Posts by ExBethelitenowPIMA

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A Jehovah's Witness in a relationship with a non-Jehovah's Witness

by KShelton in

my name is kevin shelton.

my wife is a jehovah's witness.

my two children are jehovah's witnesses.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

KSheltona day ago

Well, I know I didn't say this in my OP. The girl's dad and I said anytime they are together there will be an adult chaperone to prevent such things as pregnancy. When I was there for my son to meet the father, neither the girl nor my son seemed to know the first thing about being in a relationship. How to act. They were both trying very hard to show respect to the adults. Her dad and I noticed this.

This is why I think it would be a good idea. The kids need to learn how to be in a relationship at this age to know how to be in a REAL relationship later in life. If they learn now (as we did back in the 70's) then later relationships become easier to manage and not filled with all sorts of drama

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It sounds like you know this relationship will fail and you just want your son to have experience. That is unfair to the girl.

I wouldn’t want my daughter to be used like this.

The JW way really is a protection don’t mess around with peoples feelings.

only enter a romantic relationship if you are ready for marriage

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Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body

by WingCommander in

jw
friends

this has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.

this is not a joke.

anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!

ExBethelitenowPIMA

Balaamsass217 hours ago

Got a call this AM from an ex-JW with JW family in North Carolina who are acquaintances of Tony Morris's family.

Watchtower set Tony and his wife up in a condo on the outskirts of Fayetteville, North Carolina (location of Fort Bragg).

Tony's story is: "Left Bethel due to age and health issues with himself and his wife, and to be closer to his family".

Smart move on Watchtower's part to be the landlord. Few people bite the hand that feeds them. A lesson learned from harassing Ray Franz

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Could you ask them did he participate in the emblems this year?

Is he even going to meetings and if so is he still an elder?

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Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body

by WingCommander in

jw
friends

this has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.

this is not a joke.

anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!

ExBethelitenowPIMA

Journeyman9 hours ago

Age and health definitely seems unlikely, given that all the other elderly GB members have stayed to the end despite their age or infirmity. As has been pointed out, Herd and Losch themselves are still there despite also becoming more frail and possibly borderline senile now. The GB usually get the best care from Bethel.

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Yes as time goes on Herd and Losch getting older will cast doubt on the story that ToMo left for age and health reasons.

I remember an elderly anointed brother in London Bethel who fell down the stair to the dining room and went to hospital because his hip was out of place.

Anyone in London Bethel over the last several years will know who I’m talking about.

He was on very strong pain meds and said the most outrageous things. Elders put it down to this ‘wild talk’ blamed it all on the meds.

Problem is he is now still in the infirmary STILL saying the same outrageous things.

A few weeks ago the memorial was the usual thing where his carers trying to tell him what’s going on and helping him to take the emblems but he doesn’t even know what day of the week it is.

Someone in Bethel I know told me one memorial this poor old brother who’s first name is Kieth was in bed due to his old age and some brother were assigned to help him take the emblems but he was pushing them away, he did know know what was going on around him.

My point is this often happens as people get into their later years. What will happen to Herd and Locsh if they don’t die but carry on living in the infirmary with dementia?

People will wonder why was the story going round the ToMo was removed for age and health when Herd and Losch are even older more and more infirm?

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I do not understand the universal issue anymore

by psyco in

to explain the universal issue we are often referring to a teacher and his/her students.. let us imagine that a teacher (god) has an hour (everlasting) class to show his students (humans and angels) how to fix a broken clock (to reign).. one student (adam) says he is able to fix it better independently, without the teacher's help (universal issue).. the teacher let him demonstrate that in front of all the others, but instead of an hour lesson he gives him only 5 minutes (death after a limited period of time) and he blocks one of the student's hands behind his back (imperfection).. if i were one of the other students watching i could think: but those were not the initial conditions the student was in when he said he could, and what would have happened leaving him more time and both hands free?.

am i crazy?.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

JW doctrines day that first God (who never had a beginning) made Jesus the firstborn of all creation. Together they made other spirit creatures all who had free will.
Jesus was the master worker but they all worked on the creation of the universe. Then finally they made humans.
They say the Bible says the Satan challenged the right to rule in Eden. He implied that independent rule from God would be better.
The illustration is that a rebellious student challenged the teacher at least by implying that his was not the best way.
God the teacher could throw him out of the class, but then the rebellious ones could claim they were right.
So he lets them try it their way. They have to be given enough time so that nobody can claim in the future that if they had longer then independent rule from God could work
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A Jehovah's Witness in a relationship with a non-Jehovah's Witness

by KShelton in

my name is kevin shelton.

my wife is a jehovah's witness.

my two children are jehovah's witnesses.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

It is relevant.

It is absolutely relevant if he feels it’s ok for 13 year old to be sleeping around.

Does he have high moral standards like the JWs no sex before marriage or does he think it’s ok to experiment. This is absolutely relevant to what we are discussing here.

I maintain if you stay close to Bible principals you are well protected against all kinds of problems especially from a young age.

this is relevant and this is exactly what is being discussed here.

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A Jehovah's Witness in a relationship with a non-Jehovah's Witness

by KShelton in

my name is kevin shelton.

my wife is a jehovah's witness.

my two children are jehovah's witnesses.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

@Stephane

I have to say I strongly disagree with you

suggeting he ends his marriage just because she has a different view on the Bible.

You said it’s not complicated yes it’s not, you are very wrong.

How would you feel if they split up after 14 years of marriage and you were a big part of that?

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A Jehovah's Witness in a relationship with a non-Jehovah's Witness

by KShelton in

my name is kevin shelton.

my wife is a jehovah's witness.

my two children are jehovah's witnesses.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

Do you see my point about this brining frustration with hormones and all?

This is why I think the Bibles advice is very good wait until past the bloom of youth when hormones stabilise and you are more mature

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I do not understand the universal issue anymore

by psyco in

to explain the universal issue we are often referring to a teacher and his/her students.. let us imagine that a teacher (god) has an hour (everlasting) class to show his students (humans and angels) how to fix a broken clock (to reign).. one student (adam) says he is able to fix it better independently, without the teacher's help (universal issue).. the teacher let him demonstrate that in front of all the others, but instead of an hour lesson he gives him only 5 minutes (death after a limited period of time) and he blocks one of the student's hands behind his back (imperfection).. if i were one of the other students watching i could think: but those were not the initial conditions the student was in when he said he could, and what would have happened leaving him more time and both hands free?.

am i crazy?.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

Is Satan perfect?

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A Jehovah's Witness in a relationship with a non-Jehovah's Witness

by KShelton in

my name is kevin shelton.

my wife is a jehovah's witness.

my two children are jehovah's witnesses.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

I notice you have a 14 year marriage and a 13 year old son, you may not want to answer this but did you remain chaste before your wedding day?

Sorry for too personal question you don’t have to answer.

The point I was making is that it can be very difficult if not impossible for a boy and girl who like each other spend lots of time together and not start kissing and touching. Once you have kissed that’s it the body will be frustrated if you go ahead and get your body ready for something it doesn’t get, I mean then deny going further.

The Bible says you can’t hold fire and not get burnt.

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A Jehovah's Witness in a relationship with a non-Jehovah's Witness

by KShelton in

my name is kevin shelton.

my wife is a jehovah's witness.

my two children are jehovah's witnesses.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

This may not be relevant but do you really think 13 year olds should be getting into relationships at this age?

The hormones are crazy at this age so unless you don’t mind them experimenting sexually then maybe it’s not a good idea?

What happens if she gets pregnant are they really ready to have a family? Of course not at 13.

You may be thinking they won’t be doing anything like that but here is my point. The hormones are crazy and will bring frustration