I know a guy who said he saw a vision of a feather floating around ( Forrest Gump style?! ), is he crazy??? I won't make that call. NOWHERE in the Bible does it ever say that some Christians partake and some don't. Partaking is a testament to YOUR faith in Christ alone as your personal savior, acording to scripture. If you are a Christian, you partake. An athiest can read the Gospel and see that " Christians " partake. All Christians have the same hope, the details of that hope are debatable. One thing is certain, Rutherford's 1935-ish two-class teaching is a bunch of soggy " miracle wheat". It is interesting to note that the partakers at the top of the JW Org claim no inspiration. The do claim to be spirit-directed, and a couple of notches above the other members of the same " slave class ". The regular " slave class " do not have insight like the GB, just ask any dub. Perhaps a sign that you are an anointed dub is the ability to believe your own lies, even the ones you tell yourself?
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Stories you've heard from what makes one believe they are 'anointed'.
by EndofMysteries init's funny, how the bible describes it is far different from those i had spoken with or heard about.
let's all start listing the many different stories.
i'll start.
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Do you think marrying an unbeliever could be a disfellowshipping offense in the future?
by loading inany thoughts?.
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The Flock book doesn't say anything about it being brazen conduct. It does say that an appointed man could lose his position by tacit approval of marriage between a " Christian " and an " unbeliever ".
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Rutherford's love letter to Hitler
by irondork inhas anyone ever thought to send a copy of rutherford's letter to hitler & declaration of facts to the holocaust museum in washington, d.c.?
they have and entire section dedicated to the jehovah's witness in that museum.
i would hate for tourists to visit the museum and not get the whole story.. i would also assume there are jw displays at other holocaust museums around the world.
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Who translated this letter? Do we know it is accurate? Where is the original? Just curious, seems like a really big deal. I can't believe it is NOT in some museum somewhere. If someone translated it again would it match what was posted? This should be put under the windshield wipers of cars at every KH.
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The Governing Body intends to announce significant changes in academic literature (DOCTRINES) - Brazil
by Dogpatch indear randall.
good morning!.
here is the daniel of brazil (former bethel).. this week at the forum of former jehovah's witnesses had an interesting news!
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The phrase " bulletin board " will be used again....
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I found the ORIGINAL Caleb & Sparlock. It's stolen by the WTS!
by Gorbatchov intoday i was watching nicledeon with the kids.
and right before my eyes, on my own tv screen i found the original caleb & sparlock!.
it's called mike the knight, with his little sparlock sister!
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Litigation time??!!
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Is There a Such Thing as Progressive Understanding?
by Recovery inis there such a thing as progressive understanding of god's will?
a simple yes or no will suffice, but if you'd like to state why, please by all means do so..
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Yes. The following is an example of what progressive understanding is NOT.
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SLANDER!!!
by DATA-DOG inlawyer types, smart people..hear my plea!!
i may have to defend myself on this subject soon.
i am doing research but i want to get other views.
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Well, I narrowly escaped a JC. It was eerily similar to Raypublisher's meeting, although not a JC. In the end I attended because I had to see certain things for myself. I am not saying everyone should do this. You have to be very careful, and bring up any subject as though you are a confused sheep. Believe me, one false step in a situation like this and you WILL BE DF'D. It was also very clear that one Elder in particular was just hoping for some tidbit of information to use against me, this was definately a further attempt to flush me out if he could, or provoke me into being disrespectful. No dout if that had occured then " brazen conduct " could come into play. I was able to record the entire event. I will have to teach myself how to clean up the audio, or just make a transcript. Perhaps I can share certain bits and pieces. I will till you one thing, these men, although well meaning are totally deceived. They are drones, and parrot what they hear. Only the GB's interpretation matters, as these ones are the epitome of spirituality in the minds of JW's. It was very eye opening. Hopefully I can now begin my fade in relative peace. Thank you for your support and advice everyone.
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SLANDER!!!
by DATA-DOG inlawyer types, smart people..hear my plea!!
i may have to defend myself on this subject soon.
i am doing research but i want to get other views.
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00DAD,
Well, I have a lot to think about tonight. Not to beat a dead horse, but does it matter that it is not judicial yet? Or do you think that they are trying to get something to justify making it judicial? So you are saying don't give them any more info than I already have because even if it is factual it really won't change anything. Also, I could very well escalate the issue. So, it is best to be a no show, or just tell them what they want to hear.
Mind Blown,
Are you still in? Have you experienced something similar?
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They STILL might be DFing me soon for apostasy...
by RayPublisher inbig news - i met with the elders last night.
they were not arrogant and they were not mean spirited, but of course we all know they also would not budge from the jw brainwashed beliefs they are sworn to uphold.
i let my light shine, and within two minutes of sitting down with them was no longer nervous.. .
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RayPub, i know you have a lot going in still, my phene is messed up but text me anytime. Hope things went well in court.
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IF cornered, what 2 or 3 examples of error in JW teaching would you point out?
by undercover injust curious about this.
if - if you were cornered by elders or family or even an outsider who was curious, what two or three things would you use to point out why you no longer accept "the truthtm"?
(an exercise, not a factual situation).
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Has anyone brought up organ transplants being cannibalism? That is a fairly simple one. You can ask if they would obey an unscriptural command if the FDS told them to. You don't have to get into prophecy or anything complex. Just ask them if they were alive at that time would they have let thier spouse or child receive a life saving transplant sinc the Bible is silent on the matter. Or would they have just done what they were told? Of course it changed pretty soon, but people still died, was that God's fault?