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Posts by Emery
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81What Is The Most Absurd JW Belief or View?
by minimus inthere are many silly doctines and viewpoints.. one of the strangest ones is the blood doctrine.. why anyone could logically accept this belief is beyond reason..
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Were U Surprised To Learn Anything About The Witnesses That U Didn't Know??
by minimus inwhen i was a kid, i researched the origins of the religion and realized that the witnesses were an offshoot of adventism.....we're you surprised to learn something about the witnesses that you didn't realize?.
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Emery
Never really understood 1919 but once I did I was like... Are they serious? They really believe that Jesus came down and invisibly chose them as HIS organization? What proof do they have of this? Rutherfood and his accomplices being let out of prison is proof? This automatically makes the rank and file their belongings? The greatest event in all of mankind's history and no one knew about it but Rutherford? I was utterly embarassed and I remember thinking to myself, "How the f**k did I not know this??"
Other things that took me by surprise were Jesus not being my mediator, Johannes Greiber and the Pyramidology stuff.
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Jehovah's Witness Murderer Sentenced to life
by Watchtower-Free inhttp://www.oregonlive.com/gresham/index.ssf/2013/07/whitney_heichels_family_confro.html.
whitney heichel's family confront gresham woman's killer, sentenced to life in prison.
when it came time for clinton heichel to address the man who murdered his wife, he sat silently staring at the killer, jonathan daniel holt, for a long minute.. .
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Why does god kill children?
by Comatose ini was thinking about all the accounts in the bible that indicate god kills children as a punishment or teaching experience.
1. kills all of egypts firstborn sons, who were innocent kids who did nothing to him or his people, who had no control over the decisions pharoah made.
how many times have you read that account or thought about it without realizing the devastating pain dealt to all those parents, and remembered those were innocent kids?.
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Emery
ADCMS, I am in agreement with you when I said "Sorry but might does not make right, even with God." I was just adding my 2 cents haha.
Several fundamentalist bible scholars agree that 2 Tim 3:16 was not in anyway being attributed to the NT, verse 15 gives it's context, here are 2 scholars to consider.
Albert Barnes' Notes on the New Testament (Commentary):
Verse 15. And that from a child thou hast known the holy Scriptures. That is, the Old Testament; for the New Testament was not then written. See Barnes ".
The mother of Timothy was a pious Hebrewess, and regarded it as one of the duties of her religion to train her son in the careful knowledge of the word of God. This was regarded by the Hebrews as an important duty of religion, and there is reason to believe that it was commonly faithfully performed. The Jewish writings abound with lessons on this subject. Rabbi Judah says, "The boy of five years of age ought to apply to the study of the sacred Scriptures." Rabbi Solomon, on , says, "When the boy begins to talk, his father ought to converse with him in the sacred language, and to teach him the law; if he does not do that he seems to bury him." See numerous instances referred to in Wetstein, in loc. The expression used by Paul—from a child, (apo brefouv) does not make it certain at precisely what age Timothy was first instructed in the Scriptures, though it would denote an early age.
Verse 16. All Scripture. This properly refers to the Old Testament, and should not be applied to any part of the New Testament, unless it can be shown that that part was then written, and was included under the general name of the Scriptures. . But it includes the whole of the Old Testament, and is the solemn testimony of Paul that it was all inspired. If now it can be proved that Paul himself was an inspired man, this settles the question as to the inspiration of the Old Testament.
Is given by inspiration of God. All this is expressed in the original by one word yeopneustov theopneustos. This word occurs nowhere else in the New Testament. It properly means, God-inspired—from yeov, God, and pnew, to breathe, to breathe out. The idea of breathing upon, or breathing into the soul, is that which the word naturally conveys. Thus God breathed into the nostrils of Adam the breath of life, and thus the Saviour breathed on his disciples, and said, "Receive ye the Holy Ghost,". The idea seems to have been, that the life was in the breath, and that an intelligent spirit was communicated with the breath. The expression was used among the Greeks, and a similar one was employed by the Romans. Plutarch ed. B. ix, p. 683, 9. touv oneirouv touv yeopneustouv; Phocylid. 121. thv de yeopneustou sofihv logov estin aristov. Perhaps, however, this is not an expression of Phocylides, but of the pseudo Phocylides. So it is understood by Bloomfield. Cicero, pro Arch., 8. poetam—quasi divino quodam spiritu infiari. The word does not occur in the Septuagint, but is found in Josephus, C.. "The Scriptures of the prophets who were taught according to the inspiration of God, kata t hn epipnoian thn apo tou yeou" In regard to the manner of inspiration, and to the various questions which have been started as to its nature, nothing can he learned from the use of this word. It asserts a fact—that the Old Testament was composed under a Divine influence, which might be represented by breathing on one, and so imparting life. But the language must be figurative, for God does not breathe; though the fair inference is that those Scriptures are as much the production of God, or as much to be traced to him as life is. . The question as to the degree of inspiration, and whether it extends to the words of Scripture, and how far the sacred writers were left to the exercise of their own faculties, is foreign to the design of these Notes. All that is necessary to be held is, that the sacred writers were kept from error on those subjects which were matters of their own observation, or which pertained to memory; and that there were truths imparted to them directly by the Spirit of God, which they never could have arrived at by the unaided exercise of their own minds. Intro. to Isaiah and Job.
And is profitable. It is useful, it is adapted to give instruction, to administer reproof, etc. If "all" Scripture is thus valuable, then we are to esteem no part of the Old Testament as worthless. There is no portion of it, even now, which may not be fitted, in certain circumstances, to furnish us valuable lessons, and, consequently, no part of it which could be spared from the sacred canon. There is no part of the human body which is not useful in its place, and no part of it which can be spared without sensible loss.
For doctrine. For teaching or communicating instruction. See Barnes " ".
Adam Clarke's Commentary:
Verse 16. "All Scripture is given by inspiration of God" - This sentence is not well translated; the original pasa grafh qeokneustov wfilimov prov didaskalian, k. t. l. should be rendered: Every writing Divinely inspired is profitable for doctrine, &c. The particle kai, and, is omitted by almost all the versions and many of the fathers, and certainly does not agree well with the text. The apostle is here, beyond all controversy, speaking of the writings of the Old Testament, which, because they came by Divine inspiration, he terms the Holy Scriptures, 2 Tim. iii. 15; and it is of them alone that this passage is to be understood; and although all the New Testament came by as direct an inspiration as the Old, yet, as it was not collected at that time, not indeed complete, the apostle could have no reference to it.
The doctrine of the inspiration of the sacred writings has been a subject of much discussion, and even controversy, among Christians. There are two principal opinions on the subject:
1. That every thought and word were inspired by God, and that the writer did nothing but merely write as the Spirit dictated. 2. That God gave the whole matter, leaving the inspired writers to their own language; and hence the great variety of style and different modes of expression. But as I have treated this subject at large in my Introduction to the Four Gospels and Acts of the Apostles, I must refer the reader to that work.
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JW's now believe in The Rapture
by Oubliette injw's now believe in the rapture.
notice this curious doctrinal change in the controversial july 15th, 2013 watchtower: .
one of the events mentioned in these verses is the gathering of the chosen ones.
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Why does god kill children?
by Comatose ini was thinking about all the accounts in the bible that indicate god kills children as a punishment or teaching experience.
1. kills all of egypts firstborn sons, who were innocent kids who did nothing to him or his people, who had no control over the decisions pharoah made.
how many times have you read that account or thought about it without realizing the devastating pain dealt to all those parents, and remembered those were innocent kids?.
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Emery
ADCMS, also 2 Tim 3:16 is specifically talking about the Torah, not the New Testament in any way. The NT was compiled and cannonized around 300 years after 2 Tim was even written. Most fundamentalist Christians reason that God's might makes it right-- sorry but might does not make right, even with God.
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Apostate: From 279 Facebook friends to 81 overnight... thanks MOM!
by sosoconfused inthe drama continues, i log on to facebook this morning and notice that i have about 20 some odd personal messages from people calling me an apostate to they will return to me when i return to jehovah.. all of this based upon my brother informing others that i have "apostate thoughts".
my mother also encourage long-time famil friends to "unfriend" me because i have taken my stand on the side of satan... wow.
don't you just love this international brotherhood.
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More bad chronology from the Watch Tower Society
by Jeffro init seems that more often than not, when the watch tower society says something about biblical chronology, they're probably wrong.
this seems to be the case even for uncontroversial matters!
insight on the scriptures volume 1, page 584 states (bold formatting added):.
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It's All Your Fault - 9.15.13 wt Study Ed
by breakfast of champions in"in a similar way, at the beginning of the 20th century, there were a number of wrong expectations among true christians regarding the last days.
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3:1) for instance, in the year 1914, some thought that their being taken to heaven was imminent.
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Today is our 22nd anniversary!!!
by jeremiah18:5-10 ini just wanted to take a moment to acknowledge today as my 22nd wedding anniversary.
fortunately its the 5th one for my wife and i outside of the borg.
i've been working out of town, my job has moved me to tulsa, family soon to follow, but get to spend a happy day with my wife (enlightened ephesian) today.
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