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ExBethelitenowPIMA
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Physically in mentally agnostic ie sitting on the fence
by ExBethelitenowPIMA inhi everyone i’m not pimi or pimo i’m pima.. i don’t think the gb have everything right but i’m sitting on the fence that maybe they do some things.. if the great trib starts i will jump that side of the fence.. this is a definite little sneaky advantage dodging but even by their own doctrine last min some could come in.. i suspect many are like me.. i spent years in bethel and am very disappointed and disillusioned by it all.. but at the end of the day i love the bible and think it is the word of god and i don’t see any other religion that comes as close to what jesus describes his true followers or who are fulfilling mat 24:14..
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Is there really any universal issue of Sovereignty?
by Linda14 ini can agree that satan doesn't see god as a good ruler as stated at gen 3:1-5. he doesn't seem to see gods laws as right or good.
but whether there is an understanding/agreement between god and satan afterward to the effect that he can take the mantle of rulership to show whether his style is best is doubtful.
that conclusion is probably reached because god hasn't destroyed satan, and he is also called the ruler of the world in the bible.
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ExBethelitenowPIMA
If you are an evolutionist then fair enough you don’t have to come up with any reasons for suffering it’s all random and there is no purpose to anything
If you believe the origin was intelligent design and you don’t believe the Bibles explanation of the issue of universal sovereignty then what is the reason there is so much suffering?
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Physically in mentally agnostic ie sitting on the fence
by ExBethelitenowPIMA inhi everyone i’m not pimi or pimo i’m pima.. i don’t think the gb have everything right but i’m sitting on the fence that maybe they do some things.. if the great trib starts i will jump that side of the fence.. this is a definite little sneaky advantage dodging but even by their own doctrine last min some could come in.. i suspect many are like me.. i spent years in bethel and am very disappointed and disillusioned by it all.. but at the end of the day i love the bible and think it is the word of god and i don’t see any other religion that comes as close to what jesus describes his true followers or who are fulfilling mat 24:14..
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ExBethelitenowPIMA
I haven’t read any books on biological evolution
but I do read a lot of books on many subjects and I think you shouldn’t need to have long complicated books if it could be proven then we evolved then it would be easy to prove through the fossil records
but it no the fossil record shows no evolutionary changes at all
ancient fossils are no change from same creatures today
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Mass Shooting at Kingdom Hall in Hamburg, Germany
by EdenOne inmass shooting at a kingdom hall in hamburg, germany this evening.
at least 6 or 7 killed, dozens injured.
single shooter on the run, police doesn't rule out more shooters.
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ExBethelitenowPIMA
If he was just disfellowshiped at last nights midweek meeting then those elders certainly don’t feel they made the wrong call
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Physically in mentally agnostic ie sitting on the fence
by ExBethelitenowPIMA inhi everyone i’m not pimi or pimo i’m pima.. i don’t think the gb have everything right but i’m sitting on the fence that maybe they do some things.. if the great trib starts i will jump that side of the fence.. this is a definite little sneaky advantage dodging but even by their own doctrine last min some could come in.. i suspect many are like me.. i spent years in bethel and am very disappointed and disillusioned by it all.. but at the end of the day i love the bible and think it is the word of god and i don’t see any other religion that comes as close to what jesus describes his true followers or who are fulfilling mat 24:14..
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ExBethelitenowPIMA
You sound so sure you can prove evolution
Im not as convinced as you, and yes I do read many books and I do think objectively.
Im still agnostic until I’m convinced otherwise
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Mass Shooting at Kingdom Hall in Hamburg, Germany
by EdenOne inmass shooting at a kingdom hall in hamburg, germany this evening.
at least 6 or 7 killed, dozens injured.
single shooter on the run, police doesn't rule out more shooters.
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ExBethelitenowPIMA
Could you please translate the above?
so what is known so far? It sounds like 8 dead and an unknown number injured
he was between 30-40 and dis fellowshiped about a year and a half earlier
he shot through the windows apparently so from now on even fewer windows on those Khalls
I wonder if we will all go back to zoom o ku for a time? Often there are copycat events after something like this
i amazed there is still nothing on jw.org all there is under news it still raves about
In-Person Circuit Assemblies and Theocratic Schools Resume
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Mass Shooting at Kingdom Hall in Hamburg, Germany
by EdenOne inmass shooting at a kingdom hall in hamburg, germany this evening.
at least 6 or 7 killed, dozens injured.
single shooter on the run, police doesn't rule out more shooters.
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ExBethelitenowPIMA
inbeteeen yes those in Norway trying to get change in shunning doctrine will use this
I can see a soft change or maybe new light on shunning from now on
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Mass Shooting at Kingdom Hall in Hamburg, Germany
by EdenOne inmass shooting at a kingdom hall in hamburg, germany this evening.
at least 6 or 7 killed, dozens injured.
single shooter on the run, police doesn't rule out more shooters.
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ExBethelitenowPIMA
Does anyone else feel it’s all happening at once-
Following direction to fully vaxxed was harmful
the Pensilvania debacle
AntMo the turd getting booted out
Japan branch getting raided over child abuse
Norway fighting to end shunning
Now this disfellowshipped brother feeling so strongly that he shoots up his Khall.
there will be many new meme bets on this very forum
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Physically in mentally agnostic ie sitting on the fence
by ExBethelitenowPIMA inhi everyone i’m not pimi or pimo i’m pima.. i don’t think the gb have everything right but i’m sitting on the fence that maybe they do some things.. if the great trib starts i will jump that side of the fence.. this is a definite little sneaky advantage dodging but even by their own doctrine last min some could come in.. i suspect many are like me.. i spent years in bethel and am very disappointed and disillusioned by it all.. but at the end of the day i love the bible and think it is the word of god and i don’t see any other religion that comes as close to what jesus describes his true followers or who are fulfilling mat 24:14..
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ExBethelitenowPIMA
Jhine that’s the entire point of sitting on the fence, I don’t take what the .org says as gospel.
im physically in but mentally agnostic
until either way can be proved evolution or creation I’m remaining agnostic
until then the Bible is very interesting to study
maybe the missing link will be found or after all this time they will find a monkey skull half human half monkey over the billions of years it was supposed to happen.
but if evolution was true I think it would have been proven by now, so this is what agnostic means you believe it can’t be proven.
if creation is true then I feel the Bible is the closest to the truth but I’m constantly studying
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Mass Shooting at Kingdom Hall in Hamburg, Germany
by EdenOne inmass shooting at a kingdom hall in hamburg, germany this evening.
at least 6 or 7 killed, dozens injured.
single shooter on the run, police doesn't rule out more shooters.
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ExBethelitenowPIMA
I can’t see them going back to that KHall any time soon if ever. Too traumatic.
that congregation is going to need a lot of support. I suspect it will be disbanded and the building sold off now.
I also wonder about letters going out to all bodies of elders about increasing security at all Khalls.
there always has to be at least two brothers wearing high vis, to show a security presence at every Khall. But now it will be increased and new instructions given.
I did a training on what to do if someone awkward tried to get access but they never mentioned someone with a gun