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  What has hurt you the most for being a JW?

  by MsMcDucket in

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  or what do you regret most about being a jw?.

  for me it's being alienated by my twin daughters.

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  One of the most hurtful, was when I first started studying with the JWs, I believed them about the sacredness of Blood. I was pregnant with my second child and knew that I would have problems with Blood (I'm rhesus negative, my first son is rhesus positive - this then creates the problem of jaundice in the second baby) My second child was born and was very ill (jaundiced because of incompatibility of blood) I refused a blood transfusion for him, but (thankfully) his father (not a JW) over-rode my decision. A transfusion was given to him. But even though thirty years have gone by, my son still cannot really understand how I could have been prepared to allow him to die. I was so brain-washed, and its so hard to try to make up for this stupidity, although my son doesn't hold this against me now. He knows just how much I really love him.

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  Some reasons shunning is so very effective...

  by Sabine in

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  i feel so sad about our friend ary, and my prominant memory of him is the sad look in his eyes when he spoke of his daughters.

  he was aware of how we lost our daughter, and he even felt bad complaining because at least his daughters were alive.

  i told him not to feel that way, that at least we could find a measure of closure, but he was on a constant roller coaster ride.

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  Thank you for sharing with us Sabine, Your situation is so very sad. It appears that many people commit suicide due to the shunning/disfellowshipping policy. The JWs have a lot to answer for - their teachings are far from Christ like, I would go so far as to say that they are evil.

  I'm glad that this forum has helped a little.

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  My first post

  by not in not out in

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  i have been lurking on and off for a year or so now so i would like to make a brief introduction.

  1954 born .

  1962 cuban missile crisis .

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  Welcome N.I.N.O., look forward to hearing more from you

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  Did You Help Anyone To Get Baptized?

  by minimus in

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  i did.

  many, actually.

  and i regret that they're (many) still active witnesses.

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  Yes a few. One was a friend that I also worked with - she shuns me now.

  And unfortunately my own brother and his wife. They are still in the JWs, although I have given them all the evidence about the UN Scandal and other lies. It's so frustrating, it seems that it is almost impossible to get through to people, it seems that they have to discover these things for themselves.

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  Saved by grace or by works?

  by rootofallevil in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  according to the wts if we do not produce acts of good work (feild service, attending 5 meetings weekly, circuit and district assemblies etc), we are not worthy of salvation.

  according to the bible, we attain salvation through god's undeserved grace ( or kindness in jw lingo).

  what i am looking for is scriptural proof that will shoot down the first and support the latter.

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  I often think of these words taken from Micah 6 v 8 (NWT)

  "And what is Jehovah asking back from you, but to exercise justice, and to love kindness and to be modest in walking with your God"

  Not a lot to ask of us.

  welcome to the board

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  Some fatherly advice about cults

  by DannyHaszard in

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  sparsely, sage and timely

  by david v. mitchell

  idyllic west marin in the past 30 years has unfortunately had far too much to do with three cults.

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  If only I had been warned years ago about cults. But then perhaps I still wouldn't have believed that the JWs were a cult. I used to wonder how people could be so gullible, not realising I was so deeply involved with one of the worse cults around.

  BTTT

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  My two week consulting trip to Bethel (the beginning of the end) part 2

  by seven006 in

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  as we entered a door of the administration building we did not head to the elevator to take us up the eight floors to the main administration floor.

  i looked around the room and asked, "what's up with her?

  i was going to work with the elder from hell who ran the photography department.

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  Raymond Franz

  by KW13 in

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  raymond franz was a member of the governing body and was a jw for many years till he left.. he wrote a book which provides a great insight into jw's but what is really good about it is he isn't bitter when he comes across and so far i am really enjoying the read.. also in there are copies of letters sent from him to the society or the other way around and i recommend anyone who can find it should read it!.

  http://www.watchtowerinformationservice.org/cocbr.htm.

  i am only just into it and i am hooked.

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  As you can tell from all of the comments, Ray Franz is so highly respected - in fact after reading his books Crisis of Conscience and In Search Of Christian Freedom, we were moved to thank him for helping us escape from the clutches of the JWs (after 32 years in) within a week he had written back to us, such a loving and encouraging letter. We thought it was so thoughtful of him, even though he is in his eighties (I think) and has not been too well in the last few years, he actually took the time to write a letter to us. What a stark contrast to the London Bethel, we wrote to them asking them to help us understand things such as the UN involvement etc. well that was over 3 years ago and we are still waiting for an acknowledgement.

  Welcome to the board to all the Newbies, it's just great to see so many new ones coming out of the JWs

  Dansk - Good to see you - hope you are well

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  UK & IRELAND MAP

  by ballistic in

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  i had an idea that i could build a uk map of everyones location which would show you instantly who is in your area from jwd.. (it might be an idea to do a seperate us one aswell but i'll wait and see if this one takes off first, or if anyone from the us wants to volunteer to do that one).

  (and australia but you are all in the same backyard anyway - literally!!!).

  anyway, all you have to do is post or email me your username and town and i will draw you on the map above which will change gradually to include everyone!.

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  Thanks for adding Kaytee in Herefordshire, but you have missed me (twinkletoes - his better half ! ) As we appear to be the only ones in Herefordshire there should be room for little ole me

  thanks

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  Suggestions Please

  by nonjwalltheway in

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  my wife and i have been married for over 10 years and we have three sons.

  she grew up in a jw family.

  he sisters, brother, mother, aunts, uncles and other extended family are mostly jw.

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  twinkletoes

  Keep in mind the way this cult works. They will quote scriptures in order to control ones. One scripture they often use is ...A man's (or woman's) enemies will be persons of his own household.... this is often directed at the "unbelieving mate". So the more that you try to stop your wife going to meetings, the more you will be fulfilling the scripture i.e. according to the Watchtower teachings.

  You may have more success with the advice given by seven006.

  I hope that things work out well for you both and that your wife will eventually see the religion for what is really is - a mind-controlling evil cult.

  After being a witness for over 32 years I am able to speak from experience and strength, I only wish I had seen them for what they really are.

  Twinkletoes