Posts by Clambake

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Do JW's use the bible to preach anymore?

by lostinthought in

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so...i totally stopped going to meetings two years ago.

since then, i have gotten married and moved into my husband's home.

his father and mother also live there.

Clambake

I remember studying with an Elder and the topic “the Israel of god “ came up. He explained to me these are the magical Christians that would rule with Christ in the heavens and the only ones today who can understand the bible (before the GB anointed themselves alone).

So I explained the book of Galatians to the elder. Basically Paul is writing the letter as a warning to the church in Galatia (sp) on the tip of Spain to beware of the so called Jewish Christians that were spreading the false teachings about the obedience to Mosaic Law being essential to your salvation. You are saved though Christ alone and blah blah blah. All basic Christian teachings.

So the book ends with something like blessing to them and the Israel of God. I don’t know the exact phrase.

Judging from the theme of the book wouldn’t you think the Israel of god might have meant, Jewish Christians who followed basic Christian teachings? (Christ alone, saved by faith).

So what you actually want me to believe was Paul was talking about Gentile Christians and heavenly hopers who were not supposed to be born pass 1935 and now are recognized as only seven men in 2012 ?

That is what Paul was talking about. He was dumbfounded.

I soon realized he didn’t know anything other Watchtower propaganda . He had no idea of common themes and how books of the bible relate to each.

He also never talked to me again.

Not that I have a masters degree in divinity but I think the average JW is dangerously uneducated when it comes to teaching the bible.

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Double Standards in the JW world

by nevaagain in

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no other organization has so many written and unwritten rules like the jws.

so it comes to no suprise that there are a lot of double standards.. even though the end is "near", wt is building new and bigger offices.

while the small jw should live in a closet and should make plans to have a bigger house in the new world.

Clambake

We have a doctor in our cong. He is straight from Africa and is most likely a born in.

He doesn’t do any field service (too be fair he works some crazy hours).

He does no public speaking

He hits about 50% meeting attendance (again long hours at work.)

His kids are enrolled in pee wee hockey.

Heck, my wife just had a surgery and he didn’t even send her with any official WTS directive. Just a note saying the patient may have strong views on blood.

The guy is treated like a total rock star. It is embarrassing how the elders kiss his ass. Now if that was joe rank and file……………………………you would be marked as bad association.

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Earliest Life on Earth Pushed Back Another 300 Million Years

by cofty in

researchers have found evidence of ancient microorganisms that lived in what is now western australia at least 4.1 billion years ago.

if confirmed, the discovery suggests that life originated on earth 300 million years earlier than previously thought.

.... the ancient microorganisms in question were found trapped inside zircons formed from magma in western australia.

Clambake

God

I hate when people fake an interest in all things science just to argue with theists. A thread like this is nothing more than bait to suck someone into a circular go nowhere argument where you can mock and ridicule someone’s beliefs.

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things you dont hear: Protest against Jehovah's Witnesses event in central Israel turns violent

by goingthruthemotions in

it funny how the cult will imbelish on somethings and others they just sweep under the rug and you never hear anything about it again.

i was just doing some searches on the internet and stumbled on this.

i had heard that the dub's were trying to get people to go to israel and then you never hear anything after that.

Clambake

Jw theology is quite anti-sematic in nature once you start to peel some of the layers back.

The last thing the Israelis need is more people telling its young people not to join the armed forces. The survival of the Israel really depends on the draft.

In Israel, JW are not just annoying, they are a threat to national security.

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If there is anything to bible prophecy, keep an eye out on Israel

by EndofMysteries in

what will be the end game whether in a few years, our lifetime, or hundreds + years from now.

bible prophecy did say israel / jews would be scattered then eventually brought back.

russell was declaring that and it was believed before being changed shortly before it happened.

Clambake

Why are you here?

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If there is anything to bible prophecy, keep an eye out on Israel

by EndofMysteries in

what will be the end game whether in a few years, our lifetime, or hundreds + years from now.

bible prophecy did say israel / jews would be scattered then eventually brought back.

russell was declaring that and it was believed before being changed shortly before it happened.

Clambake

Jws have no idea the new testament is the story of god and the jews and god and his church.

Once you understand the relationship , the rapture and how Israel actually means Israel tin the new testament the end times seem somewhat plausible with armegeddon most likely being a group of nations set to destroy the nation of Israel.

Who knows. All is I know it is a fun way to both pisses jws and atheists off at the ssame time

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If there is anything to bible prophecy, keep an eye out on Israel

by EndofMysteries in

what will be the end game whether in a few years, our lifetime, or hundreds + years from now.

bible prophecy did say israel / jews would be scattered then eventually brought back.

russell was declaring that and it was believed before being changed shortly before it happened.

Clambake

Does anyone ever notice how the know it all atheists sounds like Elders when dealing with this subject. No No No, that’s not true………..blah blah blah.

I have many a discussion with Elders about this subject. Without going into too much detail it is all comes down to this ridiculous complex bamboozle where the society or Spiritual Israel ( shit I have a hard time keeping up with the new light ) replaces the jewish people. It all seems somewhat borderline anti-sematic sometimes.

I have never really got a straight answer on how a group of nations roughly centered in the middle east is going to attack all the Jehovah Witnesses in the end times.

I know there is a certain level of interruption that has to be used when reading the bible and I am hardly on rapture watch but it is interesting how it seems to be coming together.

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Just missed an opportunity to see Richard Dawkins speak at a small venue.

by cappytan in

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richard dawkins had two speaking engagements at the local unitarian universalist church last week.. only just heard about it today!.

guess i should have been more conscious of my spiritual need and i wouldn't have missed it.

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Clambake

I wonder he was speaking about the importance of aborting down's syndrome children. In this day and age there is no excuse for one of those to be born.

I find Richard Dawkins to be the Joel Osteen of the science community. He is all fluff and opinion to sell books to suckers so they can feel morally superior to the average joe. Basically the same hook the jws use.

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Has anyone noticed how in the October JW Broadcast, Losch encourages good works towards ALL people?

by Tenacious in

i can't help but notice how this past year alone has seen the gb start to turn more towards the teachings of the christ instead of peddling their falsities.. study articles have talked in length about the fine works of christ.

assemblies have been dedicated to speaking about christ.

and this month's broadcast is about doing good to others copying the example christ left for us.. what's more shocking is that losch actually says kids should speak, share, and even give food and clothing to non-believers!!

Clambake

What a load of shit. It's not like the wts has any mission or outreach centers.

If you want to help the poor you would have to get involved with the false religions of christedom which could get you disfellowshipped.

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Advance Directives and the JW Patient

by Lee Elder in

advance directives are complex legal instruments and widely misunderstood by both physicians and their patients.

with most jehovah's witnesses their is a significant level of misinformation, and in many cases coercion or undue influence exerted on the patient.

physicians need to be aware of this and always meet privately with the patient to educate them and then ascertain their true wishes.

Clambake

I my wife just had a baby and all she had in her file was a letter stating she was one of jehovah witness and she had strong views on blood. It didn't look like it was official.

Stupid thing is her doctor typed who happened to be a jw also. It wasn't signed either.

Luckily nothing happened. Still if something happened, I really wonder what would of happened.