I don't believe they actually will NEED the end to be around the corner to exist. Yes many would leave, but many would stay if they were convinced that they were living the way god wanted them too. I don't believe the Mormons have a doomsday, end is nigh mentality yet they are a successful, destructive cult with millions of members.
Posts by BU2B
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18What if WT will claim, that Jehovah has pulled a "Jonah and Nineveh" on them?
by prologos inwt seems to be helpless in really dealing with the failed prophecies, pending dates, overlapping groups--.. what if they declare victory, blame jehovah, in that he allowed the nations to come to their senses and not further escalate the use of weaponry, "destroying [life on] the earth"?
in a second fulfillment of .
the "repentant ninevites, disappointed jonah" bible story?
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What if WT will claim, that Jehovah has pulled a "Jonah and Nineveh" on them?
by prologos inwt seems to be helpless in really dealing with the failed prophecies, pending dates, overlapping groups--.. what if they declare victory, blame jehovah, in that he allowed the nations to come to their senses and not further escalate the use of weaponry, "destroying [life on] the earth"?
in a second fulfillment of .
the "repentant ninevites, disappointed jonah" bible story?
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BU2B
They wouldn't do this anytime soon, but the organizations main intrest is self preservation. How many would have thought in 1926 after 60% left the group due to a false prophecy that it would grow to the extent it has? What is more, who from back then would even recognize it? The borg will morph and evolve and do anything it takes to survive. In 60 years they might pull this card out, who knows? They will never run out of excuses and twisted reasonings. The only question is, how long will people keep buying it?
The cynic in me says theirs a sucker born every minute, so there will always be someone swallowing the crap even if it is scaled down to a large degree.
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Feb Kingdom Ministry 2015: Irate Householders - why so angry?
by Trailer Park Pioneer infeb kingdom ministry 2015, irate householders, "we don't apologize for our work", "did they hear rumors about jws"?
why so angry?
blood or disfellowshipping?.
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BU2B
What galls me is that ANY negative piece of information about WT that could upset the householder must be a wild unfounded UNTRUE rumor. What if the householder was upset by the recent judgements against the BORG for child abuse? That is not a rumor, nor untrue. JWs have not been prepared to address legitimate grievances a householder may have since most JWs have NOT EVEN HEARD of it! They are so brainwashed they would likely dismiss it as all an apostate lie, even though the court transcripts are available for all! Jws are clueless about their history as well as current scandals and therefore have no real option but to hang their heads and run from a knowledgeable householder. -
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Is shunning effective?
by rebel8 indoes shunning accomplish its objectives:.
make the person repent?.
deter others from committing similar offenses in the future?.
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BU2B
It works as far as information control is concerned, but fails when it comes to their official reasons for it.
They say they have the arrangement to protect the congregation and to restore the sinner to Jehovah.
Shunning helps neither as it only encourages "sinners" to keep their actions hidden at all costs, and since shunning amounts to emotional blackmail, returning "sinners" likely will be returning, not out of a heartfelt desire to restore their relationship with Jehovah, but instead to reunite with family and friends. This leaves the organization filled with insincere faking JWs.
Also, some who see how nasty their former friends and family really can be and how little they care while they are DF can move them to find unconditional friends on the outside and leave the JW life forever.
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Where is Everyone????
by truthlover inmissing a lot of the oldies and goodies -- is this site so new, no one has signed on yet?
i am confused... but then, i will have to wait and see what happens.. somehow - change is not the best option but we adjust..have most of the users gone to other locations?.
tl.
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Hello all! I am back and with a new avatar but im still the same old BU2B -
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An unconfirmed report of a JW Murder in Mozambique
by Slidin Fast ina couple from the uk, international construction volunteers, were living in a trailer whilst building a translation facility in mozambique.
a gang attacked them with machetes and stole everything they owned.
the couple were flown back to the branch in south africa.
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So sad. I dont know what else to say. Its always the good ones who go too soon. -
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An unconfirmed report of a JW Murder in Mozambique
by Slidin Fast ina couple from the uk, international construction volunteers, were living in a trailer whilst building a translation facility in mozambique.
a gang attacked them with machetes and stole everything they owned.
the couple were flown back to the branch in south africa.
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BU2B
I cant vouch for the validity of this, but if true it is a terrible tragedy and one can only wonder.. Where was the most powerful force in the universe on that day? Taking its lunch break? -
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anyone seen outlaw ?
by stan livedeath inive not seen him on this new site--or do i need new specs.?
its usually hard to miss the old bugger
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Please post new forum feedback or questions here
by Simon inwell, the switchover happened - there were a couple of things i had to fix which meant the posting was disabled for longer than i planned but it's now enabled and some people have already posted.. if you have any questions about the new format or suggestions on how to improve it, please post them here.. if you are having trouble signing in or posting then you'll need to email me instead.. many thanks to everyone for their patience during the changeover !.
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BU2B
Hello again! After many days of not being able to login, I am back live thanks to a password reset email.. Thanks guys! -
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My "Un-Witnessing" Comments for this Upcoming Sunday's Watchtower.
by objectivetruth ini won't be there (fortunately) but perhaps my warm encouragement and hard work, in preparing these comments will help someone, who has the burden of attending the meetings, give a good un-witness.. 3. while on earth, how did jesus follow his fathers example?.
answer - jesus at john 9:4 gave us a very important reminder, he said "we must do the works of the one who sent me while it is day; the night is coming when no man can work.
" the figurative night that jesus was likely referencing was amos 5:18 where it says "woe to those who yearn for the day of jehovah!
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BU2B
I see the "un-witnessing" part of your comments, but unfortunately unless you are more direct it will go over most of their heads. They would congratulate you afterwards about how much research you must have done and how great the comments were.