Posts by Elena

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

by Simon in

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uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

Elena

Yes but he didn’t know he would be promoting staying physically in the congregation for the protection especially for young people from messing up their lives the way he has messed up his.

I wonder if he is honest was he more happy physically in? Would he have had a happier life staying JWlite and mentally out.

would his family still be together? Would he have better friends and quality of life? Would his children have a happier childhood and future than the one they have now?

the answer to all these is most definitely yes

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Now the Baptist Church is waking up to the Watchtower's scandals

by raymond frantz in

https://www.jwupdates.com/post/jehovah-s-witnesses-sue-norway-after-registration-revoked.

the following article appeared on baptist standard's online edition in january 18, 2024. other christian denominations are starting to pay attention to the legal cases against the watchtower and write about it.

like the watchtower did in yester years with catholic csa cases.. oslo district court in norway is home to an ongoing trial after norway deregistered the jehovah’s witnesses last year.

Elena

the county governor said in a press release that unless Jehovah’s Witnesses would “rectify the conditions that led to the refusal of state subsidies,” they would lose registration, which they did a few months later, in December.

What would Watchtower need to rectify? New light incoming on shunning/two witnesses rules ect perhaps to get the money flowing back in?

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Retirement savings

by TxNVSue2023 in

what's the current jw stance on retirement savings?

i know it changed.

pre1975 it was an attitude of "don't worry about retirement, this system is ending soon".

Elena

They have vaults full of gold and silver?
How interesting, where are these vaults and what do you think WT intends to do with this wealth prior to Armageddon

They have secret bunkers with lots of survival supplies. And yes they do have lots of gold and silver built up. So again the best advice is to do what they do, ignore what they say.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

by Simon in

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friends

uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

Elena

“Since Lloyd elbowed his way to prominence in the ex-JW movement the Watchtower can point to him and say to the JWs: Look what happens to a person when they leave "the truth." Do you want to become like them? Why would you want to believe the lies they promote?

Yes Lloyd unwittingly promotes staying JWlite for the protection you get staying physically in even if mentally out.

Lloyd makes ex-JWs look bad and the Watchtower look like a prophet, since according to them when one leaves "the truth" they usually sink into a debauched life just like Lloyd. So the question needs to be asked: How many wavering JWs have decided to stay in the borg because him?“

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Did Jesus Die On a Stake or a Cross?

by Sea Breeze in

dominic enyart exposes watchtower deception regarding their demonization of the cross.

information packed.

interesting take on paganism as well.

Elena

“There were various styles- some punishments involved a simple stake, others used a cross beam. Some people were hung upside down, others in different ways for amusement. Some used ropes and not nails, Sometimes there was a seat- or horn that protruded into the persons private areas, to make the ordeal more excruciating.

There is evidence in a crucified skeleton from around the time of Jesus that had the nails driven into the sides of the ankles and therefore, no footrest was used.

In summary, there were various methods of crucifixion and and no one can say for certain which crucifixion method was used on Jesus and it doesnt really matter. Even the gospels are not eyewitness accounts.”

There is talk that David was kind of crucified when he was a younger man going through his hard time with his enemies, it obviously didn’t kill him.

this was what he was talking about in Psalms 22;16

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Where is Tony?

by Athanasius in

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on february 22, 2023, anthony morris iii was officially removed from the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.

a few months later it was revealed that the watchtower bought him a house in lumberton, north carolina.. however, and correct me if i am wrong, since leaving the gb nobody has reported seeing tony attending jw meetings or participating in field service.

in fact nobody has reported seeing him anywhere, not even at a local liquor store.

Elena

It’s always a bit puzzling when a so called anointed one gets senile dementia. It happened a lot back in the day, they put it down to wild talk.

I heard of a story of an old anointed Bethel brother who was in hospital over the memorial so some brothers were assigned to go do the memorial with him. He didn’t know his name let alone what day of the week it was, they tried to give him the emblems as he had been taking them for several decades but he kept pushing them away. I think this happened for a few years before he died in the Bethel infirmary.

Lots of questions were raised, was he still anointed? Was he counted or not as he didn’t actually take them?

if he was going to be among kings and priests along with Jesus then why did he live for years in a senile state? This has happened with many over the years.

Is this the case with Tony? Will other old members of the GB get senile dementia and if so will they be removed as Tony was?

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Is there “new light” on 1914?

by wallsofjericho in

i’m hearing paraphrasing like “we just don’t know” .

is this regarding 1914?

or micheal the arch angel?.

Elena

A single line of evidence that disproves 607 is that Nebuchadnezzar was not king yet, he was king 20yrs later when he really destroyed Jerusalem.

If you disagree with this and agree with the JWs then you disagree with every expert both historians and scholars

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I have some questions about the Org.!

by KerryKing in

are any or all of the gb from jewish descent?.

why are they so fascinated with following ancient jewish 'principles' ?.

isa 43:10, 44:8 ' you are my witnesses ' which they based their religious identity on, jehovah's witnesses, yet those verses address the jews, not christians, which they profess to be.. jesus said in ac 1:8 'you will be witnesses of me ', .

Elena

The GB are not Jewish they say the Bible says the Jew killed Jesus and now they are no longer Gods chosen people and the Bible says I will give it to a new people

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Fading is better then completely leaving...comments?

by Witness 007 in

i got the internet in my house and realised it's all lies....but as a pioneer/ministerial servant i chose to fade.

see i had family and friends who were fully strict witnesses.

so i played the poor lost soul brother who is not sure what's happening.

Elena

Should help each other out regardless but the scriptures say especially those relating in the faith

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Is there “new light” on 1914?

by wallsofjericho in

i’m hearing paraphrasing like “we just don’t know” .

is this regarding 1914?

or micheal the arch angel?.

Elena

Where does Sam say that about about Tony?