BelisemDeBelimakom
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2022-07-01--Additional Contribution Box!
by Atlantis inthe watchtower wants more money!.
https://we.tl/t-jyt0susog5.
atlantis!.
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2 Peter and Jude and 1 Enoch
by Parallax ini'm new to the forum and i have a question about what was said in a 16-year-old thread at this forum.
a poster by the name of leolaia said.... the author of 2 peter did not recognize that jude 6 was an allustion to 1 enoch (just as he did not realize that jude 9 was an allusion to the assumption of moses and thus rephrased it incoherently in 2 peter 2:11), or he may have objected to the enochic reference (just as jude 14-15 was omitted in 2 peter 2).
in either case, the author overlooked the enochic allusion and instead recognized the passage as an allusion of hesiod and thus embellished the passage from jude with an allusion to hesiod's tartarus.. .
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BelisemDeBelimakom
Early Church Fathers on Apocrypha/ Deuterocanonical Books
https://practicalapologetics.blogspot.com/2013/07/early-church-fathers-on-apocrypha.html
If they did all they can to remove/ban Apocrypha, Jasher and Enoch etc. from the Bible, then it is worth all the efforts reading those books and come to a conclusion (whether they are inspired or strengthens faith) by one's self. WT corporation also, directly and indirectly, rejects those books. This is yet another motivation to read them. The muslims are right when they say, the Bible is corrupted: seen the list of removed many books and altered/removed verses.
Other recommended books to deepen Bible knowledge that "fill the blanks":
The Book of the Bee
Edited and translated by E. A. Wallis Budge [1886]
https://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/bb/index.htm
The Book of the Cave of Treasures
translated from the Syriac by E. A. Wallis Budge [1927]
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2 Peter and Jude and 1 Enoch
by Parallax ini'm new to the forum and i have a question about what was said in a 16-year-old thread at this forum.
a poster by the name of leolaia said.... the author of 2 peter did not recognize that jude 6 was an allustion to 1 enoch (just as he did not realize that jude 9 was an allusion to the assumption of moses and thus rephrased it incoherently in 2 peter 2:11), or he may have objected to the enochic reference (just as jude 14-15 was omitted in 2 peter 2).
in either case, the author overlooked the enochic allusion and instead recognized the passage as an allusion of hesiod and thus embellished the passage from jude with an allusion to hesiod's tartarus.. .
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BelisemDeBelimakom
From Youtube Channel of NathanH83
History of the Apocrypha in a nutshell:
The Apocryphal books were written before the time of Christ. Most of them were written in Hebrew by Jewish authors. At least 1 was written in Greek. They were included in the Hebrew Jewish Bible, and the Jewish Greek translation (used by Greek-speaking Jews).
The Jews took these books out of their Hebrew text very early on, about 90 AD or so. But the Christians still had them in their Greek copies (Christians were given the Bible before the Jews took them out).
So the Christians still had them in their Bible. But because the Jews took them out, then some Christians very early on wanted to take them out also, because they believed the Jews that they were never there to begin with (a lie). But the church required them to be left in. 3 church councils in the 300's required them to be left in the Bible. Jerome wanted to take them out, but the church wouldn't let him.
It wasn't until the 1500's when the Protestants took them out of the main body of text and placed them into their own section called "Apocrypha" (first time in history the Christian church ever did this).
Then in the 1600's Protestants in America started to print foreign language bibles without that section. But those bibles were few in the start. English Bibles had to include it by law.
In the 1700's, during the Revolutionary war, that was the first time an English Bible in America was printed without the Apocrypha (Britain forbade omitting that section in English Bibles up until then).
Then in the early 1800's Protestants convinced Bible societies to stop using money to print Bibles with that section.
By the time it was 1885, the King James Bible was no longer printed with the Apocryphal section, and the Apocrypha disappeared altogether from Protestant Bibles.
Then in the 2000's Christians like me realized we've been majorly ripped off.
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ALL babies are "little enemies of God"...
by BoogerMan instraight from the horse's gb's mouth - from the 2022 convention broadcast.. it's at the 38 min.
30 secs.
point of the jw broadcast: https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/2022convention/pub-co-r22_1_video.
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BelisemDeBelimakom
Probably they will do some editing/cutting/censoring later as they did last year, so let us all make sure to save these videos offline.
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Beards- just told by an elder
by dothemath ini know this subject has been talked about lots over the years, just thought i would share a recent finding from canada.. while visiting with a group of friends, an elder (don’t recall how the subject came up) mentioned the local body had voted to allow brothers with beards be allowed to give talks from the platform.
(it was a very close vote).
the direction given was for each congregation to decide for themselves if that is now acceptable.. so some congregations will be for, and for many it will not.. it’ll probably be a long time before we see any pictures on the watchtower where they’re allowing this though..
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My Eyes, My Ears ... arrrrrghhhh!!!!
by RolRod injust saw this ..... https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/uzfp4q/what_in_the_hell/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share.
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BelisemDeBelimakom
I can't unsee the compass and protractor symbolism on the wall, "The Inside Story".
Graduation party of Master Builders trying to please the High Priests (Octopope)...
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2022-March 19, Announcements!
by Atlantis inhttps://www.filemail.com/d/zrgzxqdcygpyrsf.
https://we.tl/t-gykfqwzfms.
petra sends big hugs!.
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BelisemDeBelimakom
Thank you Atlantis
"... about making upgrades to the Kingdom Hall to improve hygiene and reduce the potential for transmission of viruses. While we want the measures that have been approved to be implemented, do not wait to resume in-person meetings until such measures have been completed."
Can't wait, due to our "high regard for the sanctity of life".
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7 Letters Requested--Cost Of Living Survey!
by Atlantis incost of living survey worksheet--(assembly hall servants & construction servants).
cost of living survey worksheet--missionaries.
cost of living survey worksheet--special pioneers.
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BelisemDeBelimakom
Thank you Atlantis!
- Cost Of Living Survey seems to indicate upcoming layoffs or on the horizon.
- "... many have chosen to get vaccinated to reduce their risk." GB pushed "no one", everyone was forced only by their own fear. Thus, GB (with their Update videos) can't be held accountable.
This sudden opening of the halls, or resuming in person meetings in full (no transition period), within such short time is very suspicious. The announcement method was a first of a kind, bypassing elders, leaving them very little time to do all these changes worldwide. Something's definitely up
- Do they want to collect mo' money by doing so? It doesn't seem to be the main concern but who knows, this is chess.
- Is it because they want to open halls before spring, let the disease spread all over and then finally "decide" to close the halls indefinitely? This will prove amhaareets that the only way to continue is by Zoom, seen the fragility of the herd; later it becomes obvious that the halls need to be sold so that more studios can be built.
- Are they preparing the way to layoff many of their "elites" (outside US most probably) or somehow force them to quit?
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Do we need to step out of religion and into Christ
by joe134cd ini was just thinking?
do we as people, who have been hurt by religion, need to refocus our position.
do we need to step out of an organisation, to concentrate on a relationship .
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BelisemDeBelimakom
Peter said: "to whom would we go? You have the words of eternal life." (John 6:67-69). Like them, we should also focus on Jesus, him alone. His teachings are clear and easy to understand, no need for someone to explain them to us. There should be no (longer) any mediators between, howsoever innocent it (they) may look.
Causing people to lose faith in Jesus and to doubt existence of God is the "B Plan" of the organized religion.
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More Files If You Want Them!
by Atlantis insome of the folks running this site have thrown together some files, if you just want to skim through to see if there is anything you want.. if anyone wants to grab some of these files to include in your file cabinet, then here you go.. .
https://accessjw.org/rtk/.
that hazelnut coffee creamer might be good, so i think i'll give it a try.
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BelisemDeBelimakom
Thank you Atlantis!
P.S. Coffee creamers are bad for health (check ingredients). Use raw milk whenever possible.
