Greta Thunberg, Worse than Plague

by Simon in

so greta thunberg thinks the world pollutes too much.

specifically, the parts of the world that pollute the least and have the cleanest industries.

she doesn't seem to care about india or china who are the biggest polluters by far.. "how dare they".

caves

Fink-Nevertheless I find it deplorable hearing people shitting on a single girl because she was proclaiming please protect the environment for humanity's sake .

I think some people here may have completely lost their heart and soul when the left the JWS.

No one is 'Shitting' on Greta. Just calling out like it is. Also another definition of 'idiot' is 'ignorant' , which she is. She is a pawn, and a tool who is used to target a specific audience. She doesn't know, that makes her ignorant. An idiot. Which is also a clinical term for someone with severe mental/ learning disabilities and autism is classified as such.

Shame on those that use her autism and youth to further their agenda.

Autistic individuals can have some amazing abilities in very insular ways. Her autism is being used as a tool to be exploited. $$ Those people have no heart or soul. IMO

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What triggered your awaking?

by Fadeaway1962 in

i was listening to a radio show about a jw women who had been disfellowshiped , her daughter cut off all contact ,must admit at the time i thought so what.. then this man phoned up and explained he was disfellowshiped for asking about jws being ngo in the united nations during 90s till early 2000s when a newspaper exposed them , i still thought he's a apostate but looked it up found the article then found this forum and even more info..

caves

For me it was a radio show as well. It was in Fayettiville Arkansas on the rock station.

I recorded it as it aired and they took callers at the end. I stupidly called in (or looking back not so stupidly) and got on air. I was defending the jws. I got hit with calm logic. Brain exploded! The crack started. That was in 2001.

In truth, when I was about 8 I remember thinking that if I was the devil I would hide under the guise of "true worship" to mislead. Years later I came across Paul Harvey's speech of 'If I were the devil'. It clicked more.

Then Crisis of Conscience. Which I read several times over.

An elder also said a comment at a book study he was presiding over where he flat out said that there no way only 6-7 million people would be saved(late90s). He quickly moved on with the study, but I never forgot it. He and his wife faded shortly after but I didn't know at the time that's what he was doing.

Long story short, it was little cracks over several decades, until there was a gaping hole I could not ignore.

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Name one POSITIVE thing you took from your experience as a Witness

by geodude in

i was thinking about this at work the other day, and realized the one positive thing i can truly credit the jws with: .

i have no fear of public speaking.

i was a shy kid, fat, clumsy, with crooked glasses and worse teeth, who wore hand-me-downs in one of the wealthiest counties in all of america, who sat still while classmates got up to salute the flag or recite the pledge of allegiance.

caves

Food recipes from people of different cultures that I still use.

Speed reading.

Sign language, though I have forgotten a lot of that. But I can still have a brief convo with a deaf person.

Learned how to read and write Spanish at the Spanish speaking khs.

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Do you think there will be panic buying of food, guns ect?

by JimmyYoung in

i wonder if there will be panic buying of food, guns, gas ect due to the corona virus.

what do you guys think?.

caves

JimmyYoung- A watchtower is about useless but for a fire starter.

They make crappy fire starters. I lived off the grid for many years and the mags didn't burn well as kindling. Maybe it was satan keeping it from burning. (That 'ole devil' trying reverse psychology on me. All those stories I heard of "wordly" books and stuff not burning because of satan. Uhg Lol.)

Keeping extra food stored is always a good idea. I have for the last 15 years, been about 1-2 years of canned food goods ahead. I rotate them in storage as I use. If nothing else it has come in real handy when money is tight.

I also have what I call 'if the fit hits the shan' backpacks. One in the car, one where I live and a couple more in storage. In them I have fire starters,lamp oil, flint, wicks, lighters, lite cookware, knifes, compass,good jeans, thick shirts first aid, medication I take "that gets rotated as well" batteries 'also rotated' as I use them, flash lights, soap, water purifying tablets ect. Always have a windup radio w/ usb that can charge your phone if no power. It sounds like a pain to keep up with but its become a habit now so maybe 30 min a month spend on it at this point. I hardly ever tell anyone anymore because people can associate that with 'crazy'. I just call it being prepared, on an 'If' scenario.

I had cut back actually. I did have enough canned foods for about 4 years but the past few years I've dwindled it down to less. Always keep the 'What if" backpacks in different places.

I suggest also if one lives anywhere near the woods or mountains to buy a book specific to your area on edible plants, you never know if you might need it and its kind of fun, to me at least. It gives me a little piece of mind to have these things.

A family, or even a single person outing with nothing but a 'what if bag' for a few nights in the woods can be fun. Making your own fishing hooks/ lours is easy and fun.

Maybe I lived off the grid to long. It seems woven into me now.

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Please help

by Dano3456 in

jw
friends

my wife and i are not religious nor do we want to be.

we are very set in our spiritual beliefs.

we have worked with a jw who's family have been like a part of our family for 6 years.

caves

When I was a jw, my ex wife and I would take the neighbors kids to the jw meetings with us. In my mind I was hoping the parents would join eventually. One of the parents did go with us and immediately said after it was over that "this was some brainwashing bullshit, I don't want my child going here". They actually stopped talking to us. And thank goodness for them doing that. I would have hated to have gotten them in that mess.

I'm not sure what to do in your case. Except make sure your children are safe. Ask them ( your kids) questions about their visits. It doesn't sound like you want the friendship to end. So just stay aware and keep an eye on your little ones. Set boundaries if you haven't. If you do set a few boundaries, don't be surprised if they are violated. Jws do that in regards their 'spiritual superiority complex '. They feel entitled to do this because they believe that they have the only true religion and everyone else will be destroyed.

You said it was a lot to process. I bet. It seems it would behoove you to process and research.

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Amazon Prime - Lorena (Bobbitt)

by RandomUserName3500 in

never knew there was a jw connection, but episode 1 clearly shows awake magazines.

caves

eyeuse2badub- LOL... to funny.

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Why Did Obama win the Nobel Peace Prize in 2009?

by JW_Researcher in

jw
friends

while even non-peaceful people have been awarded the peace prize (e.g.

arafat, kissinger), i am confused as to how obama could possibly have won the award one year after being the first term junior senator from illinois with zero “peace” experience (other than his ‘well-articulated’ rhetoric)..

reading the obama-pining on a couple of posts made me reexamine my view of barry’s presidency..

caves

Skin color.

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Who’s The Best Actor/Actress? Who Is Overrated??

by minimus in

jw
friends

one of my favorite actors is robert de niro.

some of his later movies were so so but overall i think he was outstanding.

meryl streep, i just never thought she was anything exciting yet people say she’s the best actress of all time.

caves

Jake Gyllenhaal! I can't stand him. Overrated!

Sorry to say, but even though I like him... Samuel L. Jackson, overrated! Only good for saying "motherfucker".

Johnny Depp, Overrated!

Jack Nicholson, great actor , imo.

Nichole Kidman, great actress, imo.

Bette Davis, great actress

Did I say I hate Jake Gyllenhall.

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Do Any Of You Still Think Trump Was Working With The Russians?

by minimus in

jw
friends

it seems some people still maintain that trump will try to get help from the russians “again”..

caves

recovering-Just as proof of how powerful Facebook political Influences can be we just need to look to the Arab spring. It changed the face of mideast politics . Look at how many middle eastern countries where involved in either civil wars or the to changes in rulership during this period.

Facebook, rather Mark Z did an experiment on a few small little country's several years ago and cut FB off for the most part for them, Not only that but tweaked portions of it. The political system went into ciaos. Let me see what I can find...https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-41801071

That is just one example. I cant find the one I was looking for but it may be in the article somewhere. Its Mark Z that is colluding. Haven't you noticed that since the rise of FB the fit has hit the shan.

This has nothing to do with Trump.

On that note, politicians use the platform to get there crappy messages out. And people spread their own misinformation on FB and fb for the most part lets them.

Did Russia interfere? Yes, Yes they did. BUT WHO LET THEM? Mark Zukenfucker! The richest man on the planet that could literally take down the entire planet with a few keystrokes. Why is this NOT the issue?

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How do you feel about the JWS religion after being out more than 10, 20, 30 years ?

by Finkelstein in

myself being a born in and completely out for more than 30 years i see more of the damage of what this religious cult causes people .. part of myself leaving had to do with the psychological harm it was causing people back in the 1970's, one guy my age at the time hung himself out anxiety and depression.. the numerous suicides that have occurred in numbers is shocking to say the least.. then there is the many families breaking up.. marriages breaking apart because one member decides to leave the jws.. the deaths of members or their children from refusing a blood transfusion.. this hit me personally when my mother refused a bt when she was ill in the hospital and died.. over the years and observing all of these things reminds me how glad and fortunate i left when i did but i do find it responsible to others to expose this religious cult to what can happen to people who get involved with it and that's what i've been doing on this forum and elsewhere.

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caves

I've been out for almost 2 decades. With a brief back in back out a few times. It was only over a year ago that the rest became dismantled.

I have to drive by a kh everyday. I check in with myself sometimes to see where my thoughts are when I see the kh. Lately I notice I feel indifferent. Not mad, not empathetic just nothing much. I do have pity for them. And honestly I think that some people belong there, because many jws believe so deeply that it could quite literally kill them to 'wake up'.

I view them as sort of a large corporate company I 'worked' at/for, but got fired from and blacklisted from rehire. Which seems just about right to me.

caves

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Jake Gyllenhaal! I can't stand him. Overrated!