Posts by FayeDunaway

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Jehovahs Witness Shunning & the Crusades

by freemindfade in

while discussing being mistreated by my own jw family last night with my wife, i wanted to try to make her think critically about what shunning really is, and at its root what how beneficial it is.

earlier in the day i sent her non-apostate scholarly article on religious shunning being tantamount to psychological torture.

and most witnesses don't think into much about why they do things, its more of a "this is the way we do it, don't over think it" process.

FayeDunaway

If you said at the door 'my religion won't let me talk to apostates', the witnesses would ask what religion is that? And be very curious how a religion could be so cruel and closed minded. And never even think that they do that themselves. Seriously.

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Who Will Be The Next Member Of The Governing Body To Defect From The Corporation?

by frankiespeakin in

while it may seem unlikely which of the currant governing body members do you feel would be most likely to defect?

i know it is a loaded question.. what about wealthy anthony morris iii?

or mark sanderson or geoffrey jackson?

FayeDunaway

People keep saying 'where would they go?' If one of the GB defected. Who of us here would not house him in our own homes??

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Who Will Be The Next Member Of The Governing Body To Defect From The Corporation?

by frankiespeakin in

while it may seem unlikely which of the currant governing body members do you feel would be most likely to defect?

i know it is a loaded question.. what about wealthy anthony morris iii?

or mark sanderson or geoffrey jackson?

FayeDunaway

I can not believe that all of them agreed on the overlapping generations fiasco. There had to be some dissent there.

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Before knowing TTATT did you really believe in things as...

by roberto avon in

jw
friends

did you really believe in things as ;- the earth is only 6000 years old- the 144.000- 1914, based upon the destructiono of jerusalem- harmagheddon or the end of the world coming soon???

?i married a jw when i was an interested person and studying with the jw's ( not the way they wanted) but i told my wife before marrying her that " most probably " i would never have been a jw.she accepted me as i was and married me.

after that i had interrupted the study for one year, i started all over again with an elder of my wife's cong.

FayeDunaway

Was pretty sure the flood couldn't have drowned literally the whole earth, since species such as kangaroos were only found in Australia, and have been there tens of thousands of years, at least.

Felt that paul was sexist and put his thoughts on women in the bible as his own opinion.

believed the world could get a HECK of a lot worse whenever witnesses said 'the end is so close, the world can't get worse.'

believed in apemen, didn't know how they fit in the grand scheme of things. Thought they might be another species. Believed in carnivorous dinosaurs.

Believed that astronomers would find other planets outside the solar system. Was rebuked by witnesses until it happened.

Was pretty sure evolution was real. Especially sure that micro evolution was real, didn't know why witnesses would never say that.

Thought perhaps sex before marriage isn't such a bad thing now that there is birth control. The whole point was preserving the family arrangement, wasn't it? Making sure babies knew who their fathers were.

Was pretty sure I would never let a child of mine die who needed blood.

was skeptical of the anointed 'knowing' they were anointed. How, exactly??

hell seemed pretty fiery in a few of the passages. Seemed pretty obvious witnesses simply chose not to believe in it. Am currently in a religion that doesn't choose to believe in a fiery hell either, and I'm still not sure, but I like it better this way.

i was sure gay people were born gay and in most cases it was not a choice.

highly doubted witnesses were the only ones going to survive Armageddon. Thought perhaps a third of the world would be destroyed, as it says in revelation.

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Elders Manual

by MisterP in

i just found a copy of the elders handbook on another site, and before i go gun-ho with it at some members of my family, i would like to know whether anyone here can corroborate its authenticity.

i've posted a link to it here.

elders handbook .

FayeDunaway

Millie....EVERYTHING in the org is just for show isn't it. Nothing besides show really matters.

But as shows go, it sure is a boring one!

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Behold the face of indoctrination! My moms guilt tripping letter to me.

by BU2B in

jw
friends

i wish i knew what it was like to have an unconditionally loving mother.

i know she loves me and cares about me, but only within her narrow wt spectrum.

if i do not meet her narrow expectations, i am a failure to her.

FayeDunaway

It's pretty obvious from this thread alone who really are the 'mentally diseased.'

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Will this Memorial be our last?

by pixel in

they just put up the march km 2014 on the private website.

most of it is same-old-same-old, with info here and there about the memorial.. somebody here might post the march km for all to see, i wont.. i just wanted to share the paragraph from page 2 q&a anticle: will you seize the opportunity?

upcoming memorial enables us to show gratitude .

FayeDunaway

Can't leave.... Lol!! 'The clappy talk'

The clappy talk was so cheesy! I hadn't thought of that in a while.

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Will this Memorial be our last?

by pixel in

they just put up the march km 2014 on the private website.

most of it is same-old-same-old, with info here and there about the memorial.. somebody here might post the march km for all to see, i wont.. i just wanted to share the paragraph from page 2 q&a anticle: will you seize the opportunity?

upcoming memorial enables us to show gratitude .

FayeDunaway

I do think there was special implied significance that they put it into their 2014 memorial promo. But it doesn't matter that it's come and gone. They are using different tactics now to keep the faithful reeled in. I'm glad I'm not going to their joke of a communion. And nothing could ever bring me back.

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Behold the face of indoctrination! My moms guilt tripping letter to me.

by BU2B in

jw
friends

i wish i knew what it was like to have an unconditionally loving mother.

i know she loves me and cares about me, but only within her narrow wt spectrum.

if i do not meet her narrow expectations, i am a failure to her.

FayeDunaway

I am just dumbstruck that so many people can think exactly alike. It's like they are robots. Are these really our parents, or are they robots for the org. The org had accomplished quite a feat, they are masters of manipulation. If they are ignorant and hard headed and narrow minded, they do have amazing talents of manipulation. That is where their strength is.

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Are Jehovah's Witnesses ever "good enough", must they remain anxious and fragile for fear they will not be saved by their works?

by Trailer Park Pioneer in

as a jehovah's witness you know you can never do enough without hearing stories of another witness doing twice what your doing and living off half the money your living on because they give all their time and money to the watchtower.

this is totally bunk, reading romans 7:21-24 paul knew his condition was hopeless without the free gift from god.

paul put all his emphasis on jesus christ, not some self-appointed apostles whose proof offered up is over 150 years of failed prophecy!

FayeDunaway

They change the word 'grace' to 'undeserved kindness'....that tells you a lot about their philosophy. A beautiful word is turned into a phrase that just screams 'you are guilty!! You don't deserve anything!! But here we'll throw you a bone of 'kindness' even though it is UNDESERVED!'