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please explain to me this watchtower doctrine, which still stands today as a revealed truth from the faithful and discreet slave class revealed in 1935 still taught today: .

judge rutherford, representing the watchtower society announced in 1935 in a convention that the doors to heaven were shut down in 1935, and the gathering of the annointed class was accomplished in 1935. .

AwakenedAndFree

Sword of Jah said:The point is that JWs did not prophesy, they were trying to understand a prophesy that is already written in the Bible.

Dear Sword of Jah If the Watchtower Society did not prophesy, please show me the prophesy in the Holy Scriptures that the Watchtower Society used in the understanding of the 1935 (1930's) - Heavenly Calling doctrine. Does the prophecy mention 1935? Thanks in advance. ISAIAH 62:6:" ... :"YOU who are making mention of Jehovah, let there be no silence on your part," Christian Love, AAF Thanks in advance.

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Sword of Jah: Re:Omitted Scriptures - NWT has no footnote explanations.Why?

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dear sword of jah:.

the watchtower society omitted the following scriptures from their new world translation bible without a footnote explanation to readers explaining the reason of omission.

here are the missing scriptures - i'am referring only to the ones i know - there may be more: .

AwakenedAndFree

In conclusion, don't you think if the larger version includes explanatory footnotes, the smaller versions should also, to make all WT published Bibles equal?

Sword of Jah said:

"What's your point? It's a silly question."

Dear Sword of Jah,

My point is a logical one, and my question is a fair one.

Yes, The Watchtower offers 2 versions of the Bible: The larger version NWT Bible has footnotes, and the smaller NWT version Bible, which is used mostly in your field service has no footnotes.

That makes the smaller version an incomplete Bible. Is that hard to understand?

The Watchtower Society claims to provide humankind with the most accurate and the most complete version of the Holy Scriptures. Wouldn't be reasonable to say that a Bible that is to be used in public to give an accurate witness about Our Heavenly Creator Jehovah God should also include all explanatory footnotes for all omitted Scriptures to be considered as being complete in Jehovah God's Eyes?

What gives the Watchtower the authority not to include explanatory footnotes in the smaller version just "because the smaller NWT Bible version would be to big to carry in the field ministry and not portable? "Please refer to this quote given by an elder to Blondie ( see above on her post to me.)

That's my point!

Christian Love,

AAF

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Sword of Jah: Re:Omitted Scriptures - NWT has no footnote explanations.Why?

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dear sword of jah:.

the watchtower society omitted the following scriptures from their new world translation bible without a footnote explanation to readers explaining the reason of omission.

here are the missing scriptures - i'am referring only to the ones i know - there may be more: .

AwakenedAndFree

Dear Blondie,

Many thanks for your comments and references.

When I asked an elder why the footnotes were not in the smaller NWT, I was given a typical elder non-answer of that the smaller NWT would be too big and not portable for the ministry if they were included.

Doesn't this make the smaller version NWT Bible incomplete over the larger WT Bible version?

Thankfully you had the larger version Bible with you, (it was portable to you, wasn't it?) otherwise how embarrassing!

Christian Love,

AAF

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A question for Sword of Jah

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dear sword of jah, .

please explain to me this watchtower doctrine, which still stands today as a revealed truth from the faithful and discreet slave class revealed in 1935 still taught today: .

judge rutherford, representing the watchtower society announced in 1935 in a convention that the doors to heaven were shut down in 1935, and the gathering of the annointed class was accomplished in 1935. .

AwakenedAndFree

No, the year 1935 is not in the Bible. The organization now uses the expression "in the 1930's". The organization uses these dates because that's when the information was clarified No, the year 1935 is not in the Bible.

Dear Sword of Jah,

You said that the organization uses the above dates because that' when the information was clarified - you mean the date was clarified by man, and not by Jehovah God? The date (dates), (1935), (1930's) are not NOT in the Scriptures!

Do you know what the Scripture says about man setting dates? It's not under man's jurisdiction to do so, but only in God's own jurisdiction.

Here is a Scripture for your benifit:

MATTHEW:15:9:" It is in vain that they keep worshiping me, because they teach commands of man as doctrines."

Another Scripture for your benefit:

Acts 1:7:" He said to them:" It does not belong to YOU to get knowledge of the times or seasons which the Father has placed in his own jurisdiction;"

Christian Love,

AAF

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Sword of Jah: Re:Omitted Scriptures - NWT has no footnote explanations.Why?

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dear sword of jah:.

the watchtower society omitted the following scriptures from their new world translation bible without a footnote explanation to readers explaining the reason of omission.

here are the missing scriptures - i'am referring only to the ones i know - there may be more: .

AwakenedAndFree

Blondie said:" The omitted scriptures have no footnote in the small NWT"

Dear Sword of Jah,

Why is it that the Watchtower Society include explanatory footnotes for omitted Scriptures in the larger Bible version and it does not include explanatory footnotes on the smaller version Bible?

The smaller Bible (I'am referring to the medium sized-one) has no explanatory footnotes to inform the reader reason of Scripture omission. Why?

In conclusion, don't you think if the larger version includes explanatory footnotes, the smaller versions should also, to make all WT published Bibles equal?

The Reasoning Book does not answer the question I posed you .

I'am awaiting for your response.

Thanks in advance.

Christian Love,

AAF

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Sword of Jah: Re:Omitted Scriptures - NWT has no footnote explanations.Why?

by AwakenedAndFree in

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dear sword of jah:.

the watchtower society omitted the following scriptures from their new world translation bible without a footnote explanation to readers explaining the reason of omission.

here are the missing scriptures - i'am referring only to the ones i know - there may be more: .

AwakenedAndFree

Dear Blondie,

Thanks for the info. So, the smaller version does not include explanatory footnotes, only the larger version does. Aren't they suppose to print all their Bibles exactly in the same format and not leave anything behind ? I always used my regular - sized Bible when I went out in service. Thankfully, I never had anyone commenting on the NWT Bible missing Scriptures. How embarrassing it would be for me representing the true God Jehovah and not been able to have an explanatory footnote on my Bible to explain to the householder reason of omission.

So, in conclusion, the WT Bibles differ from another, the larger size has footnotes, and the smaller size has none!

Christian Love,

AAF

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Ozzie's Quote of the Day

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for your meditation:.

what a man wishes, he generally believes to be true.. my 'take' on this is that it would go part way to explaining the reluctance, the cognitive dissonance, of many loyal members of the r&f who just refuse to believe that something's wrong in the borg.. what do you think?

AwakenedAndFree

Gumby said: Most dubs do not understand how the society can be guided by Jehovah......yet have the problems they have...

They should read this Scripture:

Matthew 15:9:" It is in vain that they keep worshiping me, because they teach commands of men as doctrines."

AAF

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Sword of Jah: Re:Omitted Scriptures - NWT has no footnote explanations.Why?

by AwakenedAndFree in

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dear sword of jah:.

the watchtower society omitted the following scriptures from their new world translation bible without a footnote explanation to readers explaining the reason of omission.

here are the missing scriptures - i'am referring only to the ones i know - there may be more: .

AwakenedAndFree

Dear Sword of Jah:

The Watchtower Society omitted the following Scriptures from their New World Translation Bible without a footnote explanation to readers explaining the reason of omission. Why?

Here are the missing Scriptures - I'am referring only to the ones I know - there may be more:

LUKE: 17:36,

MARK 9:44

MARK 9:46,

MATTHEW 18:11,

MATTHEW 17:21,

JOHN 5:4,

ACTS 8:37,

ACTS 15:34,

ACTS 24:7,

ROMANS 16:24,

Please explain to me the reason the above Scriptures were omitted from NWT Bible. Please describe reason Scripture by Scripture.

Thanks in advance.

Christian Love,

AAF

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A question for Sword of Jah

by AwakenedAndFree in

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dear sword of jah, .

please explain to me this watchtower doctrine, which still stands today as a revealed truth from the faithful and discreet slave class revealed in 1935 still taught today: .

judge rutherford, representing the watchtower society announced in 1935 in a convention that the doors to heaven were shut down in 1935, and the gathering of the annointed class was accomplished in 1935. .

AwakenedAndFree

Sword of Jah said:
"Now I know that I voluntarily visit this forum, but as many of the posters have pointed out, not everyone here is an apostate or disfellowshipped. Some here are inactive, some are fading away, some just lurk out of curiosity. I also post for their benefit."

"

Sword of Jah said: "Do I visit for my own benefit? The answer is no."

Sword of Jah said:"So in conclusion, Why do I visit this forum? To Witness."

Dear Sword of Jah:

You made the above statements in a recent thread that a poster here on this forum started.

You claim to frequent this forum for the solo purpose to "witness" to us. I would like to tell you that I'am not an apostate nor I have been disfellowshiped - I just faded away, and I am inactive now. Can you please respond to the question that I posed you above?

I would like to share with you these scriptures for your benefit:

Acts 1: 6:" When now they had assembled, they went asking him: " Lord are you restoring the kingdom to Israel at this time?"

Acts 1 :7:" He said to them: "It does not belong to YOU to get knowledge of the times or seasons which the Father has placed in his own jurisdiction;"

There is nowhere in the Bible that mentions Jehovah God referring to the year 1935 as the year that He designated His Heavenly Calling. You won't be able to answer me, neither any Watchtower elder, nor the Watchtower Governing Body members will be able to answer the question I posed you, using their own Bible. Just remember next time you go out in service preaching the "good news Watchtower- style". What would be your answer if the householder posed you a question such as the one I posed you? What would be your response?

Setting dates in not under the Governing Body's jurisdiction, but only under Jehovah God's own JURISDICTION !

1 Peter 2:12 :" Maintain YOUR conduct fine among the nations, that, in the thing in which they are speaking against YOU as evildoers, they may as a result of YOUR fine works of which they are eyewitnesses glorify God in the day for [his] inspection."

1 Peter2:25: " For you were like sheep, going astray; but now YOU have returned to the shepherd and overseer of YOUR souls."

Christian Love,

AwakenedAndFree