Posts by FayeDunaway

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The life of every JW youth ever - as told by Disney

by Goldenash in

so i remembered the old hunchback of notre dame movie that came out back in the 90s, and i realized the one of the songs in it perfectly captures the way that the borg-org treats its kids, and how the kids feel trapped inside of it.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxfd7tk8kps.

just substitute the words "deformed" and "ugly" with "imperfect" and "sinful", and it fits perfectly!.

also, i just realized how much quasimodo sounds like the singing cart from that jw broadcast video... make of this what you will... o.o.

FayeDunaway

Yes it's true!!!

it's also very similar to Tangled, where Rapunzel finally leaves her tower and simultaneously is FREAKED OUT that she's being bad and completely delighted about the feel of grass under her toes and the joy of freedom. Seriously even if I was a witness (and I was when I saw it, and wanted out but wasn't there yet) but even if I was like really a witness, I would have gotten that message. Yep Disney sometimes really seems to get it. Check out also the lyrics to Frozen's 'Let it Go.'

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SDA church general conference has voted NO on womens ordination and now there is a big fight

by barry in

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last wednesday the question was put 'can unions ordain women as ministers in the sda church?

the vote was defeated yes 41.35 to no 58.45.. the dutch churches responded quickly saying they won't be changing there policy and will continue to ordain women.. the north american division and the two conferences in california have women pastors that are already ordained.. the sda pastors in china are mostly women.. the internet is running hot with opinions one way or the other.

here is how millennials feel about there church at this point most are studying at an sda university.

FayeDunaway

Religions that don't recognize women for roles of ordination are wasting the talents of half their members or more!

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The new Governing Body is liberal. they are really freeminders!

by rege brazzy in

dear friends, your posts are very good, but we really think that they will change many things soon...for example.

watch tower now are feminist and they protect the gay cause.soon we will have many gay marriages in kingdom halls.you will see.that governing body is really cool.ted jaracz and john barr were the last puritans in the governing body!.

the current governing body is completely liberal, but as yet has some bethelites the old guard working, they are still holding some behaviors .... but very soon you will see ... even in my congregation is very liberal ... not here disassociates for immorality .. just for apostasy ... i fucked three sister, but the elders did not shunned me, but they only help me!

FayeDunaway

You are surely not using a condom....this would show forethought to sin and your gig would be up. What do you plan to do if you impregnate a 'sister'? Grow up. And start showing some respect to women. And stop being such a faker. If you want to get out of the religion, get out. Slowly or quickly, you choose. I'm no witness, but your attitude disgusts me.

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So I clicked on the Mormon come-on advertisement to "Come chat about Jesus Christ"

by oppostate in

so i clicked on the mormon come-on advertisement on the top, the right side and the bottom of the jwd page that invited me to "come chat about jesus christ".. i started a chat with brook and taiza and asked them why the subtitle of the book of mormon changed from "another gospel of jesus christ" to "another testament of jesus christ".. brooke told me it hadn't so i googled it and told them there's plenty of websites that refer to it that way and i had a very old copy with that subtitle on it.. so taiza says it's probably a copy by some break off group and not from them.. i told her the inside said from the "lds".

so they left the chat.. so i figured maybe there's a technical glitch and i shouldn't assume they just dropped me.. so i log on again and give my last name instead of my first name this time.. and hellen and catherine log into the channel.. i ask them again about the title change and they drop off the chat.. so i figured twice is very unlikely that they had a glitch, and i'm pretty sure they dropped me because they didn't like my question.. one more time, i'll give them one more try.. so i log on again, with my middle name this time.. brooke and jayne log on.. i type that i'd been chatting previously with brooke.. she types back that she's a different brooke.. so jayne starts asking if i read the book of mormon.. i say yes and i have a question about it.. so i ask my question about the "another gospel" to 'another testament" change.. she says that she does not recall ever hearing about that and what do i like about the book of mormon.. i then ask her about the "gospel" paul wrote about in corinthians.. she says it's the same as in the book of mormon.. i ask back that if the gospel is the "same" why call it another???

and i quote her galatians 1:8.. she says that it does not apply to the book of mormon since it is not different from the bible so therefore, it is not another good news.. but that is the subtitle of the book isn't it.. so she sends me a link to a two minute video by the lds telling of the finding of the tablets and the transcription from reformed egyptian to english by joseph smith.. i started questioning whether reformed egyptian was a real language.

FayeDunaway

Millie we are often so alike! I am the same exact way.

Mormons like to ask that 'what do you like about us?' question. Some came to my door when I was still a witness. (Disclosure: talking to Mormons isn't easy for me. if I have been prejudiced against anyone, it is Mormons. I think this is based partially on subconscious dislike of my own past religion and sort of wanting to deflect my frustration at something.)

They asked what I like about them and I managed to say I appreciated that they are very family centered. They asked if I had read the Book of Mormon, and I had read some of it. They were all gushing and said 'what did you think???' I said I didn't want to discuss it. I wanted to keep their visit brief and didn't want to get negative on them. I guess as much as I disliked Mormons, I knew what knocking on doors was like so felt sympathetic.

A witness chat line would be funny. I'm pretty sure they would hang up the second someone said something negative.

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Hello Everyone

by MarieK in

i hope everyone is having a good saturday.

i've visited this many times in the past month or so, joined yesterday and finally got the nerve to post!

needless to say, i'm super nervous, being new to this whole experience.

FayeDunaway

Taking the step to post on an apostate site....that is just a huge, huge step! We are so conditioned to think we will be an evil person in God's eyes. Bad, bad, us. Remember: the only ones saying they speak for God are themselves. And this is blasphemy. They are a false prophet. They have no authority and no say whether or not we are 'bad!' They just think they do. Actually you are brave and amazing to think independently and say 'you know what, I think you're wrong.'

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Hello Everyone

by MarieK in

i hope everyone is having a good saturday.

i've visited this many times in the past month or so, joined yesterday and finally got the nerve to post!

needless to say, i'm super nervous, being new to this whole experience.

FayeDunaway

Omg, such good news that your husband is already awake!! I'm so excited for you. And your kids are going to grow up normally, only 1 and 3!!!

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My sister is being harassed by the elders

by opusdei1972 in

sometime ago i wrote here in this forum about the case of my sister, who decided to stop attending the meetings because she realised that the watchtower society is an evil organization.

this happened more than one year ago.

i am not living in the same country of my sister, so i learn about her case when she calls me or when she write me through whatsapp.

FayeDunaway

If they already are calling her for a judicial committee it may be too late. I'm thinking in her situation, just let herself be free of it all. Quickly she will see how they have no real power over her, and she will be completely free to live her own life. She could talk to people she cares about and tell them what is happening to her, so they know it was simple questions they are disfellowshipping her for. This way she would not really be defamed, but they would know she wasn't treated right.

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My sister is being harassed by the elders

by opusdei1972 in

sometime ago i wrote here in this forum about the case of my sister, who decided to stop attending the meetings because she realised that the watchtower society is an evil organization.

this happened more than one year ago.

i am not living in the same country of my sister, so i learn about her case when she calls me or when she write me through whatsapp.

FayeDunaway

Thanks for explaining that, opus. It would be interesting seeing what happens with those 3 kids in her class. The parents would probably request a different teacher. I don't think they would try to get her removed. But you never know! Good she has the support of the principal.

What have the elders got on her? How do they know she's 'apostate'?

And how wonderful your whole family is out!! Not many of us can say that.

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My sister is being harassed by the elders

by opusdei1972 in

sometime ago i wrote here in this forum about the case of my sister, who decided to stop attending the meetings because she realised that the watchtower society is an evil organization.

this happened more than one year ago.

i am not living in the same country of my sister, so i learn about her case when she calls me or when she write me through whatsapp.

FayeDunaway

Opus, what will your sister lose if she is df'd?

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What started me on the path to waking up about the lies the WT teaches?

by oppostate in

it was a simple question: isn't jesus my "mediator" if i put faith in him like the scriptures say?

the research to that answer, from the w79 4/1 p. 31, was mind blowing.

how dare they deny me a belief firmly stated in the scriptures?

FayeDunaway

After the first wake up, all their other bizarre teachings started falling like dominos. It was like the theme song to 'Community.'

i can't count the reasons I should stay

one by one they all just fade away