Posts by FayeDunaway

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Opinions of GB members

by campaign of hate in

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i would like to give my opinion of each gb member.

i would probably split them into 3 groups.. group 1 - the hardliners.

tony the 3rd: he knows exactly what hes's doing and saying.

I want to personally thank Sam herd for his hardline talk while visiting our circuit assembly years ago, that got me to read the bible instead of listen to him. I chose the book of John. Then fell in love with Christ.

and I had been sooo excited there was finally a black brother on the GB. But was very disappointed he was THAT kind of brother. During his talk, I kept reading about Jesus and salvation and love, and he had equal representation with the father in the Greek scriptures, everywhere I looked. Then I would look up and listen for his name, but it was always Jehovah Jehovah jehovah. I was like, something's wrong here. This doesn't match.

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What to do about wife and elders

by Crazyguy in

it seams like every time i turn around i find out that the elders are trying to meet with one of my kids or are talking with them about things and of course my wife is instigating it.

if i say anything to my children she mentions something and they come running.

one of the ms's is also studying with them as well.

FayeDunaway

Wasanelder, didn't Ray Franz write commentary on the book of James??

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What will JW.org / Watchtower be like in 15 years?

by jw07 in

over the past few days i've been reading and watching bill and melinda gates speak about their plans for a better world by 2030. they bet that due to technology and the compassion of people the world should improve more in the next 15 years than it has in all of history.

specifically lower child mortality rate, eradication of polio and guinea worm among other diseases, improvement of standards of living, greater access to education etc.. i'm a realist, so i'm not looking for miracles, but i believe most of these things are possible given the level of success they have reaped in other endeavors, and naturally emerging tech being used to make some of these projections possible.. you can see that the world is actually improving in many areas if you seek out the good news stories and statistics and look beyond the watchtower friendly fear porn about terrorism, and potential dangers from culturally diverse nations around the globe.

for instance 2014 had the lowest fatal airline accident rate in history despite the hyping of the ill fated malaysian airlines crashes.

FayeDunaway

Jonathan, I agree. Denouncing homosexuality is the new racism. The public in 10 years won't tolerate it. But also, we tend to think future changes will occur faster than they actually do...so I would stretch their lifespan longer, make it 20. Unless they change a lot of things and become more mainstream.

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I'm studying with Jehovah's Witnesses!!

by Kulotti79 in

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hello all... i currently studying the bible teach book and i'm just curious what information does the study conductor record about the student and is it passed on??

and they keep on saying "the truth" which is starting to get on my nerves.

lol.

FayeDunaway

I know a lot of very good people who are witnesses, and I'm sure your witnesses are like these people. please do not consider what we have said to be against these specific people. It is the organization policies as a whole we are mostly talking about, and every witness will follow those policies because they are not allowed not to follow them.

Im glad you know what to do now, and I'm glad these people were there for you when you needed it and you being who you are im sure you will be nice to them when you tell them what you need to tell them, and hopefully all the karma will be good :). Take care kulotti, and have a very good life being true to yourself.

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HERE'S A BOMBSHELL ABOUT THE 144,000 DOCTRINE......

by Mary in

just when you think you've heard it all............in my research for my project, i was doing some digging around on the subject of the 144,000 and came across something in the wts's literature that absolutely stunned me and, being the generous soul that i am , wanted to pass it on to you to get your thoughts on this.. .

we all know that the society teaches that the 144,000 mentioned in revelation is speaking of "spiritual israel" and not 'fleshly israel' or even other christians in general right?

there are countless quotes throughout the literature that we are all familiar with that specifically state this, but to drive home a point, here are a few:.

FayeDunaway

When I was reading the bible finally with clear eyes, I was dumbstruck by how simple the little flock/other sheep thing is. The little flock is Israel. The other sheep are non Jews. Doh!!

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I'm studying with Jehovah's Witnesses!!

by Kulotti79 in

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hello all... i currently studying the bible teach book and i'm just curious what information does the study conductor record about the student and is it passed on??

and they keep on saying "the truth" which is starting to get on my nerves.

lol.

FayeDunaway

They may say that no, he doesn't have to stop being gay, he just has to not act on it for his whole life. This will entail never having a relationship with anyone. You will be lonely forever. So go ahead and continue to be drawn to this sect if you are into that sort of thing.

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I'm studying with Jehovah's Witnesses!!

by Kulotti79 in

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friends

hello all... i currently studying the bible teach book and i'm just curious what information does the study conductor record about the student and is it passed on??

and they keep on saying "the truth" which is starting to get on my nerves.

lol.

FayeDunaway

This entire forum, and a hundred like it, are dedicated to help people trying to recover from experiences such as mentioned above, just by letting people talk about what they've gone through trying to get out of it...and also people come here for support while they are trying to get out of it.

2 things I notice about your questions is that you don't like people knowing all your business, and you don't like cult like mentalities. That's what this particular religion is SO like. I know the person studying with you must be really a nice person. Most of them are really good people. It's just that this religion that controls them can also make them like heartless robot like creatures when the circumstances change.

I grew up witness, and because I decided to change my religion and become just a regular Christian, I lost my family. Not because they wanted to, but the organization tells them that they shouldn't speak to me.

I would be be very nice to this person that has been studying with you, but tell them this is not for you. They will try to gloss over things and make them seem rosy, but believe me, this is real.

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I Feel So Much More Intelligent Now

by OneFingerSalute in

well i must say that after the serve us meeting tonight i feel so much more intelligent.

almost as if i had four years of college condensed into ten minutes.. that is what was spent going on about how to use the glossary in the back of the "wonderful" new revised bible.

we got a crash course on how to look up the words listed alphabetically.

FayeDunaway

Thank you for answering my questions...I hadn't even known about the new bible. Are deep studying and hard liner witnesses digging it? I just want to know if this increases my chances of getting my extended family back or not :-/ I need to get my hands on one of these somehow....

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I have no Real Friends!

by stuckinarut2 in

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i have come to a startling and sad realisation!.

i have no real friends!.

i have always been extremely active in every aspect of the org, since childhood.

FayeDunaway

You need to remember all the friends over the years who have fallen away or gotten df'd...find them in Facebook! This happened to me. Now I don't really have any witness friends, they are all people I grew up with who left along the way...and they are the best friends. We have so much fun together. We meet and have girlfriend days, and it's amazing how much more at peace and less angry and bitter they are now that they have left the org. So hunt them down and you will all be happy to be back together.

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Rev 17:9 - Thoughts?

by leaving_quietly in

rev 17:9 describes something about the "woman", the harlot, babylon the great:.

here is where the intelligence that has wisdom comes in: the seven heads mean seven mountains, where the woman sits on top.

and there are seven kings: five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet arrived, but when he does arrive he must remain a short while.. i was dreaming about this verse last night, so i thought i'd look it up.

FayeDunaway

Londo111, Im right there with you. Jws and cults love talking about the weird stuff. Most Christians talk about what matters.

i spent some time wondering what Babylon the great really meant, and came to the conclusion it meant Rome, but I'm not completely convinced that's right. there have been many theories over the centuries. I've heard America, or Catholicism or Rome, predominately.