Posts by FayeDunaway

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Watchtower now Proudly Promoting the DIVINE Jesus

by FusionTheism in

the revised nwt has a footnote on john 1:1 showing that "a god" means "divine.".

also, their other publications are now much more boldly referring to jesus as divine:.

jesus--the way, the life, the truth (2015), page 306-307:.

FayeDunaway

But that does seem to be a new version of interpreting the Thomas exclamation 'my lord and my God!' Didn't they always used to say he looked at jesus when he said 'my lord' and looked to the heavens as he said 'my God'? I always thought that was as silly as their interpretation of 'you are Peter and upon this rock I will build my congregation.' They would say he pointed to himself as he said 'this rock.' Or the comma they put in 'truly I say to you today you will be with me in paradise.'

I alwaus had doubts about their interpretations, ridiculous insertions and assumptions about certain scriptures, but used to shrug them off one at a time. When you think about them cumulatively it's like good GRAVY why did I let these fools control my life.

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Interview with an Apostate: Muddy Waters

by Muddy Waters in

were you a born in or a convert?.

i began studying with a pioneer sister when i was 20 years old, my life had just gone to total sh*t (my husband had recently left me, was all alone with our young babies, and was very depressed).

"the truth" sounded so wonderful, the jws were so helpful, kind and supportive.

FayeDunaway

I am surprised about these assembly men telling people to change their stories. But then, that's the way many things are in that religion, hurt individual people for the 'greater good.' They didn't care if you were treated as a liar by people who knew you better, as long as you made them look good and were 'encouraging' to the majority of people.

Muddy, you are adorable and I enjoyed reading this. Thanks kairos for bumping it!

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Disfellowshipping Image

by naazira in

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this photo can be found in the april 15 , study edition article titled:.

why disfellowshipping is a loving provision.

just by looking at this image we can see how quickly the barrier between the congregation and former member is put up, after the announcement that this sister is no longer one of jehovah's witneses.

FayeDunaway

Im really not into the 'I see faces in the walls' kind of thing, tho I do think the one in the seat back is kind of strange. BUT, the doors are interesting. What artist would make the doors not match? These types of French doors always should match. One door has three panels of glass across, one has two. This was a stupid mistake. I actually do think this artist is sympathetic to ttatt, for all the reasons mentioned before, and those are pretty distinctive crosses, and the doors don't match, so maybe they were intentional.

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A Hummingbird in My House

by Oubliette in

we just had a hummingbird in our house!

it flew in through an open door.

i had been cleaning my back patio and left the screen open for a few moments when i was putting stuff away.

FayeDunaway

How marvelous that you got to be so close to one of Jehovahs's most miraculous little creations.....

lol j/k j/k j/k!!!!!

Really tho, what a neat experience, and I'm glad it turned out well!!!

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New David Splane Video: No 1900 Year Faithful Slave

by FusionTheism in

governing body member david splane has a new video on tv.jw.org where he talks about all the horrible things committed by martin luther and the protestant reformers.. his conclusion is that there has been no faithful and discreet slave on the earth during the past 1900 years (before 1919 i guess.).

he also says that maybe there were a few anointed on earth, maybe not.. he did add an interesting statement that he doesn't condemn the other churches just for misunderstanding the bible because the society has done that.. another odd point, was that he actually mentioned catholic missionary work in a somewhat positive light, while totally condemning the reformation views on predestination..

FayeDunaway

Luther and Calvin did read too much into those scriptures, and predestination is no longer doctrine for i think almost all Protestants.

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I want serious answers from WT leaders, possible?

by Powermetal4ever in

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what would happen if i would write a physical letter to, for example, the branch office.

and ask questions about scandals like the ngo thing and other stuff?

or ask questions about wtbs economy, or ask for a annual report, which is something i would really like to read.

FayeDunaway

Daniel's right on anonymity.

If you state your name and cong, I think the difference here is what kind of question is asked. If you ask something that is not common knowledge among the r&f but something people generally find out through apostate sites, they will report you to your elders. If you ask something about blood fractions or something, they will probably respond, depending on how the question is asked. They will say also 'why do you not ask your congregation elders?' (Instead of wasting their time)

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Disfellowshipping Image

by naazira in

jw
friends

this photo can be found in the april 15 , study edition article titled:.

why disfellowshipping is a loving provision.

just by looking at this image we can see how quickly the barrier between the congregation and former member is put up, after the announcement that this sister is no longer one of jehovah's witneses.

FayeDunaway

If they weren't so clueless they would have made the disfellowshipped person colorless. That is really the reality of it...the disfellowshipped walk among them as if they are ghosts, apparitions. Nobody looking at them, walking by them as if they are not even there. But no, they make her in color. And not just any color, but one of the most beautiful colors on earth, robins egg blue. Thats why I think whoever painted this must be sympathetic to ttatt.

Some of you mentioned Pleasantville, which probably most people haven't seen. it also reminds me of wizard of oz, where Dorothy leaves bleak, brown and gray Kansas and opens the door to the gorgeous color of OZ, a wonderland to explore.

How could they be so naive? That movie is from the 30's, they're not too old to have seen it :).

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The Case for Theism

by FusionTheism in

"theism" here means "belief in a god" or "the worldview that an intelligent designer created the universe and life.

" ("god" here means a being with a mind who initiated and/or wound-up the universe, and designed life on earth)the most common claim that i see atheists making on twitter, is that "no evidence" exists in support of belief in a god.this post will remove any excuse atheists have for claiming "no evidence exists" in support of an initiator.

atheists can still reject this evidence as "weak," but they cannot truthfully say it does not exist.now, it is true that we do not have "observable, repeatable, falsifiable, empirical, scientific" evidence conclusively proving that an initiator exists, but we do have many lines of philisophical, experiential, and logical evidence.and... here... we... go:1:) many leading scientists, including stephen hawking, say that the space-time-matter universe had a beginning at the singularity/big bang.

FayeDunaway

Thank you, and I'm embarrassed :).

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The Case for Theism

by FusionTheism in

"theism" here means "belief in a god" or "the worldview that an intelligent designer created the universe and life.

" ("god" here means a being with a mind who initiated and/or wound-up the universe, and designed life on earth)the most common claim that i see atheists making on twitter, is that "no evidence" exists in support of belief in a god.this post will remove any excuse atheists have for claiming "no evidence exists" in support of an initiator.

atheists can still reject this evidence as "weak," but they cannot truthfully say it does not exist.now, it is true that we do not have "observable, repeatable, falsifiable, empirical, scientific" evidence conclusively proving that an initiator exists, but we do have many lines of philisophical, experiential, and logical evidence.and... here... we... go:1:) many leading scientists, including stephen hawking, say that the space-time-matter universe had a beginning at the singularity/big bang.

FayeDunaway

Cofty and outlaw, I like you both.

Cofty, incredibly intelligent, but also respectful. Very warm and compassionate. A classy guy. I've grown to like you a lot, even tho I differ from you with the theist/atheist thing.

Outlaw, a very funny, emphatic sharpshooter. Loves satire and wit. Doesn't pull any punches but is not mean.

However, omg! Too much bickering here over agnostic/atheist Dawkins. You're both right, ok?

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This is a topic I am going to kill with my opening post.Why haven`t the Major religions of Christendom exposed J.W.`s as the true Apostates

by smiddy in

i am initially thinking of the major religious institutions of christianity , catholic ,many branches , church of england , and the major protestant religions , too numerous to mention here.. after all their is 40,000 plus christian religions in the world today ?so obviously j.w.`s are not the only false religion .. so my real question is really , to do with the mainstream christian religions , why are`nt they more aggressive in their condemnation of the jehovah witness religion for their obvious failings ,flip backs ,contradictions ,prophecy`s that never eventuated , end of the world predictions ,re-inventing their past history , even distancing themselves from their past history , and their founding members , such as c.t.russell and j.f.rutherford whose policies they now reject... they need to get on board and bleed it for all it`s worth .. smiddy .

FayeDunaway

I've said it before: if witnesses were in charge of the world, it would be a global North Korea.