Richie
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IMPALEMENT OR CRUCIFIXION?
by BluesBrother inhttp://www.uncc.edu/jdtabor/crucifixion.html
given the topicality of the passion of the christ, it got me thinking again about the manner of his death... i had always been led to believe , in my days as a dub , that death on a stake was far more likely and logical because to be suspended with spread arms would place too much centre of gravity in the centre and the body would pitch forward.. given that jesus took several hours to die, i found the following quote from .the above site interesting ..
"physiological response to crucifixion
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IMPALEMENT OR CRUCIFIXION?
by BluesBrother inhttp://www.uncc.edu/jdtabor/crucifixion.html
given the topicality of the passion of the christ, it got me thinking again about the manner of his death... i had always been led to believe , in my days as a dub , that death on a stake was far more likely and logical because to be suspended with spread arms would place too much centre of gravity in the centre and the body would pitch forward.. given that jesus took several hours to die, i found the following quote from .the above site interesting ..
"physiological response to crucifixion
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Richie
Just check the scriptures which indicate clearly that Jesus was crucified: John 20:25 says: So the other disciples told him, "We have seen the Lord!" But he (Thomas) said to them, "Unless I see the NAIL MARKS in his HANDS and put my finger where the NAILS were, and put my hand into his side, I will not believe it"
You see that these words are written in plural (more than one) and especially the word "NAILS" is incriminating to the witnesses as that word proves that there must have been 2 (two) nails, meaning one nail in each hand.
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New Announcement At The Memorial?
by dawn27 ini was just wondering if anyone has heard anything about an announcement to be made at the memorial this year?
my family is repeatedly pressuring me to go and the newest approach is that they've heard about an announcement, never made before, that concerns innactive ones or ones who have fallen away,, that is all that they would tell me.
are they going to come find and disfellowship us unless we go back or can we now come back "no questions asked" (yah right)?
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Richie
My daughter phoned me to invite me over to the Memorial. I politely told her that I will NOT be going to the meeting.
I am born again and there is no way that I will get any benefit at all. So why go? Whatever the Borg teaches is not in line with sound and truthful doctrine and I do not want to waste my time to listen to tainted teachings which only serve their agenda! Besides, I would partake so it would only embarrass them anyways...
Richie :*)
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Richie
Martha Stewart is probably going to jail for doing something millions of people do everyday. She made a decision based upon inside knowledge, and then she lied about it, something else millions of people do every day.
Martha Stewart's biggest crime was timing. The powers that be needed to set an example, and who better than one of the most celebrated and successful self-made women in America.
The amount of money Stewart saved on the trade that did her in amounted to little more than pocket-change for her. But it wasn't the money. It was the principal. According to the charges against her; she cheated. And worse; she lied about cheating.
It's quite something that the holier-than-thou people who nailed her to the wall are probably as bad as her, and more likely worse.
Everyone in big business cheats! And the "little people" (the jurors) who sat in judgment of her are probably not all that Kosher either.
Everyone who is an insider makes decisions based upon inside information. If nothing else, the stock market is a private club for the rich and well connected. For everyone else, it's a very well regulated casino.
What Martha Stewart is accused and found guilty of doing is simply the way big business is handled at the upper levels. For her to have been found guilty is an indictment on the entire corrupt investment system. Unfortunately for her, she has been fingered to pay for everyone else's sins.
For the conviction based upon lying to regulators: Big Deal!
Show me the "successful" politician from the city councilor all the way up to the President of the United States of America who doesn't lie.
Clinton lied under oath about "not" having sex with that woman.
Everyone reading this editorial is guilty of lying and "cheating". How many times do we try to buy services and products under-the-table to avoid paying the taxes?
To many people, Martha Stewart might be an Uppity Bitch. So what?
She has created enormous wealth for herself and others by taking risks, being creative and working hard. She has created products which make life easier and more pleasant for the masses. And she is responsible for creating tens of thousands of jobs around her products, books and television productions.
Martha Stewart is the REAL DEAL. She is one of the very few rich people who actually gives value for the money she receives, unlike the thieves at Enron, and the thousands of mini Enrons throughout the USA.
By putting Martha Stewart through the wringer, the SEC and the courts have done enormous damage to the millions of people who have benefited from Martha Stewart's hard work and creativity.
If I knew Martha Stewart, I would probably not like her for her aloof and aggressive style. But I would never resent her success. She is a contributor, rather than a parasite like so many other people who take so much and give back so little.
When all of this first happened, I predicted that Martha Stewart will come back bigger and stronger. I still stand by that prediction.
Even though the cowards (like CBS) who made so much money from Martha Stewart, are like rats jumping ship before it goes under, many others will stand by her and her products.
A year or so in prison will give Martha Stewart the chance to reflect, rest and come back with a vengeance. She has risen form the ashes so many times, I don't think she would know how to do anything else.
The people who have passed judgment on Martha Stewart will always be the "little people" they are, while Martha Stewart will always be Martha Stewart, the icon she deservedly is. SHE WILL BE BACK!Richie :*)
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FORMER JW ELDERS, on JWD, 2004 LIST
by jst2laws init has been difficult getting my old database to accept new info and then there was no way to edit the old thread so this is it on a new thread.
this is a follow up from the older: .
yrs bethel
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Richie
Undecided,
Just wanted to check something: you said that you were an elder for 6 years and a PO for 8 years. Shouldn't that be the other way around, as I thought you can only be a PO if you are an elder. I know you can be a school overseer and still be a ministerial servant though. Just wondering...
Richie :*)
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FORMER JW ELDERS, on JWD, 2004 LIST
by jst2laws init has been difficult getting my old database to accept new info and then there was no way to edit the old thread so this is it on a new thread.
this is a follow up from the older: .
yrs bethel
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Richie
Please add me to the list too.
I was an elder for 3 years -
Richie :*)
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Hamas Founder DEAD
by Yerusalyim inare we ignoring the fact that israel finally took out ahmed yassin, the founder of hamas, which has killed so many innocent people?.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4575552/.
my opinion...what took so long?
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Richie
Scotsman, the Palestinians don't want peace, that's why they are poor.....please read this:
If Mahmoud Abbas (aka Abu Mazen), the new Palestinian Prime Minister appears to be heading for real peace with Israel, he will be killed. It's as simple as that.
The men who have everything to lose if Israel and the Palestinians make peace won't let it happen. With a real peace between Israel and the Palestinians there will no longer be a free rein for these bad actors to do their stuff.
Without a free rein, there will be actual expectations upon them to provide good governance.
It's easy to always claim that poverty amongst the Palestinians is the fault of Israel. As is every thing else that is bad. But, with peace, REAL PEACE: who will the incompetents amongst the Palestinian Authority have to blame for their shortcomings?
What about the 40,000 Arafat gunmen, aka the Palestinian police? Will they simply lay down their weapons and find honest employment? Don't bet on it. These guys like their guns and their bully-boy privileges.
What about the bloated Palestinian bureaucracy? Will they stop living high on the hog and subject themselves to accountability? Not likely. Jet-setting is quite addictive.
How about the fanatical religious idiots? Will they agree to live beside the Western Jewish Infidels? Only if they want to lose whatever influence they have on the people who are presently cowed into buying their religious dogma.
And let's not forget about the close to four million Palestinians languishing in these so-called refugee camps. They won't accept a peace deal that doesn't give them a "right of return" to what is now Israel.
Remember, it's now three generations of Palestinians from the "camps" who have been fed a constant diet of Jew and Israel hating, with the promise that one day "soon", they could go back to their former homes and the homes of their ancestors in pre 1967 Israel, to claim what they gave up in 1948.
Israel will NEVER agree to give these Palestinians a "right of return". If Israel did, it would be the same as committing national suicide.
Just because the Americans kicked the crap out of the Iraqis, and are scaring the Syrians, the Iranians and just about everyone else in the Middle East, it changes nothing. It only makes the Western haters, thugs and religious fanatics more careful.
The Middle Eastern Arabs still hate Israel, Jews, the West and specifically America with the same, if not greater vehemence as they did before the Iraqis caved like a house built of cards. Nothing in this light has changed.
Then there is Yasser Arafat.
Arafat created the modern day Palestinians. He guided them into the misery they presently find themselves. And he revels in the power. He is not going to give any of this up without a fight.
Being the boss of the Palestinians has made Arafat a very rich and famous guy. He likes it.
We will know that Mahmoud Abbas is serious when either he is killed, or Arafat is killed or driven out of the Palestinian territories.
For Abbas to honor his commitment to the Rad Map, it will require his commitment to fight a civil war against all of the enemies who have too much to lose if peace ever becomes a reality between the Palestinians and the Israelis.
That's when we will know. And even then, there will always be enormous pressures upon whomever leads the Palestinian people. There will always be those who have the capacity to undo whatever peace treaty is done. And peace at best will probably mean only fewer Jewish murder victims at the hands of Arab terrorists.
In the meantime, Israel should continue upon the path to peace, understanding that this most current path is no less perilous than the previous one called Oslo.
I trust the Middle Eastern Arabs to always be true to form, culture and nature. And even though everything looks pretty promising today, Israel should continue to build the wall. This is a worn path already traveled far too many times.Richie :*)
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Hamas Founder DEAD
by Yerusalyim inare we ignoring the fact that israel finally took out ahmed yassin, the founder of hamas, which has killed so many innocent people?.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4575552/.
my opinion...what took so long?
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Richie
This is from an editorial I came across which I fully agree with:
The Western Democratized World could spare us their crocodile tears over the violent death of the murderous scum, Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, the father, founder and "spiritual" leader of the Palestinian TERRORIST group Hamas.
Yassin has been described as a quadriplegic who was assassinated by an Israeli missile fired from an Apache helicopter. So what if he was a quadriplegic and mostly blind? His hands were soaked with the blood of innocent Jews. Men, women and children.
ESPECIALLY CHILDREN.
Killing the most vulnerable and innocent was his stock in trade. And if the so bereaved international community can take a breath from their sobbing over this thug's death for a moment or two, they might also consider that he was DIRECTLY responsible for the murder of young Palestinians.
It was through his Koranic exhortations that drove young Palestinians to commit suicide in the act of murdering Jews.
Where's the world's condemnation for that?
Last night, I watched an interview with Hanan Ashwari (the US educated Palestinian mouthpiece) where she repeated the same old mantra about humiliation, occupation and all the other great Palestinian platitudes. But what caught my attention was when she said:
"We (Palestinians) have a right to defend ourselves".
I want to know how murdering Jews on busses, or at a Pizza Parlour, or at a Passover Seder, or at a restaurant, or at a discotheque, or at a pool-hall, or at a night club, or at a shopping market, all of which happened deep inside Israel, is determined by Hanan Ashwari as the right for the Palestinians to defend themselves?
Literally seconds after the killing of Yassin, the Palestinians threatened the usual: The gates of hell have been opened. Israeli blood will run through the streets. Yada, Yada, Yada.
I remember when Saddam promised the Mother Of All Battles. Now I assume he was referring to the battle against lice that infested his hair while he hid out in his spider-hole. These people are so full of self delusional crap, it is a wonder that they exist at all.
Killing Yassin drives a few very important realities home:
1) Israeli technology is more impressive than just somewhat.
Imagine. Here's an Israeli helicopter a significant distance away, that fired a missile at a small moving target, scoring a direct hit, with virtually no collateral damage.
I would think about that long and hard if I was an enemy of Israel
2) Israel can get any of the TERRORISTS they want to. It's not as much a matter of ability, as it is a matter of efficiency, and how much or little collateral damage Israel is prepared to inflict.
3) Killing Yassin demonstrates without equivocation that Israel is not cowed by Arab leadership and the threat of revenge. Every TERRORIST leader, as of the moment Yassin was killed has got to feel that much more vulnerable.
Despite their tough talk, it isn't the TERRORIST leaders who are willing to commit suicide to murder Jews, it's the young and impressionable they convince to do it for them. The leaders don't want to die.
4) Israel's security policy and war on TERRORISM isn't going to be fought based upon what the UN and Europe is going to think or say. And if the Arabs thought so before Yassin was taken out, they have good reason to think again.
5) The Israelis are not going to make the same mistake in leaving Gaza, that they made when they left Lebanon. This time they're going to be leaving a bloodied TERRORIST enemy behind with a clear lesson.
You didn't drive us out. We decide to leave. And unless you want more, don't screw with us.
6) The killing of Yassin also sends a very clear message to the Arabs and the rest of the world. Israel is no longer in the nice-guy negotiating mood.
Israel will pull out of Gaza and much of the West Bank. They will set up their new perimeters along the lines of the Security Fence, which could very well become the defacto border.
Israel will simply wash their hands of the Palestinians, letting the UN and the rest of the Arab world to deal with them.
This killing is but one step in a much longer march to full disengagement with the Palestinians. Israel will continue to defend itself from Palestinian, Islamic, and Arab TERRORISM, but it will no longer worry about what the Palestinians think. Nor will they keep a "temporary settlement" presence in Palestinian territories.
Palestinian problems will be Palestinian problems. Not the problems of Israel. And the whole world, especially the Arab world better be prepared to deal with the mess; because a mess it will be.
Once Israel completely closes the door on Palestine, there will be nothing left for the Palestinians but hatred, ignorance and poverty. This is what happens when you push too far. This is what happens when you want everything and are willing to give up nothing. This is what happens when you believe you are far greater than what you really are.
This is what is happening to the Palestinians.
In spite of the pledges of the Palestinians to kill more Jews, and perhaps attack the USA, nothing out of the ordinary is going to happen as a result of the killing of Yassin, other than a probable reduction in TERRORIST attacks against Israel.
What the Palestinian leaders have to be concerned with, more than reprisal killings of Jews, is who amongst them is next. Israel has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt their willingness and capability of taking out whomever they want.
While the Western world (with the exception of the USA) is busily condemning Israel for this violent targeted killing, Israel has just set in motion the kind of policy that will most probably reduce TERROR attacks, and drive TERRORIST leaders further underground.
Killing Yassin was long overdue. I look forward to the next TERRORIST martyrs who Israel dispatches to Allah. There can't be too many. And it can't happen too soon.Richie :*)
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Favourite Scriptures to Refute JWs ......
by xjw_b12 indo you have any favourite scriptures you use to refute jws, or at least tick them off !
i have a couple i like:.
re the wtbts false prophecies: .
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Richie
You can surely use a lot of arguments using the many scriptures in this thread:
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/68975/1081653/post.ashx#1081653
Richie :*)
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WT answers to Apostate lies, half truths and deceptions.
by Black Sheep in.
i am looking for the wt articles that contest the lies, half truths and deceptions used by apostates to weaken jws faith in jehovah's spirit directed organization.. can anyone help me find them?.
please?
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Richie
Thanks OlSoddy!
You know, the sad thing is that even though we give all this bible based information (which they can check for themselves) and most witnesses categorically deny that the WT organization is demonic. When you tell them a lie a million times over, they will sadly believe the lie rather than logic and are even willing to die for their "faith". But then, we have seen this happen with nazism in Germany and right now with islamic extremism, whereas the Watchtower organization can be likened to spiritual terrorists....
Richie :*)