These Ideas are very useful to me as well! Thanks guys! Giordano! Really great ideas.
Posts by BU2B
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37I think my fade has hit a rut. Do I need to grow a pair?
by konceptual99 inso here i am after about 18 months of wake up.
the first 6 months were a rollercoster of feelings as my whole belief system unravelled.
the last year has been more stable but things seem like they are just stalling now.. my wife is aware of many of my feelings although i have held back the fact that i am pretty close to denying all belief in any kind of god.
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Well my JW elder dad has lost his job...
by BU2B inas a little background, my dad became a jw in 1980 i think, went to bethel, married my mom in 86' went back for another year and then i came along... he worked in the auto repair shop at bethel while he was there, and upon leaving, continued working in this field.
my whole life they have been the type of jw parents that tell you how you will never get to high school, never graduate it, never get married in this system, never have children in this system etc.. i say this to illustrate the end is just around the corner attitude they have always had, probably because they fully bought/buy into the hype at the conventions/wt articles.
my father has no plan in place for retirement, and he is physically slowing down doing such hard laborious work.
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BU2B
Thanks for all the comments guys and gals. I just wanted to add that my wife is completely on my side in this, we both agree there is no way this would work out, especially without them truly exhausting all of their options first.
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Well my JW elder dad has lost his job...
by BU2B inas a little background, my dad became a jw in 1980 i think, went to bethel, married my mom in 86' went back for another year and then i came along... he worked in the auto repair shop at bethel while he was there, and upon leaving, continued working in this field.
my whole life they have been the type of jw parents that tell you how you will never get to high school, never graduate it, never get married in this system, never have children in this system etc.. i say this to illustrate the end is just around the corner attitude they have always had, probably because they fully bought/buy into the hype at the conventions/wt articles.
my father has no plan in place for retirement, and he is physically slowing down doing such hard laborious work.
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BU2B
As a little background, my Dad became a JW in 1980 I think, went to Bethel, married my mom in 86' went back for another year and then I came along..
He worked in the auto repair shop at Bethel while he was there, and upon leaving, continued working in this field. My whole life they have been the type of JW parents that tell you how you will never get to high school, never graduate it, never get married in this system, never have children in this system etc.
I say this to illustrate the end is just around the corner attitude they have always had, probably because they fully bought/buy into the hype at the conventions/WT articles. My father has NO plan in place for retirement, and he is physically slowing down doing such hard laborious work. My Mom has not worked secularly in 30 years! She has been stay at home, and pioneering most of that time. I have no brothers and sisters I might add.
His job has been slowing down for a year or two now, and has been getting sent home early due to lack of work. He has just been laid off and I feel terrible for them, but instead of looking for jobs they both are having this sit back and wait on Jehovah attitude. My dad keeps saying how now he will be able to go "in the ministry" more now.
My mom has been talking to my wife, dropping hints about how nice it would be to move in with my family. Keep in mind my parents are UBER-HARDCORE JWs! I mean my mom gets up at 5:00 am everyday to do personal study, and meeting prep! I was raised where you never missed a meeting unless you were basically in the hospital, and never missed a week in FS! I on the other hand am slow fading, and trying to help my wife awaken and detatch from the cult mentality. I dont need them around the house leaving "loving reminders" and "encouragement", foiling what I am attempting to do!
It irritates me so much that the WT has been telling people that the end is around the next corner! DOnt get a career, education, retirement since this system wond be here! Just like the 69' Awake said "YOU WILL NEED TO FACE THE FACT YOU WILL NOT GROW OLD IN THIS SYSTEM OF THINGS!" Lies lies lies. Then they expect the similiarly poor children to subsidize them.
The thing is that they are not elderly, my mom has skill as a seamstress. Even if she got a medium paying job and my dad was on unemployment for a while until he could find work, they could make it. She would rather just continue with her pioneer lifestyle, hoping others take care of her needs. I feel bad that he lost his job, and I understand that it is hard to get back into the workforce afert 3 decades, but shouldnt looking for employment be the first thing she should be doing instead of trying to move in with her sons family? Also they could downsize, sell their home which has good value, and move into an economical apartment. Even the money from the sale would help them for a long while.
The WT truly ruins lives. It is sad to see how many bought into the promise that they would never grow old sick, and as a result have no plan for what should be the best years of someones life.. Yet the WT keeps at it telling the next generation of dubbies the same load of BS.
Your comments, thoughts are appreciated.
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Who Are Your Past Circuit Overseers? It's a small world..
by mentallyfree31 inwho were your past circuit overseers?
i'm sure a lot of us actually know mutual people, as the co's relocate all over the country.. here's a few from the southeast us: (let me know if you recognize any names and post yours too please...).
ellwood johnson (new york/philadelphia area for several years also).
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Found sheep- yes I was referring to Dan and Julie Rourke. we were their first circuit. I thought they were the warmest, most down to earth, and humble CO and wife I have ever experienced. He was actually approachable and made everyone feel at ease. Didn't have a bad word to say about anyone. He actually did the wedding talk for my sister in law.
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Who Are Your Past Circuit Overseers? It's a small world..
by mentallyfree31 inwho were your past circuit overseers?
i'm sure a lot of us actually know mutual people, as the co's relocate all over the country.. here's a few from the southeast us: (let me know if you recognize any names and post yours too please...).
ellwood johnson (new york/philadelphia area for several years also).
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Hartman, Casino, Melvin Mallett, Sherman, Punko, Rourke, Davey. Anybody find these familiar?
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Jehovah's Witness juror - The actions of this juror are a complete disgrace, said Prince Georges County States Attorney Angela Alsobrooks.
by Sol Reform inhttp://www.csnwashington.com/article/juror-email-leads-mistrial.
juror email leads to mistrial.
that juror now faces a possible contempt of court charge.the trial of a man involved in a high speed crash that killed a prince george's county police officer last year ended in a mistrial.. one of the jurors told the judge via email thursday morning that judging others was a violation of her religion as a jehovah's witness, news4's prince george's county bureau chief tracee wilkins reported.. kevon darnell neal, 23, was charged with vehicular manslaughter and fleeing and eluding following the death of officer adrian morris, 23.. morris and his partner were pursuing a stolen silver acura when their cruiser ran off interstate 95 near the powder mill road exit in august 2012. morris died after being ejected from the vehicle.
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BU2B
What a fine witness this is to the local press, fellow Jurors, the Judge and all who read the article. This will just make more want to flock to the truth!
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DO GOD'S LAWS ONLY APPLY TO CERTAIN ZIP/POST CODES?
by The Searcher inaccording to the gb's teachings, one in particular certainly does - shunning!.
fact: according to the zealots in the org, the bible categorically demands that those who leave/disagree with the gb must be shunned - no compromise - and failure to comply will result in very strong discipline for the offender.. most witnesses haven't woken up to the truth that god's "law" on shunning is really flexible, depending on your postcode/zip code!!.
witness parents who live in zone a of their town, have a baptized 17 year old son.
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BU2B
Good point Searcher.. This as you are well aware is a byproduct of legalism as well as systemic pharasaical thinking.
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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 01-05-2014 WT Study (VIGILANT PRAYER)
by blondie inbe vigilant with a view to prayers.
present-day christians face a similar challenge because the long night of satans wicked system of things is now at the darkest point in its history.
and how important is prayer with regard to my salvation?.
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Good comments. Thanks Blondie
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I can't believe how sexist the Borg is!!!
by quellycatface injust letting off a bit more steam.
why can't sisters look after the library or the sound.
what makes the brothers so damned special???.
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Ironically, it can be more justified scripturally for women to carry mics, do stage, sound, accounts etc, than to give student talks ar comment at the meetings. Paul said that women were to keep silent in the comgregation, and that it was shameful for them to speak. If women are to keep silent, how exactly is commenting scriptural? On the other hand how are women doing accounts, territory, sound and stage unscriptural?
(disclaimer) I just say this for arguments sake.. I personally believe it is mostly BS.
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Clueless Attempt at Information Control In New Brochure
by LostGeneration inon page 28 of the "who are doing the watchtower's will today" brochure they outline their website, and how great and grand it is.
then down in the lower right corner they print this:.
a note of caution:.
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BU2B
This deserves a bump since it has just ben studied. Great thread!