Apparently jehovah's holy spirit doesn't work at the kh anymore. They just don't make 'holy spirit' like they used to. Shucks.
Posts by caves
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29How Are JWs Affected By The Coronavirus?
by minimus inwill meetings and conventions be canceled?
the ministry?
shepherding calls, get togethers?
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Why did you have so many jobs???
by Terry inwhy did i have so many jobs?.
i became a velcro salesman, but i couldn't stick with it.and besides - it was a ripoff.. i tried my hand at a career in tennis, but it wasn't my racket and i was too high strung.. i was a masseur for a while, but i seemed to rub people the wrong way.next i got a job at a pool company, but the work was too draining.then?i was a historian, but i couldn't see a future in it.i took a job as an elevator operator—the job had its ups and downs, and i got the shaft.. i became a banker, but i had an affair with boss's wife because she promised to hold my interest right up to the moment of withdrawal.. i just lost my job as a psychic.
i did not see that coming.if a job’s worth doing, it’s too hard.. i quit my job working for nike.
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caves
These are great.
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My wife PIMI wife said today...." The Tribulation has started"
by goingthruthemotions inmy wife pimi wife said today...." the tribulation has started" i was like wtf... i know things are bad.
but...... we have had other pandamics and market crashes in the past.
1889: russian flu 360,000 perished.
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caves
That sucks! But very predictable. One of the last few times I spoke with a jw relative (long time ago now) they said the society (gb) is giving "hints" that the great tribulation has started.
That's all they do now is "HINT" at it having started and let the flocks minds run wild.
So many other denominations think this is the great trib too. All.The.Time.
I'm glad all you heard was crickets. Hopefully you shut it down for now.
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the Mormon Church has $70,000,000,000
by neat blue dog inhttps://www.sltrib.com/religion/2020/03/07/lds-church-discloses/.
it turns out the lds church has about $38b in stocks and mutual funds from major companies such as apple, microsoft, amazon, walmart and others.
they also have numerous dummy corporations to hold assests with a combined value of $32b.
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caves
The WTS has plenty of money. More than just a few billion. Once you start digging you find many millions here, many millions there . Investments in tobacco, tires, medical equipment, military, technology, JPMorgan, and so much more. Tobacco and military alone would put them in the billions. Add tech and JP plus whatever else and they won't be going broke anytime soon. Things that can easily stay tied up (how convenient) but pay mad dividends.
They most certainly don't need members money. But every million helps.
Those are the things you can find with relative ease. I have heard investments in pharmaceutical and oil as well but haven't found anything to back that up.
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How Are JWs Affected By The Coronavirus?
by minimus inwill meetings and conventions be canceled?
the ministry?
shepherding calls, get togethers?
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caves
Doubting bro-Maybe whoever runs that Texas Bethel Tours site can use the time to study English.
I grew up in Texas. That was good sentence structure and use of wording 'for them there parts'. lol
I would imagine rumors are all over about this being the start of the great tribulation. The gb would probably not say but allow the thoughts AND rumors to spread. It helps them.
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Covid-19 (Coronavirus) - Status Update Thread
by Simon inthis topic is to focus on status updates & advice (no opinion or politics please).. status.
latest status is that it's serious, probably isn't going to be contained and most large companies are making contingency plans, cancelling large events etc... which i don't think would happen if it was just people being alarmist.
the incubation period means it may have already spread further and infected many more people than are currently known, so expect jumps in the numbers over the coming days and weeks.. tracking.
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caves
This is one of, if not the best comprehensive compilations covering COVID-19 I have seen on the internet.
If only the media (all media) would/ could unite for the first time to say and show something of this nature and continue doing it through this global crisis then perhaps the hysteria would not be as impactful as it is right now. A pipe dream, I know.
Right now to get information I have to fight through so much other bull when I look up info that its unsettling to say the extreme least. What takes me hours to find and try to put together, is all right here. It is really appreciated.
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I met an Exorcist
by Terry ini like to ride my bicycle to starbucks.
when weather permits i sit on the patio and write in the sunshine.a pesky crow i call edgar usually arrives to beg (or steal).that's all you need to know before we begin._____________________.
location exterior : the patio of starbuckstime: 11 amcast:lou : media / news analyst, religious fundamentalistterry: crow magnet and know-it-alledgar: spawn of satan________________.
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caves
Question: "My way or the highway? So to speak."
Elder: "(Laughing) That would be Jehovah's statement; not mine."
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No feeling of being a human being under all that camouflage.
JW's are forced to live a double life; one public and one private.
Otherwise they'd go bonkers.___________
Any jw lurkers? You know this is true.
I can only hope to aspire to speak in this way and should I live longer, that is my goal.
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The Holy Spirit
by Acer21 inif the holy spirit is an "active force", how can it be grieved (ephesians 4:30)?.
in other words, according to the jw's, one can make jehovah's "force" sorrowful?
this is an example of how the jw leaders have perverted the gospel in translation, and have put the jw's in a position in which they must perform intellectual gymnastics in order to maintain their false position.
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caves
Still Totally ADD- Thank you. I'm actually owning my story, because its just a story now and doesn't define me.Like I used to think. This past year I have healed in so many ways. I used to get triggered daily about jws but now it happens maybe every couple of months for a few minutes. That's been the current pattern. It will continue.
Sometimes I comment on something or dive head first into an emotion so I can walk though it instead of running from it. That comment I made was the walking though it. I had a flash of the past and walked though it via typing. It doesn't have a grip on me. And if it does get like that where I feel that I'm gripped in fear or caught in a trigger I try to remember that I'm safe now, and also importantly I have a voice and am cutting in my teeth quite nicely.
Lots of growth, more to go. Much better than when I came on here scared a couple of years ago.
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Please help
by Dano3456 inmy wife and i are not religious nor do we want to be.
we are very set in our spiritual beliefs.
we have worked with a jw who's family have been like a part of our family for 6 years.
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caves
Dano- We said what we had to say and everything seems fine.
Ummm, sure it is. If it just happened , which it sounds like it. You can bet they are sizing you up on the "friendship" scale. BUT....
What I'd want to know is how in a month from now your "friendship" with these jws are. Unless you happened to run across the rare, almost endangered type of jws, they are playing the 'we are super laid back, look we aren't what people say of us, jws'. Its an act that jws are trained to do in an odd sort of insidious way so that you will "come around". Remember ONLY they have the truth. You do not. That is how they see it.
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The Holy Spirit
by Acer21 inif the holy spirit is an "active force", how can it be grieved (ephesians 4:30)?.
in other words, according to the jw's, one can make jehovah's "force" sorrowful?
this is an example of how the jw leaders have perverted the gospel in translation, and have put the jw's in a position in which they must perform intellectual gymnastics in order to maintain their false position.
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caves
After I got dfed the second time and was trying to get reinstated, I asked an elder what a sin against the holy spirit was. All he did was look at me and went "um hum" attitude and all, LIKE I HAD ASKED BECAUSE I COMMITTED THE SIN. I asked him why he said that in a dismissive tone . He brushed me off. Needles to say I was infuriated.
"context- I still thought it was the truth & 1 1/2 years trying to get reinstated '- I went to another elder and said that if I was ever treated that way in the kh again there would be 'a hell of a lot more than a sin against the holy spirit to worry about in that particular kh.' I also said that 'if I had, wouldn't jehovah be capable of keeping me away from the kh?' He fortunately was one of the few mellow elders(didn't matter at that point) and apologized but said the other elder must have misunderstood me. I said "No he didn't . I spoke in plain english, but If he EVER does that again I you will need the cops because I will break his neck."
Damn, I had forgotten about that. It was quite the shit show after the meeting and man did the cong leave fast. I was livid. They did threaten to call the cops as I was not backing down. I had a few aces 'if thats what one would call them' in my pocket , the cover up of my molestation and I sure used it loudly! I did used my uncle being a cop to my advantage. Also, I never told his (the pedo) daughter about the molestation and she went to the same hall. I said something along the lines of 'I'm dfed what do I have to lose? Its not like you guys haven't been dragging your ass to reinstate me. 1 1/2 years , me writing letters, there every meeting.' A more highlighted probably more studied wt that most.
The last I heard of that elder he was imprisoned for guess what... pedophilia. He got out of jail and died not long after. Good riddance. But with a lovely jw funeral about how wonderful he was.
I cant believe I forgot about that. & interesting trigger for me.
As I wrote that I could feel my blood start to boil. I think I blocked that on purpose. It was fucking traumatizing.
Anyway, holy spirit is nothing but breathing oxygen to me.
Apparently god doesn't know how to use it or what its for since god does NOTHING for a situation that was created by god. Which is horse shit because god is a figment of the imagination.