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  Is there “new light” on 1914?

  by wallsofjericho in

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  i’m hearing paraphrasing like “we just don’t know” .

  is this regarding 1914?

  or micheal the arch angel?.

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  • There have been a few almost imperceptible changes to their 1914 doctoral stance. Firstly they have said ‘about 1914’ instead of just 1914. Second they try and say Jesus was enthroned about 1914 but hasn’t yet sat down in the thrown, that will be in the future sometime.

    So this does indeed look like a soft slight heading in the direction of a change to their 1914 foundations. But as soon as they try to have new light they will see that everything else falls apart.

    It is inevitable that at sometime they will have to have an updated understanding and new light on 1914. Maybe another decade or a little longer but then it will be just to far away from 1914. But if they do then 1919 will fall apart and then the governing body being Jehovah’s channel on earth will fall apart.
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  The Next Big Thing In WT World

  by NotFormer in

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  things got a bit lively after the agm leaks in october.

  there was a lot of discussion going on on this board for a few months.

  now that all the leaks have been more or less confirmed as policy, and we've had lively discussions at length concerning the changes, things seem to have slowed down here.. a few suggestions have been raised as to what might be the next changes, such as women being allowed to wear slacks (in the usa, anyway), decoupling from 1914 as an anchoring date and others.. so, what changes do you think will be announced this year?.

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  There have been a few almost imperceptible changes to their 1914 doctoral stance. Firstly they have said ‘about 1914’ instead of just 1914. Second they try and say Jesus was enthroned about 1914 but hasn’t yet sat down in the thrown, that will be in the future sometime.

  So this does indeed look like a soft slight heading in the direction of a change to their 1914 foundations. But as soon as they try to have new light they will see that everything else falls apart.

  It is inevitable that at sometime they will have to have an updated understanding and new light on 1914. Maybe another decade or a little longer but then it will be just to far away from 1914. But if they do then 1919 will fall apart and then the governing body being Jehovah’s channel on earth will fall apart.
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  Fading is better then completely leaving...comments?

  by Witness 007 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i got the internet in my house and realised it's all lies....but as a pioneer/ministerial servant i chose to fade.

  see i had family and friends who were fully strict witnesses.

  so i played the poor lost soul brother who is not sure what's happening.

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  You don’t have to watch your words being JWlite anymore than any other religion. We all have to watch our words in any situation anywhere.

  You can now openly express that you are not sure about this or that. You can now say you think the vaccine was not safe.

  only recently if you said the vaccine was not safe someone would say that’s just Satan trying to discredit the governing body.

  but things have definitely changed now, you can openly express doubts, without being called into the back room. And even if you were called into the back room that is not going to lead to being shunned or anything. As long as you can’t be accused of causing division.

  even if you were accused of causing divisions in the congregation you could deny it, saying you are not pushing your ideas on anyone else but just expressing you have doubts about the GB. If some elders wanted to push for a judicial committee then all you have to do is say that doing so would make you Suicidal then it won’t go any further
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  world war 111 ?

  by stan livedeath in

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  well--with ww3 widely forecast--can we expect to see a large growth in jw membership ?.

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  Some say WW3 had already started just prod wars for now. The difference this time around is you can’t have a nuclear power lose the war because everyone knows what that would mean.

  How can Russia ever lose? They can’t.
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  Fading is better then completely leaving...comments?

  by Witness 007 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i got the internet in my house and realised it's all lies....but as a pioneer/ministerial servant i chose to fade.

  see i had family and friends who were fully strict witnesses.

  so i played the poor lost soul brother who is not sure what's happening.

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  You can have that weight lifted from your shoulders by choosing JWlite. Things have changed recently and those who left years ago don’t understand how much things have changed.

  I can see some toxic advice on these forums from xJWs who did hard exit and advise others to do the same because it makes them feel better about their decision. Misery loves company.

  The best advice is not to do a hard exit because you will be shunned for the rest of your life by all JWs.

  Just do a soft exit either become inactive and still go to meetings/ministry or fade completely and stop everything if that’s what you want.

  Do it in a smart way. Don’t write a letter and don’t go and say something that will get you shunned.

  It’s surprising these days what you can say and stay Jwlite. For example asking others in the congregation “have you ever doubted the GB?” Depending on how they answer you could take it either way by saying “yes we know the are not inspired or infallible they are just doing their best”

  or you could push a little more if you feel you may be talking to someone else who is also jwlite.

  For me I want to keep a hope that the Bibles promises may have some truth to them, but I don’t think anyone has the correct understanding or interpretation’s especially not JWs. But JWs are great people and it’s a great social club. As time goes on more and more are like me.
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  Has The Interpretation of the Beast Changed?

  by NotFormer in

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  my understanding* is that the un is supposed to be the wild beast of revelation.

  the un only came into being after wwii, so what was the beast before the new light came about?

  i can't see a speculative organisation like the wt not having an interpretation of the beast before the un came into being.

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  I always thought the beast was the League of Nations before, this then became the UN? They teach it only came into existence in the last days so I guess 1914 again
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  Depression & Isolation

  by TxNVSue2023 in

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  i've been recently reinstated & am very happy about it.

  i do love righteous (love & justice) and i do hate wickedness ( selfishness & sin).

  i do love jehovah and the bible truths & wisdom.

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  First thing is talk to your group overseer. The elders will help you.

  before the elders make efforts to help, try to help yourself first.

  invite different ones for a meal, get involved with the congregation. Get to ministry groups and always go for coffee breaks, even if just on zoom.

  that way at the meetings you will have ones to talk to and more meaningful conversations.

  even if you stay JWlite and don’t fully believe all JW interpretations of the Bible then you can still have hope in the Bibles promises
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  Is there “new light” on 1914?

  by wallsofjericho in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i’m hearing paraphrasing like “we just don’t know” .

  is this regarding 1914?

  or micheal the arch angel?.

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  Gorb I noticed it a lot with Sam Turd. It’s kind of polite nervous laugh, over anything that Sam tries to make funny because they feel they should.

  I remember his talk about a new release and he lost the envelope, he said is it here, nope. And everyone polite nervous laughed, then he was like is it over here ah here it is, and people were saying to each other oh he is so funny. But is he really?
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  So what happens next...

  by Farmer Jim1 in

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  with what is arguably the biggest change to jw life in recent decades (the scrapping of publishers counting hours) what does this lead to?.

  in my mind these are the results;.

  1) a massive decrease in 'preaching hours'.

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  There is such a shortage of brothers midweek now they are having sisters take the group and say prayers

  how things have changed
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  Is there “new light” on 1914?

  by wallsofjericho in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i’m hearing paraphrasing like “we just don’t know” .

  is this regarding 1914?

  or micheal the arch angel?.

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  They haven’t mentioned 1914 doctrinal changes but sometimes recently they have actually said about 1914 instead of just saying 1914.

  When you think about the changes about who will be killed at Armageddon they said we just don’t know, so they are admitting they never knew.

  If they even admitted they never knew about 1914 and it was just copying William Miller then it would be too much for average Jdub to take.

  They can’t admit this, but then again at some point they will have to. There is no way out, they have painted themselves into a corner