are some newbies....if interested, i also wrote a short ebook that may help some:.
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FayeDunaway
An elder told me once that he stopped reading National Geographic because it seemed like every issue had something about evolution in it.
He would rather not read about something that would put doubt in his mind. Ignorance is a protection from questioning and guilt.
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GB says, "Our way of worship will soon be altered."
by Separation of Powers inmy mom called me yesterday to ask how i was doing.
i hadn't seen her in a while, so it was nice to hear her voice.
we went through the motions of jw small talk and then she started telling me about her co visit from last week.
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FayeDunaway
Yes I heard something like 'Buckle your seat belts' 5 years ago.
I actually think this particular scare is the GB getting people ready for the 'wicked world' to turn on them, so they think they will have to change their way of worship, Sell Kingdom Halls?
this is all freaky to me. It's really strange hearing about them making mainstream moves and then reading about them in reality reinforcing their hardline policies. It's an easygoing facade covering some very dark stuff. They're becoming more like Mormons every day.
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Opinions of GB members
by campaign of hate ini would like to give my opinion of each gb member.
i would probably split them into 3 groups.. group 1 - the hardliners.
tony the 3rd: he knows exactly what hes's doing and saying.
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FayeDunaway
I want to personally thank Sam herd for his hardline talk while visiting our circuit assembly years ago, that got me to read the bible instead of listen to him. I chose the book of John. Then fell in love with Christ.
and I had been sooo excited there was finally a black brother on the GB. But was very disappointed he was THAT kind of brother. During his talk, I kept reading about Jesus and salvation and love, and he had equal representation with the father in the Greek scriptures, everywhere I looked. Then I would look up and listen for his name, but it was always Jehovah Jehovah jehovah. I was like, something's wrong here. This doesn't match.
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What to do about wife and elders
by Crazyguy init seams like every time i turn around i find out that the elders are trying to meet with one of my kids or are talking with them about things and of course my wife is instigating it.
if i say anything to my children she mentions something and they come running.
one of the ms's is also studying with them as well.
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FayeDunaway
Wasanelder, didn't Ray Franz write commentary on the book of James?? -
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What will JW.org / Watchtower be like in 15 years?
by jw07 inover the past few days i've been reading and watching bill and melinda gates speak about their plans for a better world by 2030. they bet that due to technology and the compassion of people the world should improve more in the next 15 years than it has in all of history.
specifically lower child mortality rate, eradication of polio and guinea worm among other diseases, improvement of standards of living, greater access to education etc.. i'm a realist, so i'm not looking for miracles, but i believe most of these things are possible given the level of success they have reaped in other endeavors, and naturally emerging tech being used to make some of these projections possible.. you can see that the world is actually improving in many areas if you seek out the good news stories and statistics and look beyond the watchtower friendly fear porn about terrorism, and potential dangers from culturally diverse nations around the globe.
for instance 2014 had the lowest fatal airline accident rate in history despite the hyping of the ill fated malaysian airlines crashes.
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FayeDunaway
Jonathan, I agree. Denouncing homosexuality is the new racism. The public in 10 years won't tolerate it. But also, we tend to think future changes will occur faster than they actually do...so I would stretch their lifespan longer, make it 20. Unless they change a lot of things and become more mainstream. -
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I'm studying with Jehovah's Witnesses!!
by Kulotti79 inhello all... i currently studying the bible teach book and i'm just curious what information does the study conductor record about the student and is it passed on??
and they keep on saying "the truth" which is starting to get on my nerves.
lol.
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FayeDunaway
I know a lot of very good people who are witnesses, and I'm sure your witnesses are like these people. please do not consider what we have said to be against these specific people. It is the organization policies as a whole we are mostly talking about, and every witness will follow those policies because they are not allowed not to follow them.
Im glad you know what to do now, and I'm glad these people were there for you when you needed it and you being who you are im sure you will be nice to them when you tell them what you need to tell them, and hopefully all the karma will be good :). Take care kulotti, and have a very good life being true to yourself.
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HERE'S A BOMBSHELL ABOUT THE 144,000 DOCTRINE......
by Mary injust when you think you've heard it all............in my research for my project, i was doing some digging around on the subject of the 144,000 and came across something in the wts's literature that absolutely stunned me and, being the generous soul that i am , wanted to pass it on to you to get your thoughts on this.. .
we all know that the society teaches that the 144,000 mentioned in revelation is speaking of "spiritual israel" and not 'fleshly israel' or even other christians in general right?
there are countless quotes throughout the literature that we are all familiar with that specifically state this, but to drive home a point, here are a few:.
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FayeDunaway
When I was reading the bible finally with clear eyes, I was dumbstruck by how simple the little flock/other sheep thing is. The little flock is Israel. The other sheep are non Jews. Doh!! -
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I'm studying with Jehovah's Witnesses!!
by Kulotti79 inhello all... i currently studying the bible teach book and i'm just curious what information does the study conductor record about the student and is it passed on??
and they keep on saying "the truth" which is starting to get on my nerves.
lol.
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FayeDunaway
They may say that no, he doesn't have to stop being gay, he just has to not act on it for his whole life. This will entail never having a relationship with anyone. You will be lonely forever. So go ahead and continue to be drawn to this sect if you are into that sort of thing.