Excellent points. Great thread!
Posts by BU2B
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8PROOF that the Watchtower is the TRUTH...Sunday's WT fallacy
by Separation of Powers ini thought the undenable proof was pretty evident in the watchtower study this past weekend.
no war, preaching work, disfellowshipping....yeah, that's pretty convincing evidence.. .
no war?
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New JW Podcast Show - Amazing Interview with Irwin Zalkin!
by God_Delusion inhello guys & gals!.
we've just launched our brand new episode, s01e01 - irwin zalkin, which we recorded last night.. you can listen to it right here - http://www.jwpodcast.org/2014/11/03/s01e01-irwin-zalkin.
in this ground-breaking bumper show, we interview irwin zalkin, the lawyer who filed and won this new child abuse case against the watchtower organisation, which saw the victim, jose lopez awarded $13.5 million.. i think you'll agree with me (after listening to the interview) that irwin really knows his 'watchtower' stuff!.
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BU2B
Amazing interview! 5 stars. A must listen.
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ARE JEHOVAHS WITNESSES CREATIONISTS OR EVOLUTIONISTS?
by Viva la Vida inthe answer to this question is not that easy or obvious as you might think.
if your answer is "creationists" you are wrong, they are evolutionists a rare breed of evolutionists, but evolutionists at last .. at this stage of my argumentation you might think i have lost my mind for stating jehovahs witnesses are evolutionists, but this might be because you are thinking as the wt has taught you to think.
the wt has presented a distorted view of the theory of evolution.
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BU2B
They believe in Creation but are not Creationists.
They believe in the Bible as Literally true but are not Fundamentalists.
They go to a place of "Christian" worship, but its not a Church.
They claimed for years that they were not a Religion.
I love the reasoning in thr OP, and might I add that not only did evoloution take place to make those few "kinds" transform in just a few years into the millions of species we see today, but also the plant eaters evolved into the carnivourous features we see today! Things like snake venom, the teeth of Lions, camoflage in animals, etc must have all evolved in a couple decades after the flood, since WT current light is that animals were all herbivores prior to 4000 years ago. Before that a spiders web must have been there to catch seeds! I guess a cheetah can run 70 mph to catch that grass and shrubbery!
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Rick Simons vs Irwin Zalkin
by Calebs Airplane inthey're both doing an excellent job... but which lawyer do you believe is currently best equipped to expose the watchtower's child sex abuse scandals and cover-ups?.
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BU2B
By the way I think both are great and there is no need to compare better or worse. Its like comparing a Bentley to a Rolls Royce! Or Fiji to Tahiti! :P
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Rick Simons vs Irwin Zalkin
by Calebs Airplane inthey're both doing an excellent job... but which lawyer do you believe is currently best equipped to expose the watchtower's child sex abuse scandals and cover-ups?.
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BU2B
I guess we dont deserve to have an opinion because we are not "trained in law" maybe we should not have an opinion on science because we are not "scientists". I am so sick of the condecending attitude some here have.
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Service meeting week of November 3rd! How to indoctrinate children
by stuckinarut2 inoh yep...here we go..... this weeks service meeting has a part designed to show how children should be indoctrinated and manipulated into going "out in service".
the part first asks for the disturbingly corny cartoon clip to be played on the big screen at the halls: "lets go out in service!".
(if you haven't watched it yet, please go to jw.org and watch it....you simply won't beleive it until you see it!).
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BU2B
Just shoot me now. I have 2 daughters age 5 years and 6 months, with a die hard JW wife. I am agnostic, yet am "stuck" in. I am expecting the pressure on me to indoctrinate them to mount. They are forcing me into the open. That is probably a good thing in the end. I HATE THIS CULT and its CONSTANT GUILT MANIPULATUION. I hope there is a hell and the GB go there.
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Name the GOOD things and NICE things about Jehovah's Witnesses
by stuckinarut2 inok, so in the interests of balance....(as it has rightly been pointed out that i am getting more bitter toward the org), can we think of any positive or nice things about jehovah's witnesses?.
just throwing this topic out there....... .
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BU2B
My wife was talking with her firend who has an infant the same age as ours, 6 months. They were both discussing how their JW family are cold to them and their grandchildren, having little to do with them, but the WORLDLY family was involved, visiting, giving of time and material gifts! The JW family is too wrapped up "pioneering".
They are WORSE than average, everyday people, and the good they do is either to look good, get brownie points. The genuine good they do would be done by them wheather they were JWs or not, and the JWs divert the charitable part of their heart into "pioneer work".
There is nothing unique to JWs that is good. Any kind and warm JWs are that way IN SPITE of the cult, not because of it.
Some have quit drugs, prostitution or drinking by becoming a JW, but this is not unique to them and the same result could have been attained by joining any other religion, or rehab.
They do help you to feel comfortable speaking in public and reading well because of the TMS. Thats all I got.
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Hypocritical video on jw.org "what's a real friend."
by stuckinarut2 inhave you watched the 4 min animated white board drawing video on jw.org called "what's a real friend?".
it is one of the most hypocritical pieces they have produced!.
it goes into detail explaining that real friends "don't judge you, dont talk about you behind your back, don't hold grudges, don't expect you to conform, and encourage individuality!".
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BU2B
What Data Dog said!! Also their definition of a true friend is the opposite of a good JW?? Is your shirt a little low cut? Skirt not past the knee? FOrgot to shave? Guess what? You will be gossiped about, and judged!!
Do you have doubts about 1914? 607? 1919? Blood transfusion doctrine? Child abuse policies? Either you keep these to yourself and not tell even your spouse or best friend, or else face the loss of their CONDITIONAL love and friendship, whether you are DF or no. Like DD said, thats no way to be a friend. THey MUST cut you off as a friend for having non approved THoughts!! How crazy is that! There are no friends as conditional or Judgemental or intolerant as JWs!! My wife is shunning her "best friend" right now because of a decision 3 MEN made! Pitiful.
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BU2B comments on "Are you convinced you have the truth? Why?" WT article.
by BU2B ini want to start doing a wt review on certain articles.
i think we need as much discussion as possible breaking down these mind control sessions.
i cannot compare with blondie, but i will do my best.
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BU2B
I send a big hug your way SIAR2 From the other side of the planet in the opposite hemisphere! Although we are do far away, we share such similar thoughts and circumstances. It is getting harder to sit through these meetings. If only time machines were real.... Lets just say I would have a good use or 2 with it. Keep your head up my friend.
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Has anyone actually read the study wt for sun nov 2nd????!!!
by stuckinarut2 ino m g...(yes that is a very childish reaction...but i couldn't think of a more appropriate expression!).
if you haven't yet read it...please do so..... it is so ridiculous!
so leading, so distorted, and full of "bait and switch" techniques.. "prove you have the truth"..by seeing how neutral witnesses were in war times?
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