the link below is to a template for requesting computer stored or written data under the data protection act.. http://www.mtcp.co.uk/documents/written.doc.
the link below is to a template for requesting video data under the data protection act.. http://www.mtcp.co.uk/documents/onfilm.doc.
the rights you have under the act are: .
Welcome Normal
Thanks for the info. It will be very useful for many - We wrote to the London Bethel to request details under the Data Protection Act a couple of years ago. They charged us both the full wack of £10 each and then said they were not holding any info !!
Twinkletoes
was there a comment made at a meeting that finally convinced you, this is not right?
for me a couple of weeks ago was in the service meeting, they stated that if the children didnt finish their homework because they were studying the bible or at a meeting that teachers should understand that their meetings and study are more important.
i looked at my wife and went "what"??
So many things I could write about, after being in for over 30 years. But the following really summed up the "love" in my last congregation-
The main Hall used for meetings was up a flight of stairs, therefore, disabled ones could not join with the cong. as there was no means of getting them upstairs, (although the promise had been made to sort out this problem, when they first required a show of hands for the purchase of the Hall.)
One day the congregation was asked to vote to purchase new chairs to replace the current chairs (nothing wrong with the current chairs) and many voted in favour of spending lots of money on more comfort for themselves and yet having no concern for the disabled who had to sit in the downstairs foyer, watching the meetings on a black and white tv, and it was pretty cold too, with ones going in and out to the toilets etc. and of course many (mostly elders) standing around talking (during the meeting)
What a lack of christian love !!!!
twinkletoes
hi everyone, glad to be here.
i've been to and posted at a couple of other ex-jw sites.
thought i'd drop a line to you guys.
A big welcome to you Boy at the crossroads !
You will find lots of help here on this forum. We certainly did, we disassociated ourselves about 18 months ago, after finding out firstly -the involvement of the Watchtower with the United Nations, and then reading Ray Franz's book Crisis of Conscience, as soon as it dawned on us that the Governing Body were not God's channel of communication, then the slow de-programming started, we ask ourselves everday, how could we have been so brainwashed......
So good to see yet more and more coming out of the WT
Twinkletoes and Kaytee
i remeber hearing a couple of years back that if an organistion has any information held on you and you request to view it they have to show it to you.
has any one asked to see the information held on their dfing ?
also has any one asked for the infomation to be destroyed, which, i think the org would have to do as well.
Hello Rick,
21st Aug 2002, we wrote to the London Bethell to request the following:
Please can you forward all copies of personal information pertaining to us, that are being held
on your database.
The copies should be sent to our home address as stated above.
We enclose a stamped addressed envelope for your use.
23rd Aug 2002 - we received the following reply -
...The Act empowers recipients of such enquiries to levy a charge for processing the enquiry
and the Trustees of this charity have decided to levy a charge of £10 per person, as provided for in
section 7(2)(b) of the legislation.
In addition, we have a duty to satisfy ourselves as to the identity of each data subject before
disclosure of the data ........please therefore provide
1 a cheque or postal order payable to Watch Tower Society Britain, for the required fee.
2 Proof of your identity
9th Sept 2002 - We received a reply -
We confirm that we have carefully reviewed our files and we have no personal data disclosable
under the Data Protection Act 1998 that we can identify as relating to you. If you wish to provide any
supplementary information ...eg. previous town in which you lived or a congregation of
Jehovah's Witnesses with which you associated, we shall make a further search of the files.
At that point we gave up, lost £20.00 and got no reply showing any data !!!
Twinkletoes and Kaytee
just this afternoon cnn started running this news clip at the bottom of their screen.
does anyone know what it's about?
are there abuse/molestation cases against the wtbts in russia?
This is interesting, we have just seen it on a newsclip, I think it was Fox news. It also mentioned that the Canadian lawyers are going to appeal the decision. It didn't take the Russian authorities to find out just how they break up families did it! I hope that some-one has a little more info on this subject.
Twinkletoes
i know that many ex-jws have joined various christian denominations or have become non-denominational christians.
do any of you now believe in the hellfire hell of eternal physical torment?
if not, do you now have some other view of hell that differs from the jw view of it?
I've just been reading a book tonight, it touches on hellfire, but I find it too hard to accept that if God is Love, he would be able to torture people for ever....... It doesn't make sense.
I suppose I still believe in ...the dead are conscious of nothing at all.
Twinkletoes
excuse me if i ramble...this is hard.
i have even avoided threads in the past where others have had to go thru this because i didn't want to face it.
guess i'm a wuss.
We are so sorry to hear, but as others have said, your dad and mum are an inspiration to us all. So many years and yet they had the principles to get out of the cult.
Twinkletoes and Kaytee
bethel automatic phone answering system.. .
phone rings .
computer answers .
VERY FUNNY :)
please feel free to scroll down to scully's post to see a copy of the letter for you to copy and paste and use click here or please re-look at the first post of this thread for those interested:.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/17/68071/1.ashx.
please note this above noted link will be up and running shortly by at least 9:15 est march 12, 2004. there was a problem with the msword file last night and to protect people, things had to be adjust and of course i was not around.
thanks Hawk and Scully
bttt
Twink
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you would just get comfortable and they would tear them apart, the pricks.
and give you like one meeting's notice too boot.
This change of format used to always puzzle me, causing great problems with Bros. and Sisters, zigzagging all over the city.
Why oh why did they not consult with the bros and sisters to ask them where would like to go.
Thus cutting out all the aggravation that this ridiculous change of policy brought about.
Power as usual had gone to their heads - and assuming that it is still the same today.
Kaytee
