I grew up feeling guilty whenever I enjoyed a Stevie Nix song because I was told she was a witch and demanded witnesses leave her concerts if they were there.
It's just self important gibberish from our delusional subculture.
a few years ago i heard of a story about two jw's being at a green day concert.
i think that the witnesses were bethelites.
the person that told me that story said that the band was about to play but they couldn't.
I grew up feeling guilty whenever I enjoyed a Stevie Nix song because I was told she was a witch and demanded witnesses leave her concerts if they were there.
It's just self important gibberish from our delusional subculture.
once a month about 15 to 20 elderly jw publishers would meet at the kingdom hall and one elder was assigned to set up the system so they could view jw broadcasting.
these publishers were long time pioneers, former elders, and long time publishers who know nothing about computers or the internet.
they are the last batch of those expecting the generation that saw 1914 or understood it--- to not die off.
back in the early 70s, right before 1975 we had about 7 or 8 thousand professed anointed.
cant remember the exact number.
but at every convention we were told that the end is close ---because---the number of anointed is getting smaller and smaller.
let me preface this by saying that i don't expect anyone here to make my decision for me.
i do however note that like the bible says, in the multitude of counselors there is wisdom, and this is a huge decision, so i wanted to put it out there for discussion.
i really appreciate your words of wisdom, as this affects not just me but my wife also, as we find ourselves in the same boat.
Dubstepped I wrote what I wrote because when I was reading your post I thought 'did I write this??' You sound so much like me. I have a great, frightening memory too. It makes me be very conscientious of everything I do. I've lived my whole life trying to please everyone and be good. All the time. My mistakes in horrifying detail come to haunt me at night and I lay there saying to myself 'stupid! Stupid! Stupid!!' Lol. I wish I didn't have the memory I do! It would be so much easier to just forget. You said some things in your post that really resonated with me. I know how it feels to worry about what witnesses will see, and how anxious this can make you. The grocery cart thing is something I've learned very slowly, and it's subtle but powerful. To free my mind from the fears and replace that with the joy and confidence of freedom.
Regarding Syme's comments above, the more time that goes by that you're not an active witness, the less possibility that some issue needs to be 'handled.' Even if someone sees something and tells an elder, if you haven't been an active witness for years, they will probably ignore it. If you were trying to be an active witness that would be different.
I even go to another church, and I'm sure witnesses have recognized my distinctive car in the parking lot. I have to live my own life. Let them get all upset if they want to, but they have no more control over me than I let them. For me it was a gradual self realization.
it has been a long looong time since i posted on here, but never ceased reading all the posts and keeping up on the changes that have been going on!
but it just seems that now i have a need to get something off my chest, and this is the one place that will most definitely understand the topic at hand.
i have been disfellowshipped for about 8yrs now, and have dealt with the 'consequences' of that decision: all my so-called friends in the org left and i was also abandoned by my own family.
so fisherperson sent me a pm asking a bunch of questions re my time at beth hell.
rather than respond in a pm i will post the q/a here as i have nothing to hide.
q:what years did you serve in brooklyn bethel?
let me preface this by saying that i don't expect anyone here to make my decision for me.
i do however note that like the bible says, in the multitude of counselors there is wisdom, and this is a huge decision, so i wanted to put it out there for discussion.
i really appreciate your words of wisdom, as this affects not just me but my wife also, as we find ourselves in the same boat.
back in the early 70s, right before 1975 we had about 7 or 8 thousand professed anointed.
cant remember the exact number.
but at every convention we were told that the end is close ---because---the number of anointed is getting smaller and smaller.
so fisherperson sent me a pm asking a bunch of questions re my time at beth hell.
rather than respond in a pm i will post the q/a here as i have nothing to hide.
q:what years did you serve in brooklyn bethel?
the monsters inc. hierarchy taught its workforce to use scare tactics to achieve its goals.. it took sully & mikey to reveal that love & laughter was far more effective - and beneficial for everyone concerned!.
interesting concept, but it'll never catch on!
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