has the new watchtower arrangement been announced in the united kingdom yet?.
just wondering if my family are up with the 'new light' yet!.
Gill
I think I must have missed out on this news. We don't have any spies in the camp and therefore don't get any info about the JWs anymore. Am I correct in reading that they are printing two sorts of WTs, one for the rank and file and the other to be placed on the "doors".
This is really "cultish" !
Twinkletoes
i have been lurking for quite some time now on jwd.
my story is pretty much just like everyone else's, "only the names have been changed".
in reading your posts, i have both laughed and cried till tears ran down my cheeks.
A BIG WELCOME {{{Journey on}}} Excellent post. Please stay around, you certainly have a gift for writing, it could be so helpful to many of us here.
I hope you will send the letter to your sister, you never know what the outcome will be, perhaps it will make her think deeply about everything.
Look forward to hearing more from you
Twinkletoes
several years ago when i first started looking at tinternet i was still reticent to look at anything that may be taken as 'apostate'.
so typing in 'jehovahs witnesses' was not for me just yet.
however one little belief of theirs had always troubled me.
I'm sure that the majority of us, typed our first search into an "apostate" site and waited for the bolt of lightening to flash through the window and strike us dead !!
Our son was the one who typed in UN/Watchtower and after one whole year of researching all of the hypocrisies, reading books, especially Ray Franz's books, and reading comments on this site, we came to realise that we had been stupid and gullible for over 30 years. What a waste of precious years!
We used to defend the Organisation when people implied that we were a cult, now we are out of "the box" its all so clear to us.
If only we had had the internet 30 years ago
Our thanks go to Simon for getting this site up and running.
Twinkletoe
what do you think of ray(mond) franz?
i have seen here some people critisise him as not being a really heartfelt opponent of the wts, but my view is that he was quite honest about his expressed motives against the cult.
with his revelations he gave a lot of momentum to the ex jw movement (the apostate organisation according to the jws) and offered valuable assistance to those seeking to shake off the ideological and social dependance on the oppressive cult.
We (myself and Kaytee) feel that we can never thank Ray enough for all that he has done for us. Without his information about what really was going on with the Governing Body, we just wouldn't have had a clue.
Although the first thing to make me really think was the WT/UN involvement, after that, I purchased Ray's books CoC and ISoCF. and everything fell into place from then onwards. The fear of going against the Organisation and the Faithful and Discreet Slave no longer existed and Christian Freedom took its place.
Twinkletoes
i let them in - and after they installed my new phone service [yes they were with the cable company], we had a nice discussion about our mutual faith [practiced in three distinct manners].. the installer first looked at my desk, and saw a copy of the kit [i was just listening to a mp3 audio that debunks it totally] , a copy of steve hassan's 'combatting cult mind control' [a recent gift from another poster here on jwd], a copy of reverand lingle's book 'approaching jehovah's witnesses in love', and a copy of 'church history in plain language'.
a glance at my bookselves revealed a dozen bible translations, and dozens of apostate volumes [coc, isocf,gtr, etc].
so he knew right off that i must be religious.. we had a nice conversation after they were done.
.. and the truth will set you free
Isn't it good that once you are out of the cult, you view other people totally differently - they are not the evil ones that we were led to believe. It seems that we are at last free to be ourselves, without worrying about what others (JWs) might think of us.
Since coming out of the Org. we have found that there are lots of really nice "worldly people", with very good principles and they do not condemn us for having been JWs.
Twinkletoes
i'm a newbie on here.
been away from the truth for nearly a year now and have just got my divorce from my violent ex who is stil serving in the congregation.
found things hard and still am, as the 'truth' is all i've ever known....so am on here for some well needed support, if thats ok?
A Very Big WELCOME to you {{{KCM}}} and all the {{{other newbies}}} on this thread. It's just great to have you all here with us. It always makes us rejoice (me and hubby) when we see so many coming out of the Organisation (aka Borg)
You will find lots of help here, we did, although at first we felt guilty about looking at an "Apostate" site.
What made you make the move to get out of the JWs? For many, including ourselves, it was finding out about the hypocrisy of the WT being affiliated (secretly for 10 years) with the United Nations.
We look forward to hearing more from you, when you are ready.
love from Twinkletoes & Kaytee (hubby)
hello in there ;-p. wow wow wow.... i never knew such a place existed.... unfortunatly i don't have a lot of time to type right now & believe me i'd need days, perhaps even weeks & i'd probably still feel like i wasn't done.... in short... my name is jodie, i'm from australia, i'm about to turn 32 & i am a jehovah's witness outkast... i wasn't kicked out, i left of my own accord when my parents divorced & i was about 14... my father, my younger brother & me - the 3 black sheep !!
my father was disfellowshipped, he was an elder who also happened to have bi polar... the day ( or technically night ) my father was disfellowshipped was the saddest time of my life - it was more like a death or a funeral, something tragic... when my parents divorced i went to live with dad, i was always closer to my father plus when he left he had nothing... he lived on the river bank in the middle of winter for 6 weeks in a tent ( while his good christian jehovah's witness father & sister slept warm in their beds in the same town... ) dad bought a little caravan & he & i lived in it, eventually he bought some land & built a house & my younger brother joined us.... anyway to cut it all short... i've suffered badly from depression - so badly it's almost killed me & my brother also... the crux of our depression is our mother, our sister's, our grandfather, our aunt's & all of our relatives are jehovah's witnesses - most of them live in the same town as us altho they may as well live on the other side of the world.... you know, sitting here thinking about it all - it all makes perfect sense... how can families be torn apart like this, how do they not realise it is wrong & sad & wicked ??.
i've spent more than half my life trying to have any sort of relationship with the rest of my family.... anyway i have to get going.... hasta la vista .
{{{{{ Welcome to you, Jodie }}}
It's so good to have you join us. We're so sorry to hear what you, your brother and dad have been going through. It's tragic what this so called religion (they're a evil high control cult) has done to so many families. I's amazing how this cult can turn normal decent people into unloving, cold and sometimes hateful people!
Forgive my ignorance ! but are you male or female, I'm assuming that Jodie is the female spelling of the name??
As Kaytee has already said, we were in the Org for over 30 years and are now OAPs, at least you still have some good years ahead of you (and your brother too) don't let them (JWs) get you down. They're not worth the effort. The ones that are losing out are the rest of your family, who are shunning you.
Stay around here, you will get lots of help and it's fun too. There's some very interesting and sometimes very amusing people here.
We really look forward to hearing from you again, when you have some more time.
Please say hello to your Dad and brother too, perhaps they could join us on this forum one day.
Twinkletoes
dear new ones,.
sometimes you post your first post in the middle of a thread, and you slip by without being properly "welcomed"!
so we want to welcome you and thank you all for stepping forward, for sharing your comments and your stories.
A VERY BIG WELCOME TO ALL OF THE NEW ONES JOINING US
IT'S GREAT TO HAVE YOU WITH US
twinkletoes & kaytee (hubby)
i just hung up the phone with my golf buddy.
his last words were "bye-bye".
mine too.
My hubby always says "OK, see ya when I see ya" - Is this what they call a tautology?
Bye bye - (God be with you, God be with you) put in full, looks like something a vicar would say!
Twinkletoes - of the "got to go, I'm burning the dinner" class
Welcome Paul, we look forward to hearing more from you.
The Apostacurry in Manchester was great, but a lot of work was done by Dansk, to get it all organised.
Keep watching on this board for any future events. Perhaps the apostanoodle in Birmingham.
Twinkletoes and Kaytee (hubby)
