Posts by BelisemDeBelimakom

When I die, put my ashes in the trash bag
I don't care where they go
Don't waste your money on my gravestone
I'm more concerned about my soul
Everybody's gon' die
Don't everybody live though
Sometimes I look up to the sky
And wonder do You see us down here?

Oh Lord, oh Lord, do You see us down here?
Oh Lord, oh Lord

Listen, yeah everybody wants change
Don't nobody wanna change though

Don't nobody wanna pray
Till they got something to pray for
Now everybody's gon' die
But don't everybody live though
Sometimes I look up to the sky
And wonder do you see us down here?

Oh Lord, oh Lord, do You see us down here?
Oh Lord, oh Lord

It's easy to blame God but harder to fix things
We look in the sky like, "why ain't You listening?"
Watching the news in our living rooms on the big screens
And talking 'bout "if God's really real, then where is He?"
You see the same God that you saying might not even exist
Becomes real to us, but only when we dying in bed
When ya healthy it's like, we don't really care for Him then
Leave me alone God, I'll call you when I need you again
Which is funny, everyone will sleep in the pews
Then blame God for our problems like He sleeping on you
We turn our backs on Him, what do you expect Him to do?
It's hard to answer prayers when nobody's praying to you
I look around at this world we walk on
It's a smack in the face, don't ever tell me there's no God
And if there isn't then what are we here for?
And what are y'all doing down there? I don't know Lord

Oh Lord, oh Lord, do You see us down here?
Oh Lord, oh Lord

Do You see us down here? Oh Lord
Can You see us down here? Oh Lord
Oh Lord, oh Lord
Can You see us? Can't You see us?

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Request----2022 Circuit Overseer Guidelines in PDF!

by Atlantis in

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2022 circuit overseer guidelines pdf.. .

https://www.filemail.com/d/kphgslnjfxwgjxk .

atlantis!.

BelisemDeBelimakom

Hi Atlantis, thank you for sharing this!

P.S. To avoid tracking, it is best to remove the documents' metadata before posting..

Justin Martyr says the Jews deleted the Martyrdom of Isaiah

by BelisemDeBelimakom in

interesting find from nathanh83's youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k--xgviqleo.

source: ante-nicene fathers, “dialogue of justin, philosopher and martyr, with trypho, a jew” chapter 120:.

[...] jesus came, therefore, as we have shown at length, and is expected again to appear above the clouds; whose name you profane, and labour hard to get it profaned over all the earth.

BelisemDeBelimakom

Interesting find from NathanH83's Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k--XGvIQlEo

Source: Ante-Nicene Fathers, “Dialogue of Justin, Philosopher and Martyr, with Trypho, a Jew” Chapter 120:

[...] Jesus came, therefore, as we have shown at length, and is expected again to appear above the clouds; whose name you profane, and labour hard to get it profaned over all the earth. It were possible for me, sirs,” I continued, “to contend against you about the reading which you so interpret, saying it is written, Till the things laid up for Him come;’ though the Seventy have not so explained it, but thus, Till He comes for whom this is laid up.’ But since what follows indicates that the reference is to Christ (for it is, and He shall be the expectation of nations’), I do not proceed to have a mere verbal controversy with you, as I have not attempted to establish proof about Christ from the passages of Scripture which are not admitted by you which I quoted from the words of Jeremiah the prophet, and Esdras, and David; but from those which are even now admitted by you, which had your teachers comprehended, be well assured they would have deleted them, as they did those about the death of Isaiah, whom you sawed asunder with a wooden saw. And this was a mysterious type of Christ being about to cut your nation in two, and to raise those worthy of the honour to the everlasting kingdom along with the holy patriarchs and prophets; but He has said that He will send others to the condemnation of the unquenchable fire along with similar disobedient and impenitent men from all the nations. For they shall come,’ He said, from the west and from the east, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven; but the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness.’ And I have mentioned these things, taking nothing whatever into consideration, except the speaking of the truth, and refusing to be coerced by any one, even though I should be forthwith torn in pieces by you. For I gave no thought to any of my people, that is, the Samaritans, when I had a communication in writing with Caesar, but stated that they were wrong in trusting to the magician Simon of their own nation, who, they say, is God above all power, and authority, and might.”

Masoretic Book of Isaiah and the Greek Septuagint/LXX Isaiah are different: Messianic prophecies of Jesus have been either completely reworded into obscurity or outright removed from the former book, which is far more widely used.

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2022-November-Elders Manual--S-147 Announcements!

by Atlantis in

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2022-november elders manual.

2022-s-147 announcements and reminders2022-jwpub files of the above.

https://www.filemail.com/d/mnpzkotbirxqqgo or.

BelisemDeBelimakom

Thank you Atlantis!

jwpub files are also included, this is great.

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JW Obession with the trinity

by Riley in

so a few years i watched a lecture series by a man named dr. micheal heiser called the two powers in heaven, jesus in the old testament.

funny thing was it wasn't even very evangelical in nature, so i turned off my religious binders and just watched it like a regular person.

it turns out that the new testament is a hinge point in the bible.

BelisemDeBelimakom

so I turned off my religious binders and just watched it like a regular person

I am also approaching Biblewith this attitude. So when the Bible (and all related books, studies etc.) is read in such a way, you realize everything that WT corporation try to cover/subvert/explain away, such as Cross and Soul etc., all seem to have foundation in the Bible.

With this approach in mind, here are recommended extra-biblical books for aditional insight:

- Book of the Bee (https://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/bb/index.htm)

- Book of the Cave of Treasures (https://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/bct/index.htm)

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Where did Enoch go - God transferred him?

by Fisherman in

god did not take the lives of the wicked contemporaries of enoch, instead he took the life of enoch.

and that seems like a great injustice to deprive innocent enoch of life instead of killing the wicked.

—i said seems.. a man goes to get surgery but first they give him an opiate like narcotic and he falls asleep gladly and with pleasure and euphoria.

BelisemDeBelimakom

According the other sources (Jasher, Enoch, Apocryphal Gospels, Book of the Bee, Cave of Treasures etc.) here is what happened to him and his purpose:

Enoch has been transferred to heaven and Elijah was the second to be taken; these two are the 2 witnesses which appeared during transsfiguration of Jesus Christ and they are to appear during AntiChrist's reign (mentioned in the book of Revelation), they will die for 3 days then will rise.

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Watchtower vs Islam: Why the deafening silence?

by raymond frantz in

why has the watchtower failed spectacularly to evangelize to the muslims?

considering the recent influx of muslim people in european countries you would think that some attempt from the religion that touts the are preaching the good news of the kingdom in all the inhabited earth would have been made.instead the only meaningful attempt dates back to 1953 ,almost 70 years ago!!!!

book " man's search for god.what do you think?

BelisemDeBelimakom

Here is an interesting perspective:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCmSBfVXEmA

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JW "new light" immediately reversed/contradicted

by BoogerMan in

september 2022 study watchtower - par.

14 p. 18 - "after all, no one will be allowed to practice vile things in the new world.

the unrighteous must have practiced these vile things before their death.

BelisemDeBelimakom

So everybody will get resurrected no matter what. They define a new level for the fear mongering purposes: the goats, who won't get ressurected. It is kept and maintained by the Guardians of Doctrine. Consequently, they can cast anyone into that class as they wish, same as before.

All others out of the goat class will get resurrected. This is the bait, they can continue attracting new ones: "You want to see your loved ones?"

P.S. It is funny those critical paragraphs (p. 14 and 19) have no Biblical references The article is full of Bible references but none of them give any of the details they give on the paragraphs...

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14 Document Pack--Talk Outlines-Data Information-Announcements!

by Atlantis in

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14 document pack.

talk outlines in english and spanish, announcements, personal data information which includes:.

see document number 13instructions for use of personal datarefusal to sign notice and consent for use of personal data"the publisher should be informed that the congregation or branch office may not be able to evaluate his suitability to fulfill certain roles within the congregation or participate in many congregation activities, such as serving as a regular pioneer, a ministerial servant, or an elder.https://www.filemail.com/d/sobkuyhiasjogql orhttps://we.tl/t-cudhivn75uatlantis!

BelisemDeBelimakom

Thank you Atlantis!

July 15 Announcements

5. Payment Requests: Starting in September 2022, congregations and Kingdom Hall Operating Committees will be requested to cancel their bank accounts and transfer their funds to the branch. The branch will handle the payment requests in behalf of congregations and Kingdom Hall Operating Committees.

It maybe that they are preparing for the upcoming crisis (as they are part of the system, they know the "plans"): according to some: financial chaos is imminent, and every one should withdraw their money from banks immediately. Probably somethings are about to happen this September.... and they will say again, see how God is directing his people...

7. Congregations in Andorra: These changes apply to congregations in Andorra, with the exception that their bank accounts will not be cancelled.
8. Congregations in Gibraltar: These changes do not apply to congregations in Gibraltar, with the exception that they will now use the feature “Transfer funds” to send their monthly donations to the branch (see paragraph 3).

Andorra and Gibraltar: tax evasion heavens.