This site is just great THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH
Twinkletoes and Kaytee
i realize that threads like this have been done before, but i don't think that it hurts to do one again.. i personally appreciate this website so much.
it has been an absolute treasure-trove of information, research material, emotional support, and simple enjoyment.
and, it's free of charge!
This site is just great THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH
Twinkletoes and Kaytee
during my days as a witness, which was only about 10 years ending circa 1981, most of my memories revolve around how totally exhausted i always felt.
toward the last, i was dragging my family out to the five meetings a week and working fulltime and getting my quota of publisher hours on the little sheet every month, even doing the temporary pioneering bit now and again.
when i had the ministry school, i even worked a four day week to be able to give every talk on the program in case someone did not show up, which frequently happened in our little congregation west of fort worth, tx.
Welcome Woodmonkey
So good to hear from you - you will find on this forum, lots of people with the similar thoughts and views as yours. I often wonder how we (Kaytee and our children) managed to fit in all of the meetings, studying, field service etc. I used to be so relieved when it was raining and we were unable to go out in field service on a saturday morning. At last some time to catch up with normal everyday jobs such as housework and laundry ! - and of course there would always be the usual comments at meetings about not keeping your house clean - you really needed a 60 hour day to keep up with everything
Look forward to hearing more from you
Twinkletoes
hi every one i am not sure if i am posting in the right place or not but just wanted to say a quick hello.
i am a disfellowshiped (ex brother of 27 years), they did this to me nearly eight years ago after forming a commitee with two lying elders (one decent) who didn'nt like my father who was the presiding overseer at the time and stand in circut overseer.
i was married for six years at the age of 19 and when i decided to have a break from her it all hit the fan and the lies started about me.
Hi Pat, welcome to the board, you will find lots of helpful advice here, and people who you can really share your problems with. I'm so sorry to hear what you are going through at present. As others have said, you don't have to "shun" them, so go ahead either write to your Dad or if possible just turn up at the house to see him. If they are shunning you now it can't get any worse if they turn you away, but hopefully you will be able to see your dad.
Keep in touch
Twinkletoes
ok, i have thought about it too long and hard and came to the conclusion that this really is something that i want to do!
i don't know exactly how to write my letter to dis-associate myself and exactly who i should send it too.
i was readding somethings before that had talked about people sending a copy to there old friends to let them know as well.
Hello Suzie,
Just read your post re: disassocation letter. We (husband and I) sent out letters to friends and family a couple of days before sending our letter to the Elders. We thought that it would give our friends a chance to read it before they were officially warned not to, by the elders. We had been friends with many of them for over 20 years, but not one of them phoned or got in touch with us. That was over 4 years ago but they still shun us as apostates. The reasons that we disassociated were UN hypocrisy, failed prophecies, paedophiles issues etc. The London Bethell nor the local elders would not answer our questions, they seemed to find it a lot easier just to disfellowship us.
It took many hours to get our info together (with the help of many on this forum) and many more hours to type the letter. And although they all chose not to answer, it was helpful for us to do the letter and to keep it in a file with lots of other info on the JWs. Just in case we ever get the chance to show it to some-one!
If you want to take a look at our letter - this is the link
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/52176/1.ashx
Well done on your decision to leave, it's not an easy thing to do.
Twink
i was reading about minimus' trip to the hospital and his telling them that he "used to be a jw" but he would take blood now if needed.. it got me to thinking; i don't like telling people that i used to be a jw.
that's in my past and i prefer to keep it there.
if asked about my upbringing or religious preference, i usually just comment on being brought up in a strict religion but i got over it..and then try to change the subject.
Yes and I love to tell people about the hypocrisy with the UN, issues with paedophiles etc. Only today I was talking with a neighbour and I admitted that I had been brainwashed for over 30 years. and that we are now shunned by so called friends of 30 years. She then went on to tell me that her two aunties were JWs and they had split the family.and discouraged their own children to mix with others in the family. I told her to remember what I said about them being involved in the UN, just in case they call on her one day.
Twink
so after over 4 yrs i finally read the book...i had a lot of my suspicions confirmed especially with all the doctrinal matters such as 1914, this generation, alternative service, etc.
the fact that the gb actually considered all of these things and almost voted for change on some of them but ultimately did not because of not having 2/3 majority is disgusting!
the malawi/mexico hypocrisy is appalling to say the least.
It's a wonderful book, we bought it a couple of years ago and also bought In search of Christian Freedom, At first I thought that I would be struck down with lightning for reading it, but very soon came to realise that what is being said by Ray is so believable because it can be seen in our own congregations. What an eye-opener ! It certainly helped us to make that all important decision to leave the cult - after over thirty years.
As you said - many thanks for Ray Franz, he has helped so many to see the true light
Twink
june 8, 2006. .
dear .
there are many things that i could say....many true accounts that i could attest to of unjust acts done to people and inexcusable sufferings caused by many in the congregations of jehovah's witness to others, at times by myself as well sadly, but there is nothing anyone can do now to make up for the wrongs that have been done to those that have been hurt....leave it in jehovah's hands that is what i have been told by those in charge., this has always been the answer....so i will do just that knowing that he will repay those who have treated others so badly and that continue to do so.
Arwen
I've just read your letter and copied it to print out for my husband and some friends who also came out of the Org. when we did. It's a brilliant letter but I am so sad for you, It must have been sheer hell to have your children snatched away. I hope that you are back in touch with them now, and hopefully, they have come out of the Org. too. The paedophile stuff is sickening isn't it. Have you read the latest topic Re: Barbara Anderson v WT? I just wish that the governments/authorities would crack down on the Witnesses for shielding paedophiles.
Twink
i wrote a letter to some personal friends in the congregation and enclosed the letter from the un.
i also wrote a short disassociation letter to four elders and enclosed the un letter as well.
i delivered them to the mailboxes and also mailed a couple.
Well done Arwen, its not an easy thing to do. I hope that everything goes well for you. We did exactly the same thing with the UN letter and our own letter - sent them to about 17 "Friends"and then to the elders. THe so called friends now shun us and a letter came back (eventually) from the elders - signed by three elders! so we assumed it was a disfellowshipping letter, but after-all of that it was still worth doing and at least we can now see how cultish the JWs all are.
Twink
i wrote a letter to some personal friends in the congregation and enclosed the letter from the un.
i also wrote a short disassociation letter to four elders and enclosed the un letter as well.
i delivered them to the mailboxes and also mailed a couple.
Well done Arwen
hi, friends ---.
just a note to let you know ian has had a setback.
there is a problem with his kidneys and he had to have a catheter inserted.
((((((( Ian, Claire and family))))))
So sorry to hear of the setback. Please keep on fighting.
Lots of love from Ken & Pauline (Hereford)