Posts by AwakenedAndFree

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Who has despised the day of small things?

by Know_You in

as the apostates increasingly gather courage, poking their vile heads out of their filthy spider-holes, slavering like the mad creatures that they are, as they shake their puny fists at the lord of all creation, jehovah's people may may become downhearted, even despondent.

many, we hear, are slowing down or even becoming inactive.

others have been so bold as to have risen up to question the slave as it faithfully dispenses food in due season.

AwakenedAndFree

Dear You_Know,

Thank you for your reply.

You said:

"AwakenedAndFree,
Only the LORD can forgive. Still, I appreciate the thought. "

AAF says: Here is what the Holy Scriptures say about the Brothers and Sisters forgiving one another: LUKE 17:3:" Pay attention to yourselves, if your brother commits a sin give him a rebuke. and if he repents forgive him."NWT EPHESIANS 4:32:" But become kind to one another, tenderly compassionate, freely forgiving one another just as God also by Christ freely forgave you."NWT

Know_You said: "Did not Paul compare the craven apostate coward to the dog that has returned to its own vomit? Hence the phrase "apostate dog" has solid scriptural support"

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AAF says: Please show me a Scripture that points out that it is acceptable to Jehovah God to call Apostates: "Apostate dogs" ROMANS 12:20,21 : (20):" But, "if your enemy is hungry, feed him: if he is thristy, give him something to drink..."(21):"Do not let yourself be conquered by the evil but keep conquering the evil with the good."NWT LUKE 6:27:"But I say to YOU who are listening, Continue to love YOUR enemies, to do good to those hating YOU."NWT

'See how easy it is to trip the apostate in his own cunning;"

You are calling me an Apostate? I never claimed to be an apostate Know_You - I am NOT an apostate! : I am a Jehovah God Witness, and do Not pronounce me what I am NOT! Only Jehovah God knows who is an apostate and who is Not - God reads hearts - you don't! If you informed your congregation that you are posting/frequenting this site, what would your cong. label you as? Think about it.

"To shrive the very muscle form the bone with the double edged sword of truth\Know_You"

Wow ! Know_You! Seriously, you are making me laugh! Is this the new slogan that the Watchtower is encouraging it's members to use? What an excruciating/torturous/grueling illustration! It doesn't surprise me: The Watchtower Society is burdensome in everything! I prefer this way: MATTHEW 11:29,30:(29)" Take my yoke upon YOU and learn from me, for I am mild-tempered and lowly in heart and YOU will find refreshments for YOUR souls.(30): For my yoke is kindly and my load is light."NWT JOHN 8:31:" And so Jesus went on to say to the Jews that had believed him:" If YOU remain in my word, YOU are really my disciples."NWT The WT org. has enumerated Jehovah God's Laws and has chosen the Path of Independence from God's Word. Now they are suffering the consequences: They have a lot of explanation to do at the doors. People are well informed now: and they want a lot of answers. In Christian Love, AAF

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Who has despised the day of small things?

by Know_You in

as the apostates increasingly gather courage, poking their vile heads out of their filthy spider-holes, slavering like the mad creatures that they are, as they shake their puny fists at the lord of all creation, jehovah's people may may become downhearted, even despondent.

many, we hear, are slowing down or even becoming inactive.

others have been so bold as to have risen up to question the slave as it faithfully dispenses food in due season.

AwakenedAndFree

Dear Know_You,

You said:
"Now, I have to get back to Mrs Know-You who is serving me my 3 course luncheon so that I can resume my ministry while she resumes re-decorating the living room so that she can finish before it's time for her to prepare din dins. My ministry this afternoon is of a very special variety; you have heard of street witnessing, business witnessing. Well, I have introduced pub-witnessing. It is going down a treat.
Hope that helps,"

AAF says: It does not help at all as you have not responded to the question I posed you today.

You have introduced pub-witnessing Know_You? Are you a member of the Governing Body ? WOW! What a revelation! Do you drink while you witness for the Watchtower Society? Are you Judge Rutherford's successor? That' s scary. By the way, Rutherford introduced the 1935 man-made doctrine that I questioned you! I don't trust both of you's.Judge Rutherford was a false Prophet who brought reproach to Jehovah God's Name and the Watchtower still considers him a "brother"! Disgusting!

I have forgiven you, Know_You, for the things you have insulted me with in the past. You called people here today :"Apostate dogs". There is no such thing as "Apostate dogs". People who have chosen to become apostate are human beings and NOT dogs! Do you understand? You have trespassed Jesus Christ's Law of Love to love everyone! I called you a Brother in my earlier post because I understood were you are coming from- the fact you didn't shun us is a quality that I admire.However, after much pondering on this matter, I concluded that I can no longer consider yourself my Brother as you violated Jesus Christ's Law of Love.

Sincerely,

AAF

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Who has despised the day of small things?

by Know_You in

as the apostates increasingly gather courage, poking their vile heads out of their filthy spider-holes, slavering like the mad creatures that they are, as they shake their puny fists at the lord of all creation, jehovah's people may may become downhearted, even despondent.

many, we hear, are slowing down or even becoming inactive.

others have been so bold as to have risen up to question the slave as it faithfully dispenses food in due season.

AwakenedAndFree

(((((Dear Brother Know_You)))

Thank you for choosing not to shun us here. I have a question for you: Can you explain to me the 1935 doctrine taught by the WT Society today "as truth". Where is the Biblical proof that shows the year 1935 was the year that Jehovah God's selection to heaven( annointed class) stopped due to be filled?

I am inactive now , and I would appreciate your help/response in regards to the above-stated matter.

ACTS 17:11: " Now the latter were more noble-minded than those in Thes.sa.lo.ni'ca, for they received the word with greatest eagerness of mind, carefully examining the Scriptures daily as to whether these things were so."NWT

ACTS 1:7:" He said to them:" It does not belong to YOU to get knowledge of the times or seasons which the Father has placed in his own jurisdiction;"NWT

Thank you,

In Christian Love,

AAF

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Why does anything exist at all?

by logansrun in

jw
friends

god or no god, why is there something rather than nothing?

why do elements have properties?

why does consciousness exist?

AwakenedAndFree

(((Dear Logansrun,)))

You asked:" Why does anything exist at all?"

REVELATION 4:11:" YOU are worthy, Jehovah, even our God, to receive the glory and the honor and the power, because you created all things, and because of your will they existed and were created."NWT

Christian Love,

AAF

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WITNESS WORLD IS CLOSING DOWN

by DevonMcBride in

jw
friends

this was posted on ww today.

do you think the apostate infiltration had anything to do with it?.

in the name of christian unity and peace, we regret to inform you that the management of ww has decided to close the ?park?

AwakenedAndFree

Dear Brother/Sister "blind zebra",

Welcome to the Forum!

You said:"but it was the very thing that set me "free" and I fled into the arms of the TRUE GOD.

I am so happy that you "fled into the arms of the TRUE GOD." I too fled into the arms of the TRUE GOD JEHOVAH when I left the Watchtower.

I was released.....but my faith has not been shaken, but has intensified.....not in religion but in God and his word...

Well said.

is there anyone else that agrees?

I do agree with you, blindzebra.

Anyway, my heart goes out to these ones that have no place to go to talk now......

if they should arrive here.....be kind to them.....for they are just like you.....searching and looking and seeking to be healed and to understand.....

Agreed.

I have not lost faith in God.....9-11 was the most faith-strenghtening period of my life......why, just read Revelation chapter 18. God is REAL......

with love and kind wishes, as we all need healing, and to love one another.... "

I am very happy for you.

Christian Love,

AAF

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Return To God, and He WIll Forgive You in a Large Way!

by AwakenedAndFree in

did you leave the watchtower society and the true god ,too?.

i believe that god still helps some of the of the ones still "traped" in the org.

- god helped me greatly while i was still in.

AwakenedAndFree

(((Dear Ross)))),

You said:"
You are as welcome to your beliefs as I am to mine.
Every blessing, in Christ,
Ross.

Thank you, Brother Ross. May Jehovah God and Jesus Christ bless you as well.

In Christian Love,

AAF

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Return To God, and He WIll Forgive You in a Large Way!

by AwakenedAndFree in

did you leave the watchtower society and the true god ,too?.

i believe that god still helps some of the of the ones still "traped" in the org.

- god helped me greatly while i was still in.

AwakenedAndFree

((((Dear Toreador))))),

You said:" Thank you for your reply and a hug back to you.
Toreador

Thank you for respecting my Christian beliefs, Toreador. Please accept a hug from me for you too.

Christian Love,

AAF

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Return To God, and He WIll Forgive You in a Large Way!

by AwakenedAndFree in

did you leave the watchtower society and the true god ,too?.

i believe that god still helps some of the of the ones still "traped" in the org.

- god helped me greatly while i was still in.

AwakenedAndFree

((((((Dear Toreador)))))

AAF said:"I trust the NWT Bible completely. I sincerely/wholeheartedly believe that Jehovah God's Holy Spirit guided the New World Bible Translation Committee to translate the NWT revised version in 1984.

There may be some errors in translation in the original Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic languages. Some of the Holy Scriptures may have had a meaning that was slightly different from what the translaters thought, but in general and as a whole I still think the NWT Bible is accurate ."

You said:

"In an earlier post you said you sincerely believe Jehovah guided them in the NWT translation. You also then state in effect that Jehovah guided them in omitting some bible versus "

AAF says: Please show me here I said the above highlighted statement.

The Scriptures were all there for them to include in the Holy Book, the Bible. They decided what to include and what to exclude. In this sense they are to be blamed for not incluiding the verses they excluded in the NWT Bible ( medium -sized one)without references. The Society also published a NWT Bible with references in the same day in addition to the medium-sized one (this one being the one in question here): this one being the large formated one has references. But the medium-sized one is the one in question here. The Society considers the medium-sized one complete whereas it is missing a lot of verses and no explanatory references/ footnotes are included to explain to the reader reason of omitted verses.

"that they will be held accountable for?"

The New World Bible Translating Committee of 1984 is/ are accountable for not explaining reason of omitted verses to the reader and Not using references and footnotes inside the medium-sized NWT Bible. They offer these features in the larger Bible and do NOT use the same feature in the medium-sized Bible. And they claim that this one is complete even though has omitted verses and no explanatory footnotes/references..

" Sounds like you are confused. "

I am Not confused. I know exactly what I am talking about.

"What is your definition of the words "Jehovah guided" and "Jehovah inspired" or is it the same thing?"

Jehovah God "guided" to me means God guided the committee by God's Holy Spirit to translate the NWT." Inspired" means that God Inspired holy men of long ago to write the Holy Writtings contained in the Bible.

"Why would God direct them to omit verses?"

Jehovah God did NOT direct the New Bible World Translating Committee to omit verses - he/they did it out of their own initiative.

Christian Love,.

AAF

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Return To God, and He WIll Forgive You in a Large Way!

by AwakenedAndFree in

did you leave the watchtower society and the true god ,too?.

i believe that god still helps some of the of the ones still "traped" in the org.

- god helped me greatly while i was still in.

AwakenedAndFree

(((( Dear Ross)))),

You said:"Meanwhile, in your opinion, have they made any other mistakes / errors, or is it just the omission thang?"

I trust the NWT Bible completely. I sincerely/wholeheartedly believe that Jehovah God's Holy Spirit guided the New World Bible Translation Committee to translate the NWT revised version in 1984.

There may be some errors in translation in the original Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic languages. Some of the Holy Scriptures may have had a meaning that was slightly different from what the translaters thought, but in general and as a whole I still think the NWT Bible is accurate .

Christian Love,

AAF

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Return To God, and He WIll Forgive You in a Large Way!

by AwakenedAndFree in

did you leave the watchtower society and the true god ,too?.

i believe that god still helps some of the of the ones still "traped" in the org.

- god helped me greatly while i was still in.

AwakenedAndFree

((((Dear Ross,))))

AAF said:"When I say the NWT is not perfect, it's in the sense that it's not complete."
Ross said: "I find this statement interesting.
How do you mean not complete?
(I accept that you aren't agreeing that it's a flawed translation, with this comment, btw)."

AAF says: To me, perfection equals completeness.The NWT is not flawed - I believe it's incomplete because there are verses missing in the NWT, and there are no explanatory notes for the reader to discern the reason of ommission. It's in this way that I consider the NWT incomplete. That's all.

I believe that the member/members of the Watchtower Society's New World Bible Translation Committee are to blame for this. And they will have to answer to Jehovah God one day for what they did. They ommitted these verses in question without informing their users the reason for ommission.

I will supply you with the missing verses in question to the best of my knowledge upon your request, Ross.

Sincerely,

Christian Love,

AAF