BelisemDeBelimakom

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  New convention video: Do you see what I see?

  by neat blue dog in

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  At least they gave credits.

  Anyway, I've remarked also that the video is narrated by a woman. Did they do that previously or is it something new?
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  What is spiritual warfare.

  by Hellothere in

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  what is spiritual warfare to you?

  i experienced a situation that i could clearly say was spiritual warfare.

  but that was something i could only see years laters.

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  spiritual warfare: the invisible war in the invisible realm, between the forces of good and evil.

  A Christian does not fight such war with visible means, especially using Satan's system, therefore, WT's way of fighting this war (without producing any good qualities, better people etc.) is completely designed for deceiving masses and pushing their agenda.
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  Is there really any universal issue of Sovereignty?

  by Linda14 in

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  i can agree that satan doesn't see god as a good ruler as stated at gen 3:1-5. he doesn't seem to see gods laws as right or good.

  but whether there is an understanding/agreement between god and satan afterward to the effect that he can take the mantle of rulership to show whether his style is best is doubtful.

  that conclusion is probably reached because god hasn't destroyed satan, and he is also called the ruler of the world in the bible.

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  While I was still a PIMI, this topic was always a mystery to me. Now, I don't believe in a "universal issue of Sovereignty" neither: that is minimizing God's power. I believe this term is created by WT or previous cults for their own purposes.

  Reading the following books helped me to have a better view of God and His power over all His creation:
  

  - The Book of Enoch, translated by R.H. Charles [1917]

  Shows how God punished the rebel angels, how angels tremble before God.

  - The Book of the Cave of Treasures, translated from the Syriac by E. A. Wallis Budge [1927]

  Shows you how the revolt started with all its aftershocks in heaven.

  - The Book of Adam and Eve (The Forgotten Books of Eden) edited by Rutherford H. Platt, Jr. [1926]

  Detailed interactions of God and first couple after they were cast out of the Garden..
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  for the PIMO question as to A. Morris

  by enoughisenough in

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  have the rank and file been told not to "gossip", or "question" about mr morris yet?

  i am mindful of how questioning decisions was discouraged and being told to keep things confidential.

  ( maybe too soon, but do share if a special needs part comes up) you would think that common sense would tell them they cause the questions when they don't share reasons.

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  Here is what I received when I shared the news to a PIMI which summarize all:

  Yes, I saw this. The natural thing is to "wonder". Hopefully all for good reasons.

  Some sort of defensive mechanism triggered when certain words are pronounced together... hypnosis in action
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  The Mandalorian is an Apostate

  by neat blue dog in

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  i wonder how many jws will squirm watching the upcoming 3rd season of mandalorian in which out of compassion he was obliged to break certain rules of his religion and is now labeled an apostate.

  awkward!.

  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=l6ye7fue220.

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  Mandolarian was disfellowshipped and declared as apostate because he admitted honestly "he has removed his helmet" (renounced his faith, creed). Decision was swift, taken by a female elder; no judicial comittees, no forms filled. See Boba Fett, Chapter 5 (S1:E5) starting @ 23:00 mark.
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  Turkish & Syria Earthquake Victims approach 40,000 WT Says:

  by Slidin Fast in

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  you couldn't make it up.. "tens of thousands affected by devastating earthquake in turkey.

  a magnitude 7.8 earthquake struck southeastern turkey early monday, february 6, 2023. later, a magnitude 7.5 tremor hit the same region.

  a number of significant aftershocks have been felt in the region.

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  The only thing WT care is the "brothers and sisters" (or specifically only their paid personnel), the rest is just for statistics. They do not care about and do absolutely nothing for any other people affected. For advertising purposes, I'm certain they will enact a scene where brothers are wearing helmets and providing some sort of help to local brothers as if they were helping all people.

  They say two Disaster Relief Committees are "working" and "assisting" the search and rescue efforts.. This is simply not possible. We saw this during the pandemic. For brothers, they will send their best wishes (this is the spiritual assistance they mention), prayers (free of charge) and "keep yourselves warm and stay safe" messages. If there's really a need (financially or physically), the disaster team, elders and COs will all happily "remind" you (this is the assistance part) to claim free governmental aid or ask your close family members.

  They are allowed to spend money from Bethel's vault only for those who work for them, not the volunteers but paid staff. All others should be financed by their families or by the government aid or by local brothers & sisters.

  
  

  Love, exciting and new

  Come aboard. we're expecting you.

  Love, life's sweetest reward.

  Let it flow, it floats back to you.

  The love boat soon will be making another run

  The love boat promises something for everyone
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  Is it mathematically posible for Noah and his sons to have populated the earth?

  by Fisherman in

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  bible says flood occurred approximately 4000 years ago.

  that is about *200 generations of breeding to get to the population on earth now.

  keep in mind that the population increase is geometric.

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  https://youtu.be/VI1yRTC6kGE
  
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  Christmas and the name jehovah

  by nowwhat? in

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  for the same reasons jw's reject christmas they use the name jehovah.. dec 25 is the recognized day to celebrate the birth of christ in the world.- we use jehovah because it is the recognized name of the father in the world.. it dishonors jesus because we don't know the actual date of jesus birth- even though we don't know the actual pronouncing of gods name it brings honor to god to use it.

  even though the angels rejoiced at the birth of jesus, no where in the bible does it say we should celebrate it.

  even though no where in the bible does it say christians are to be witnesses of jehovah, we proudly bear his name!.

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  "On September 11, 3 B.C. sunset was at 6:18 pm and moonset at 7:39 pm. It was during this eighty-one minute period of time that Jesus Christ was born in Bethlehem of Judaea."

  https://www.amazon.com/September-11th-Jesus-Christ-Born/dp/1466232382
  
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  Songs that help recovery

  by peacefulpete in

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  are there songs that seem to speak to you?

  maybe especially when leaving the church and losing friends and family.

  i still pause when i hear hennly's heart of the matter.

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkHgxKemCRk
  
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  Songs that help recovery

  by peacefulpete in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  are there songs that seem to speak to you?

  maybe especially when leaving the church and losing friends and family.

  i still pause when i hear hennly's heart of the matter.

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  BelisemDeBelimakom

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0NOxf4uaZI

  When I die, put my ashes in the trash bag
  I don't care where they go
  Don't waste your money on my gravestone
  I'm more concerned about my soul
  Everybody's gon' die
  Don't everybody live though
  Sometimes I look up to the sky
  And wonder do You see us down here?

  Oh Lord, oh Lord, do You see us down here?
  Oh Lord, oh Lord

  Listen, yeah everybody wants change
  Don't nobody wanna change though

  Don't nobody wanna pray
  Till they got something to pray for
  Now everybody's gon' die
  But don't everybody live though
  Sometimes I look up to the sky
  And wonder do you see us down here?

  Oh Lord, oh Lord, do You see us down here?
  Oh Lord, oh Lord

  It's easy to blame God but harder to fix things
  We look in the sky like, "why ain't You listening?"
  Watching the news in our living rooms on the big screens
  And talking 'bout "if God's really real, then where is He?"
  You see the same God that you saying might not even exist
  Becomes real to us, but only when we dying in bed
  When ya healthy it's like, we don't really care for Him then
  Leave me alone God, I'll call you when I need you again
  Which is funny, everyone will sleep in the pews
  Then blame God for our problems like He sleeping on you
  We turn our backs on Him, what do you expect Him to do?
  It's hard to answer prayers when nobody's praying to you
  I look around at this world we walk on
  It's a smack in the face, don't ever tell me there's no God
  And if there isn't then what are we here for?
  And what are y'all doing down there? I don't know Lord

  Oh Lord, oh Lord, do You see us down here?
  Oh Lord, oh Lord

  Do You see us down here? Oh Lord
  Can You see us down here? Oh Lord
  Oh Lord, oh Lord
  Can You see us? Can't You see us?