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Request----2022 Circuit Overseer Guidelines in PDF!
by Atlantis in2022 circuit overseer guidelines pdf.. .
https://www.filemail.com/d/kphgslnjfxwgjxk .
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Justin Martyr says the Jews deleted the Martyrdom of Isaiah
by BelisemDeBelimakom ininteresting find from nathanh83's youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k--xgviqleo.
source: ante-nicene fathers, “dialogue of justin, philosopher and martyr, with trypho, a jew” chapter 120:.
[...] jesus came, therefore, as we have shown at length, and is expected again to appear above the clouds; whose name you profane, and labour hard to get it profaned over all the earth.
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Interesting find from NathanH83's Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k--XGvIQlEo
Source: Ante-Nicene Fathers, “Dialogue of Justin, Philosopher and Martyr, with Trypho, a Jew” Chapter 120:
[...] Jesus came, therefore, as we have shown at length, and is expected again to appear above the clouds; whose name you profane, and labour hard to get it profaned over all the earth. It were possible for me, sirs,” I continued, “to contend against you about the reading which you so interpret, saying it is written, Till the things laid up for Him come;’ though the Seventy have not so explained it, but thus, Till He comes for whom this is laid up.’ But since what follows indicates that the reference is to Christ (for it is, and He shall be the expectation of nations’), I do not proceed to have a mere verbal controversy with you, as I have not attempted to establish proof about Christ from the passages of Scripture which are not admitted by you which I quoted from the words of Jeremiah the prophet, and Esdras, and David; but from those which are even now admitted by you, which had your teachers comprehended, be well assured they would have deleted them, as they did those about the death of Isaiah, whom you sawed asunder with a wooden saw. And this was a mysterious type of Christ being about to cut your nation in two, and to raise those worthy of the honour to the everlasting kingdom along with the holy patriarchs and prophets; but He has said that He will send others to the condemnation of the unquenchable fire along with similar disobedient and impenitent men from all the nations. For they shall come,’ He said, from the west and from the east, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven; but the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness.’ And I have mentioned these things, taking nothing whatever into consideration, except the speaking of the truth, and refusing to be coerced by any one, even though I should be forthwith torn in pieces by you. For I gave no thought to any of my people, that is, the Samaritans, when I had a communication in writing with Caesar, but stated that they were wrong in trusting to the magician Simon of their own nation, who, they say, is God above all power, and authority, and might.”
Masoretic Book of Isaiah and the Greek Septuagint/LXX Isaiah are different: Messianic prophecies of Jesus have been either completely reworded into obscurity or outright removed from the former book, which is far more widely used.
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2022-November-Elders Manual--S-147 Announcements!
by Atlantis in2022-november elders manual.
2022-s-147 announcements and reminders2022-jwpub files of the above.
https://www.filemail.com/d/mnpzkotbirxqqgo or.
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BelisemDeBelimakom
Thank you Atlantis!
jwpub files are also included, this is great.
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JW Obession with the trinity
by Riley inso a few years i watched a lecture series by a man named dr. micheal heiser called the two powers in heaven, jesus in the old testament.
funny thing was it wasn't even very evangelical in nature, so i turned off my religious binders and just watched it like a regular person.
it turns out that the new testament is a hinge point in the bible.
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so I turned off my religious binders and just watched it like a regular person
I am also approaching Biblewith this attitude. So when the Bible (and all related books, studies etc.) is read in such a way, you realize everything that WT corporation try to cover/subvert/explain away, such as Cross and Soul etc., all seem to have foundation in the Bible.
With this approach in mind, here are recommended extra-biblical books for aditional insight:
- Book of the Bee (https://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/bb/index.htm)
- Book of the Cave of Treasures (https://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/bct/index.htm)
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Where did Enoch go - God transferred him?
by Fisherman ingod did not take the lives of the wicked contemporaries of enoch, instead he took the life of enoch.
and that seems like a great injustice to deprive innocent enoch of life instead of killing the wicked.
—i said seems.. a man goes to get surgery but first they give him an opiate like narcotic and he falls asleep gladly and with pleasure and euphoria.
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BelisemDeBelimakom
According the other sources (Jasher, Enoch, Apocryphal Gospels, Book of the Bee, Cave of Treasures etc.) here is what happened to him and his purpose:
Enoch has been transferred to heaven and Elijah was the second to be taken; these two are the 2 witnesses which appeared during transsfiguration of Jesus Christ and they are to appear during AntiChrist's reign (mentioned in the book of Revelation), they will die for 3 days then will rise.
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Watchtower vs Islam: Why the deafening silence?
by raymond frantz inwhy has the watchtower failed spectacularly to evangelize to the muslims?
considering the recent influx of muslim people in european countries you would think that some attempt from the religion that touts the are preaching the good news of the kingdom in all the inhabited earth would have been made.instead the only meaningful attempt dates back to 1953 ,almost 70 years ago!!!!
book " man's search for god.what do you think?
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BelisemDeBelimakom
Here is an interesting perspective:
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JW "new light" immediately reversed/contradicted
by BoogerMan inseptember 2022 study watchtower - par.
14 p. 18 - "after all, no one will be allowed to practice vile things in the new world.
the unrighteous must have practiced these vile things before their death.
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So everybody will get resurrected no matter what. They define a new level for the fear mongering purposes: the goats, who won't get ressurected. It is kept and maintained by the Guardians of Doctrine. Consequently, they can cast anyone into that class as they wish, same as before.
All others out of the goat class will get resurrected. This is the bait, they can continue attracting new ones: "You want to see your loved ones?"
P.S. It is funny those critical paragraphs (p. 14 and 19) have no Biblical references The article is full of Bible references but none of them give any of the details they give on the paragraphs...
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14 Document Pack--Talk Outlines-Data Information-Announcements!
by Atlantis in14 document pack.
talk outlines in english and spanish, announcements, personal data information which includes:.
see document number 13instructions for use of personal datarefusal to sign notice and consent for use of personal data"the publisher should be informed that the congregation or branch office may not be able to evaluate his suitability to fulfill certain roles within the congregation or participate in many congregation activities, such as serving as a regular pioneer, a ministerial servant, or an elder.https://www.filemail.com/d/sobkuyhiasjogql orhttps://we.tl/t-cudhivn75uatlantis!
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BelisemDeBelimakom
Thank you Atlantis!
July 15 Announcements
5. Payment Requests: Starting in September 2022, congregations and Kingdom Hall Operating Committees will be requested to cancel their bank accounts and transfer their funds to the branch. The branch will handle the payment requests in behalf of congregations and Kingdom Hall Operating Committees.
It maybe that they are preparing for the upcoming crisis (as they are part of the system, they know the "plans"): according to some: financial chaos is imminent, and every one should withdraw their money from banks immediately. Probably somethings are about to happen this September.... and they will say again, see how God is directing his people...
7. Congregations in Andorra: These changes apply to congregations in Andorra, with the exception that their bank accounts will not be cancelled.
8. Congregations in Gibraltar: These changes do not apply to congregations in Gibraltar, with the exception that they will now use the feature “Transfer funds” to send their monthly donations to the branch (see paragraph 3).Andorra and Gibraltar: tax evasion heavens.
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What Name Does the New Testament Emphasize - Jehovah or Jesus?
by Vanderhoven7 init seems to me scripturally speaking, that jehovah's witnesses are emphasizing the wrong name.. it should be jesus, not jehovah.
who is the way, the truth and the life?
(john 14:6).
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The Bible Unfiltered by Michael S. Heiser
Chapter 13 - What's In a Name?
“I am that I am”—God’s response when Moses asks for his name is famous for both its simplicity and its mystery (Exod 3:14 LEB). What exactly does it mean?
In Hebrew, God says ehyeh asher ehyeh (“I am that I am”). The verb form for “I am” is ehyeh. If you’ve studied a language, you know that verbs—action words—have grammatical person and number. With most languages, “number” refers to singular or plural; “person” refers to the subject of the verb. When I taught biblical languages, I would explain it this way: I am number one (first person). You are second fiddle (second person). Everyone else (he, she, or they) is a third party (third person).
In this sentence, the name of God, ehyeh, is a first-person, singular form of the verb “to be” (hayah). It’s a statement of self-existence—and, therefore, a denial of being created by any higher power or force.
Yet, the consonants used in ehyeh are not exactly the same as those found in the name of God in thousands of other places in the Hebrew Old Testament: y-h-w-h. These four consonants are known as the sacred Tetragrammaton (meaning “four letters”). Out of reverence, Israelites didn’t pronounce the name. In writing, they eventually provided the consonants with vowels for a different Hebrew word—adonay or “Lord.”1 English translations represent the sacred name with “LORD” in small capital letters. That actually isn’t a translation of the four consonants, though. It’s a reverential substitute for a word that was not spoken.
If ehyeh is the name God gives in Exodus 3:14, where does yhwh come from? For an answer, we need to take a closer look at the Hebrew’s meaning and the forms it can take. Ehyeh and yhwh come from the same verb, hayah (meaning “to be”). Ehyeh is the first-person form of the verb and is typically translated as “I am.” That same root word also appears as hawah, a standard spelling in texts older than the earliest manuscripts of the Hebrew Old Testament.2 The name yhwh is the third-person form of hawah.
All this suggests that yhwh should be pronounced yihweh, which would mean “he is” (since it’s in the third person). But that’s problematic. Elsewhere in the Bible, the divine name is shortened to two consonants (yh; e.g., Exod 15:2), and Hebrew scribes always added an “a” vowel to it (yah). So if the first half of the name is yah, it wouldn’t seem yihweh is the right option. That’s why scholars prefer yahweh as the spelling of the divine name. But, as you might guess, that’s disputed, too.
To unravel the debate over the mystery behind God’s name, we have to dive deeper into the original language. Stick with me here—even if you don’t know Hebrew, the possibilities present intriguing options for interpretation.
The most straightforward explanation is a technical one: Yahweh is a third-person form in what’s called the imperfect conjugation of the Hiphil stem. It sounds complicated, but this conjugation basically accounts for the added “y” and the yah spelling of the shorter name. Since the Hiphil stem is used to indicate the subject’s role as a cause for something else, the meaning of the divine name yahweh would be something like “he causes to be” or “he brings into existence.” This would denote God as the one who is creator.
But here’s the rub: There are no examples of this form of the verb hayah/hawah in all known ancient Hebrew writing samples except for the Old Testament. For that reason, some scholars don’t like this explanation.3 They want at least one parallel. For several linguistic reasons, they prefer to understand y-h-w-h simply as “he is” (yihweh) without regard to the shorter yah spelling 4.
In the end, both possibilities are workable. One (yihweh) maintains the idea that God is uncreated; he just is. The other (yahweh) proposes that the God of Israel is the one who brings all things into being. He is and he is the creator. Both are powerful theological statements.
Notes:
- The divine name should not be pronounced “Jehovah” (or “Yehovah” or “Yahovah”). “Jehovah” is a German spelling. In German, the letter “j” is pronounced like the English “y.” The pronunciation and spelling of Jehovah arose in the Middle Ages as a misreading of Hebrew scribal practices. The scribes refused to pronounce the divine name out of reverence. When they had to write it, they used the four consonants (yhwh) but swapped in the vowels from the word adonay (“lord”) to indicate that adonay should be said aloud, not any variation using the consonants yhwh. The resulting combination of yahovah or yehovah is an artificial word—a misunderstanding that resulted from combining consonants and vowels that were not meant to be read together.
- The Hebrew letters waw (“w”) and yod (“y”) came to be interchangeable in the spellings of some words.
- See Ernst Jenni, “Yahweh,” TLOT 522.
- In very ancient Hebrew and Aramaic, the yi- prefix derived from the ya- prefix. See Paul Joüon and Takamitsu Muraoka, A Grammar of Biblical Hebrew, rev. Eng. ed. (Roma: Pontificio Istituto Biblico, 2006), 118 [§41e]. It is possible that this is what has happened with the divine name.
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Military Service Confusion
by Sea Breeze incan someone please call these three guys and tell them that the first gentile christian was an active duty roman military officer named cornelius.
these guys have been locked up for 25 years!.
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BelisemDeBelimakom
Thank you See Breeze! Thank you truth_b_known!
Although in Luke 3:14 it is John the Baptist who is speaking, the idea remains the same: Jesus Christ nor apostles did not asked any officers (whatever their rank) to change/resign:
- Nicodemus, member of Pharisees, a ruler of the Jews (John 3:1)
- Joseph of Arimathea, a reputable member of the Sanhedrin (Mark 15:43)
In fact, it was the same in the past, example from Elisha's days:
- Naaman, the army chief of the king of Syria (2 Kings 5:17-19)
Additionaly, the famous verse which is used by WT regarding military issue, Matthew 26:52, is clearly being used out of context. Why Peter was carrying a sword? Why did Jesus allowed swords and later commanded his disciples to arm themselves? Luke 22:36.
Barnes' Notes on Matthew 26:52
"However, the most satisfactory interpretation is that which regards it as a caution to Peter. Peter was rash. Alone he had attacked the whole band. Jesus told him that his unseasonable and imprudent defense might be the occasion of his own destruction. In doing it he would endanger his life, for they who took the sword perished by it. This was probably a proverb, denoting that they who engaged in wars commonly perished there."