Posts by BU2B

OneEyedJoe- LOL at angry birds on the tablet. I do the same thing! That or candy crush. I used to browse JWN, but now they restricted the Wi-FI to JW.org only

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November 8th Special Meeting

by Chris Tann in

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anyone have any leaks on this three hour meeting we are having early november?.

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BU2B

They just announced last night that the meeting will be 3 hours long and will be live streamed to the KH at 3 pm saturday. It will include a WT summary. There will be no sunday meeting.

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Why don't parents of an abused child go straight to police, why go to an elder first??

by FeelingFree in

i hope i don't come across as judgemental but having read a lot on the current child abuse cases and the different threads on here, i am left wondering why on earth a parent of an abuse victim would go to an elder with the problem first and not straight to police?.

as a parent myself i know that if anything like that happend to my child (this applies to when i was still an active jw as well as now) i would not hesitate in going to the authorities as soon as i found out, it wouldn't of crossed mine or my husbands mind to go to an elder.

maybe after we had reported it but definitely never as the first port of call.

BU2B

These cases need national attention. JWs need to know that millions of their donated dollars will be going to sex abuse settlements. Not to mention the millions that have already been shelled out in out of court settlements. They also need to see the lack of holy spirit on the GB's actions. They need to put themselves in the shoes of these parents and ask themselves, what would I do?

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their beliefs and practice's don't tally- tonights book study

by purrpurr in

tonights book study in part is about jesus throwing out the merchants and money lenders in the temple... how do they manage to tally that up with asking for funds for all their various projects?

it seems hardly a meeting goes by without some kind of money plea?

don't they realise that they are doing the same thing that jesus got so angry about and threw out of the temple?

BU2B

So true island man. I had the same exact thought yesterday. Same thing with how they define "uncleanness" They make up so many rules on what is uncleanness, when does it cross the line into gross uncleanness, when does it become greedy etc.. and add on many rules to define this. What about oral sex within marriage? How is that not a pharasaical man made rule? What about the prohibition on civilian alternative service? They had to make up rules about what was neutral and what was not.

They talk about how we do not have laws but we have principles. Arent principles supposed to be up to an individual to decide how to apply them? If a religious body determines exactly how principles should be applied, and makes rules based on principles, how is that any different than being under man made law again??

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Why don't parents of an abused child go straight to police, why go to an elder first??

by FeelingFree in

i hope i don't come across as judgemental but having read a lot on the current child abuse cases and the different threads on here, i am left wondering why on earth a parent of an abuse victim would go to an elder with the problem first and not straight to police?.

as a parent myself i know that if anything like that happend to my child (this applies to when i was still an active jw as well as now) i would not hesitate in going to the authorities as soon as i found out, it wouldn't of crossed mine or my husbands mind to go to an elder.

maybe after we had reported it but definitely never as the first port of call.

BU2B

Their attitude of not wanting to bring "reproach" has actually backfired. If they had encouraged the parents to go to the police, there would be no lawsuits.

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Why don't parents of an abused child go straight to police, why go to an elder first??

by FeelingFree in

i hope i don't come across as judgemental but having read a lot on the current child abuse cases and the different threads on here, i am left wondering why on earth a parent of an abuse victim would go to an elder with the problem first and not straight to police?.

as a parent myself i know that if anything like that happend to my child (this applies to when i was still an active jw as well as now) i would not hesitate in going to the authorities as soon as i found out, it wouldn't of crossed mine or my husbands mind to go to an elder.

maybe after we had reported it but definitely never as the first port of call.

BU2B

Also so many of these cases are from decades ago, people in their 40s reporting something from when they were kids. This is great and everyone should do it, but where are the current cases? You have to know that this is still going on right now! I would love to see parents go to the police first, not the elders.

They get you both ways though because if you appear in court against a pedo elder who does not have "2 witnesses" then you are taking your brother to court" If you warn other parents its slander! They make the victims and parents of victims into the bad guy, and the pedos as the victims.

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Name Some Stupid Watchtower Rules or Ideas

by minimus in

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there's a lot.. one rule that is dumb is that a brother must wear a suit for a sunday public talk that he is giving.

any other time, the brother could wear a suit coat with a different pair of pants and not be counseled for it.. another dumb idea is that you cannot date a person unless you seriously might marry them.

if you're on a date, you were supposed to always have a chaperone and holding hands might not be allowed as well as sitting together.. what other dumb rules and ideas can you add?.

BU2B

And yet this weeks Book study criticizes the Pharisees for-

The religious leaders buried God’s Law under a mass of man-made rules and regulations. The Sabbath law, for instance, simply forbade work on the Sabbath, setting that day aside for worship, spiritual refreshment, and rest. But the Pharisees made a burden of that law. They took it upon themselves to decide just what “work” meant. They labeled as work 39 different activities, such as reaping or hunting. These categories gave rise to endless questions. If a man killed a flea on the Sabbath, was he hunting? If he plucked a handful of grain to eat as he walked along, was he reaping? If he healed someone who was ill, was he working? Such questions were addressed with rigid, detailed rules.