(((Dear Grace)))
Get well soon!
Christian Love,
AAF
we just returned from visiting mouthy- she is not feeling well -her back is "out "since friday, and she is in so much pain she can hardly walk.
she is still a trooper,doesn`t complain much but it is obvious it is not easy for her.. she is not able to post much right now because she needs to lie down and rest,but she sends all of you lots of hugs and kisses.with her permission i am writting this, so if someone would like to send her some get well thoughts it would be much appreciated.. thank you all.. get well soon dear grace , we love you very much.
invictus and family
(((Dear Grace)))
Get well soon!
Christian Love,
AAF
some comments here, suggest regret---that you were afraid of these simple men.
have you ever told an elder off?
what was the result?
Blondie said: BTW, it is possible to tell an elder off respectfully, without swear words and raising your voice. Jesus told off the Pharisees using the scriptures. They said he was wrong, just wrong for pointing our their errors. Blondie
I agree with you Blondie. This is what I said to a Ministerial Servant in the Hall at the Sunday Meeting after he treated me disrespectfully:"You are speaking to me this way because my husband in not here - if he was present, here, you wouldn't speak to me like this! And I walked away. Hours passed after this incident, and he called me to apologize, and he agreed with me on what I had told him at the Hall - he said:" had your husband been present at the Hall, I wouldn't have made that remark". He told me he loved me as a sister, and I believed him. After that, whenever he would see me at the Hall, he would look at me - then ignore me. AAF
is there any part of being a witness that you think is honestly the truth?
so many people use the term "truth" when in fact there is no way to prove it is the truth.
it used to be for me being raised a witness that i thought everything printed or said was the truth now i don't.
Singing said:"It used to be for me being raised a Witness that I thought everything printed or said was the truth now I don't."
The Watchtower creates doctrines to fit their Organization.
Do you understand this?
WT: 1874, 1914, 1935, 1975 :"Our truth will set you free from us."
AAF
i have a question for active elders, ex-elders and other bible experts regarding the following topic:.
will the brothers and sisters marry and have children in the new system?.
according to the watchtower, yes .
Xena said:"If I recall correctly the dubs claim that the new testament was written directly to the anointed and those scriptures refer to them not to the great crowd..."
LUKE:20:33:" Consequently, in the ressurrection, of which one of them does she become [the wife]? For the seven got her as a wife?
According to the Watchtower's teachings with regards to the illustration the Seducees gave to Jesus regarding the wife who married seven times is that this wife is - actually of the Anointed Class!
MATTHEW:" 22:29:"In reply Jesus said to them:" You are mistaken, because YOU know neither the Scriptures nor the power of God;
MATTHEW:22:30:" for in the resurrection neither do men marry nor are women given in marriage,"
"Holy men "and "Holy Women" are not mentioned in Matthew 22:30.
Christian Love,
AAF
we go through cycles every so often here.
we get new posters every week and at times we lose some posters.
when most "newbies" find this site, they are thrilled to be able to express themselves in a way that they could never in a kingdom hall.
(((((((Dear Simon and Angahrad))))))
THANK YOU for providing us here with a valuable communication tool where we, your guests can express ourselves in a civil manner. There have been times, however, where things got difficult for you - thankfully you and your wife have always been able to manage, control and resolve those difficult situations. And I admire you and Angahrad for that!
Thank you for having me as your guest!
AwakenedAndFree
i have a question for active elders, ex-elders and other bible experts regarding the following topic:.
will the brothers and sisters marry and have children in the new system?.
according to the watchtower, yes .
Dear Barry,
You said:"No because if brothers and sisters marry thats incest"
In case you do not know, people who are related to us in the Christian faith, we address them to as Brothers and Sisters! They are our Spiritual Brothers and Sisters! Christian Love, AAF
the "truth" is supposed to be sooo "refreshing".
the publications talk about how "happy and refreshed" witnesses always are.
was that your experience?
" Did You Ever Feel Refreshed as ...."
as a Watchtower Witness? How could you ever feel refreshed under so much pressure from the elders to do more? I NEVER DID feel refreshed spiritually, NO.
When I was still in the Org., I attended a meeting where the Presiding Overseer was the speaker. The Circuit Overseer had just left the Congregation that week. And this is what the Presiding Overseer had to say of that (wonderful week) oops - NOT we had with our Brother Circuit Overseer :" Brothers and Sisters, we had a grueling week!"
I tought then that this was a horrible thing to say, specially when Jesus addressed to the apostles that Jesus' load is light! I was so confused for so long!
It's grueling to be a Watchtower Witness!
AAF
do you consider the ones you left behind in the organization as brothers and sisters?.
the ones who don't shun me are my brothers and sisters!
i have a friend/sister who is still in the organization.
Dear JH,
You said:"How about:MATTHEW 12:50:"For whoever does the will of my Father who is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother."NWT Are you doing the will of Our Heavenly Father? If yes, you are my ((((( BROTHER!))))) 1 JOHN 5:2,3,4:(2):" By this we gain the knowledge that we are loving the children of God when we are loving God and doing his commandments." (3):" For this is what the love of God means, and yet his commandments are not burdensome. (4):" because everything that has been born from God conquers the world. And this is the conquest that has conquered the world, our faith."NWT Christian Love, AAFDo you consider the posters here as your Bro/Sis?
We have more in commun here on this forum than we have for those in the org.
do you consider the ones you left behind in the organization as brothers and sisters?.
the ones who don't shun me are my brothers and sisters!
i have a friend/sister who is still in the organization.
A very big thank you to all of you who responded to this thread! Thank you for your responses and insights.
Gadget said:"All my friends when I was a jw now shun me, but I don't blame them, they're under mind control. I think about them all the time.
Thank you for your post, Gadget. I really like what you said! They are indeed under mind control - they allow themselves to be ,and the result is disastrous! They act Un-godly, and Un-Christianly -( they are not Christians to me. Therefore I don't consider the ones who shun me Brother or Sister.
Christian Love, AAFdo you consider the ones you left behind in the organization as brothers and sisters?.
the ones who don't shun me are my brothers and sisters!
i have a friend/sister who is still in the organization.
((((Dear Michael))))
And in my case they have shunned me completley even though I was never disfellowshipped. They are world's largest hypocrites!! They disgust me!!
I too, I am inactive and have been shunned. Those who shun me - I consider them Un-Christian!
Please don't lose faith in God despite what happened.
Christian Love,
AAF