Posts by BU2B

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This is scarier than climate change

by Hortensia in

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-30197085.

let's just make a bad situation worse, ok?.

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BU2B

This is the scientific term for the chemtrails you hear about. Thanks for posting

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"The governing body at that time..."

by OneEyedJoe in

so i'm listening to the regional manager give his mid week talk and he's going over acts 15 where they're dealing with the issues that arrose from the jewish christians wanting the gentile christians to adhear too the mosaic law, so some of the apostles gathered to hash it out.

it struck me, though, that he kept using the phrase "the governing body at that time" to describe the apostles and older men who decided on the matter.

once he even slipped up and said apostles, then corrected it to the gb.. i'm thinking that they've actually gone so far as to put it in his outline to make sure its beaten into the r/f that the gb's power is somehow based in scripture.

BU2B

We just had our regional manager visit as well. The smoking thing was brought up as well as he discussed various "refinements".

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2 Faced JWs and Thanksgiving

by minimus in

jw
friends

many jws enjoy turkey on thanksgiving day and are often discreet about their indulgences.

why be two faced?

why try to excuse it?.

BU2B

THERE is no real reason given for JWs not to celebrate the holiday. It always seemed like this fell under, its a worldly hoiday and we are no part of the world type catergory. JWs dont celebrate anything else so the feel awkward doing thanksgiving.

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What Made You Finally Wake Up?

by Tenacious in

hello to all.

i've been on this site for a couple of weeks now posting here and there but have not had the opportunity to read about many of the regular members and what led up to their leaving the wt.. i understand that some of you (i'm part of this club) may not be able to disclose many details and i can appreciate that.. i'd love to hear what was it that finally made you renounce what is and hopefully soon to be "was" the wt.. i truly look forward to having good discussions.. thank you to all for your kind participation.. .

BU2B

Its lots of things, but first I came to the realization that even if the "Paradise Earth" was true, it was not a place I would want to be. It sounded more like hell. I did not want to spend eternity eating fruit and going to endless meetings. I could see that it would be an opressive place. When I first lurked on this site, I used the search feature to look up stories from bethel. If that was Jehovahs house I reasoned, I would not want to live in that regimented environment extended worldwide. After that the UN scandal and the surrounding lies and hypocrisy really started me down the road to real research and questioning everything objectively.

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Anyone in Buffalo?

by Simon in

snow storms look intense.

natural disasters and weather extremes can hit hard and fast.. hope you're all staying warm and safe if you're in the middle of it.. be careful of trying to shovel the driveway - even a couple of ft of snow is a lot of weight to move.

when it's 6ft there's little point (roads will be impassible).. .

BU2B

I'm here in buffalo! this storm has mainly affected the southern part of the city and southern and Eastern suburbs. I live in the northern part of the city. I only have around 9 inches of snow to deal with. 10 minutes down the road they have almost 7 feet in some spots! Cars are buried, snow coming up to the top of peoples front doors! The same areas that have the 5-7 feet are expected to get 2 more feet today! The nature of lake effect snow here is such that on one street you can have bare pavement, a few blocks over disaster! So far 8 deaths have been blamed on this storm. One man was found dead in his car buried under 20 feet of snow. a few miles to my north there is just a dusting of snow. some people have been trapped inside since Tuesday and probably will be for a couple more days. I hope they have enough food. Half the area has a ban on travel. The national guard has been deployed. The good news is, very few power outages.

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How Do You Answer Someone Who Says JWs Are Not False Prophets?

by minimus in

jw
friends

it used to bother me that people would say that about my well meaning religion.

how do you prove that witnesses are indeed, false prophets?.

BU2B

I would answer that they are false prophets by their own definition!

Awake!, October 8, 1968, p. 23 " True, there have been those in times past who predicted an 'end of the world,' even announcing a specific date. Some have gathered groups of people with them and fled to the hills or withdrawn into their houses waiting for the end. Yet, nothing happened. The 'end' did not come. They were guilty of false prophesying. Why? What was missing? Missing was the full measure of evidence required in fulfillment of Bible prophecy. Missing from such people were God's truths and the evidence that he was guiding and using them. But what about today? Today we have the evidence required, all of it. And it is overwhelming!

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Who is copying who? Jws or Mormons?

by stuckinarut2 in

it amazes me!.

witnesses go on about how "blessed we are to have the website and all the content from jehovah etc".

but i have been noticing the parallels between jws and the mormons!.

BU2B

I think the JWs are jealous of the Mormons success and copy them. The Mormons had family home evening, then the GB copied it and instituted family worship evening. Even the name is almost identical.

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Examining Genesis . Would your JW's ?

by Phizzy in

i was talking to a jw a short time ago and it emerged in conversation that he believed in the literal truth of the bible's first book, genesis.. no great surprise there, but he said something pertinent, he said, "if you don't, then the whole of our belief falls apart".. i was wondering if this may be of use to those who are endeavouring to "wake up" jw family or friends.

a proper examination of genesis could be encouraged in a gentle way, raising questions the j.w's must answer, ( you may have to insist they answer them, not shove them aside as they love to do ), and eventually they will have to get to the point, if they are at all honest, that genesis is simply not literal truth.. then, their whole body of belief is undermined.. simples !.

well, the idea is, the execution may be impossible, but i just thought the idea may be helpful ?.

BU2B

This tactic strikes at the heart not only of JWism, but also belief in the Bible and Christianity. You would be saving them time by killing "3 birds with one stone" if you can pull it off. Some though will dismiss everything and just say its a miracle! God could do anything!

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