Posts by FayeDunaway

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jw.org cart days numbered?

by jookbeard in

reading a report of an elder in a friends cong has been hiding and spying on the pioneers who seem to have a practise of dumping the cart and finding a local coffee shop, i've noticed that they do this in my local high street as well but this week they seemed to be all huddled around the cart, they've clearly been warned, a vast percentage of the time i see they seem to be more interested in fiddling with their mobile phones and gossiping, is just seems these carts are a means for the pioneers to turn in "easy time" i wonder what sort of figures show how much literature is being taken by the public?

i bet its very minimal.

naturally the gb would say they are a phenomenal success , we clearly know they are not.

FayeDunaway

That's true orphan, there's definitely a difference there.

Maybe there was something lacking in his life, he didn't have a father maybe... Needed a patriarch. Or he sorely wants to see a dead loved one on paradise earth. That's the only way I can make sense of it, that he wanted to believe very badly for some reason.

I haven't been out of the religion as long as this forum has been here, KH, but I believe you that we are probably talking about the same issues discussed then. Being torn apart from your family for simply not agreeing with them religiously kind of does that to people. Makes us frustrated at the religion controlling them, makes us want to speculate on when it will be over so that we can have them back. We just want or families back.

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jw.org cart days numbered?

by jookbeard in

reading a report of an elder in a friends cong has been hiding and spying on the pioneers who seem to have a practise of dumping the cart and finding a local coffee shop, i've noticed that they do this in my local high street as well but this week they seemed to be all huddled around the cart, they've clearly been warned, a vast percentage of the time i see they seem to be more interested in fiddling with their mobile phones and gossiping, is just seems these carts are a means for the pioneers to turn in "easy time" i wonder what sort of figures show how much literature is being taken by the public?

i bet its very minimal.

naturally the gb would say they are a phenomenal success , we clearly know they are not.

FayeDunaway

Let's not bother him too much. We were all where he is right now at one time. If he wants to chime in occasionally that's ok with me.

But kh, your avatar seems dying to get out of his cramped house. Seems like a good analogy to what it's like to be stuck in that religion. I think of it every time I see it. Trapped, cramped, stuck, oppressed. Yup, that's what it felt like. It's good to be out and to fall in love with God on my own and also worship in a community in freedom. Maybe you will find that someday I hope. You are maybe unhappy right now and someday you could be happy and free.

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How many were baptized in your area, last assembly?

by brandnew in

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friends

how many were baptized in your area, last assembly?.

santa paula, ca..........17..

FayeDunaway

There should definitely be a back up talk now for when there's no baptismal candidates. Could be a talk about staying away from apostate sites for example.

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jw.org cart days numbered?

by jookbeard in

reading a report of an elder in a friends cong has been hiding and spying on the pioneers who seem to have a practise of dumping the cart and finding a local coffee shop, i've noticed that they do this in my local high street as well but this week they seemed to be all huddled around the cart, they've clearly been warned, a vast percentage of the time i see they seem to be more interested in fiddling with their mobile phones and gossiping, is just seems these carts are a means for the pioneers to turn in "easy time" i wonder what sort of figures show how much literature is being taken by the public?

i bet its very minimal.

naturally the gb would say they are a phenomenal success , we clearly know they are not.

FayeDunaway

Inside the KH, I wonder why you come here. I'm very curious. Is it to represent the viewpoints of a true witness? Defend the Truth? You are never confrontational like some other witnesses that come here. Do you come here to see what 'the other side' is saying? You never say anything negative against the society, do you not feel anything negative, or can you just not bring yourself to say anything negative. Why do you go against the policy of not going on apostate sites?

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TMZ - Michelle Rodriguez Was A Jehovah’s Witness?

by thedepressedsoul in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2stsn0u8lji.

i got a good laugh!

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FayeDunaway

What's with the lady who said they being treats?? What??

And you gotta love michelle Rodriguez now! At 13 she recognized the elitism!!

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Behold the face of indoctrination! My moms guilt tripping letter to me.

by BU2B in

jw
friends

i wish i knew what it was like to have an unconditionally loving mother.

i know she loves me and cares about me, but only within her narrow wt spectrum.

if i do not meet her narrow expectations, i am a failure to her.

FayeDunaway

Respectful observer, you obviously love your mother unconditionally!!

If only more of our parents would say about us what you say about your mother. 'I know they will never change. This is who they are and they are happy, so I'm not going to criticize them. It's their choice, they are adults. I just love them for who they are.'

sigh.

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Before knowing TTATT did you really believe in things as...

by roberto avon in

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friends

did you really believe in things as ;- the earth is only 6000 years old- the 144.000- 1914, based upon the destructiono of jerusalem- harmagheddon or the end of the world coming soon???

?i married a jw when i was an interested person and studying with the jw's ( not the way they wanted) but i told my wife before marrying her that " most probably " i would never have been a jw.she accepted me as i was and married me.

after that i had interrupted the study for one year, i started all over again with an elder of my wife's cong.

FayeDunaway

Sloppyjoe....yeah, when they changed the interpretation of 'generation' it was SO obvious that they had to because time ran out and they couldn't possibly sustain that anymore. But they didn't even admit that at the time. They called it new light.

I feel so stupid for ever feeling hopeful it would come in the 80's as promised. Maybe I was sympathizing with the 10 year old kid in the wheelchair who REALLY wanted the paradise to come so he could walk...I wanted it to come for him.

it all seems like such a fairytale now. To be outside looking in, how can such otherwise intelligent people believe it. I guess because their friends do. And their friends believe it because THEY do.

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Jehovahs Witness Shunning & the Crusades

by freemindfade in

while discussing being mistreated by my own jw family last night with my wife, i wanted to try to make her think critically about what shunning really is, and at its root what how beneficial it is.

earlier in the day i sent her non-apostate scholarly article on religious shunning being tantamount to psychological torture.

and most witnesses don't think into much about why they do things, its more of a "this is the way we do it, don't over think it" process.

FayeDunaway

If you said at the door 'my religion won't let me talk to apostates', the witnesses would ask what religion is that? And be very curious how a religion could be so cruel and closed minded. And never even think that they do that themselves. Seriously.

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Who Will Be The Next Member Of The Governing Body To Defect From The Corporation?

by frankiespeakin in

while it may seem unlikely which of the currant governing body members do you feel would be most likely to defect?

i know it is a loaded question.. what about wealthy anthony morris iii?

or mark sanderson or geoffrey jackson?

FayeDunaway

People keep saying 'where would they go?' If one of the GB defected. Who of us here would not house him in our own homes??

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Who Will Be The Next Member Of The Governing Body To Defect From The Corporation?

by frankiespeakin in

while it may seem unlikely which of the currant governing body members do you feel would be most likely to defect?

i know it is a loaded question.. what about wealthy anthony morris iii?

or mark sanderson or geoffrey jackson?

FayeDunaway

I can not believe that all of them agreed on the overlapping generations fiasco. There had to be some dissent there.