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  WTBS- portrait of a narcissist?

  by SophieG in

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  so i recently discovered someone i have known for a while is a classic grade a narcissist!

  took me a while to figure it out and scared the daylights out of me....huge learning lesson!

  but it got me thinking if the org could be considered a narc too.

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  It is ironic but I noticed the odd behavior in this individual over time while dealing with him. I was involved with him for a short period of time many years ago...broke up with him, but he'd keeping popping into my life periodically. I was withholding (sweet) Narcissistic Supply ( NS), not intentionally but as a natural reaction to the bad treatment as self preservation. Basically I was a strong emotional force resisting a weak one. It was not until a psychiatrist suggested to me the possibility of his narcissism that I was able to understand AND manipulate him enough to get him off my back. This also helped me realize that my abusive JW ex had narc "tendencies"! I took my NS away when I left him twice and unintentionally manipulated him away from me. The sick thing is they are like junkies! You eventually learn how to administer the "drug" to where they don't want it or go they seek another form of NS! The WTBS is the cult narc! They abuse the same way... They have all the characteristics! But you CAN manipulate them too to get away! You end up the winner!!! YES!
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  WTBS- portrait of a narcissist?

  by SophieG in

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  so i recently discovered someone i have known for a while is a classic grade a narcissist!

  took me a while to figure it out and scared the daylights out of me....huge learning lesson!

  but it got me thinking if the org could be considered a narc too.

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  Oohhh...baltar yah! I could see that!
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  WTBS- portrait of a narcissist?

  by SophieG in

  1. jw
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  so i recently discovered someone i have known for a while is a classic grade a narcissist!

  took me a while to figure it out and scared the daylights out of me....huge learning lesson!

  but it got me thinking if the org could be considered a narc too.

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  SophieG

  So I recently discovered someone I have known for a while is a classic grade a narcissist! Took me a while to figure it out and scared the daylights out of me....huge learning lesson!

  But it got me thinking if the org could be considered a Narc too. I came across this:

  http://samvak.tripod.com/journal79.html

  Very interesting read....I am sure that I'm kinda late on the discovery but I wanted to share it anyway!

  Oldly enough my reaction to both this person and the org was the same: RUN SOPHIE, RUN!!!!!
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  I dont see why people stay in the JWs ?

  by snare&racket in

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  i really think it is a misconception to say leaving the jw's will destroy you and/or your family.. .

  many people here stay as jw's despite posting very opposing views and beliefs.

  i understand the difficulty of family reprisal.

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  I would love to just write a DA letter and be done with it. Frankly I want them to know so they can all sit back and wonder why I left. I think that would be a bold statement, Plus, I don't like that fading-fake feeling. I am ready to go. I have not been to the meetings for at least a year and I had been fading way before that.
  
  But my extended family is just coming to terms with one member who was DF and another who has left. I know I have to cushion the blow for them, kinda prep them slowly. I am convinced that when they slowly realize I left, it will make other family members think, REALLY THINK!

  My mother is a wonderful kind, "faithful" sister. She is much loved in the local area where we live. She is elderly. I have to think of her. She will not be one of those parents who will rage and shun me, she will get depressed because she knows she should. I must protect her! Sometimes I have to take her to the SA/DC. I suffer for her! *tears*

  I do know though, to go regularly just to keep family ties would drive me so insane. I think my head would eventually explode in the meeting!
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  Adventures In Freaking Out My JW Friends

  by SophieG in

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  2. experiences

  *hi guys!

  just sharing this across the forums*.

  i drove one of my jw friends crazy.

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  Outforgood: That is amazing. That was the exact thing I said to my friend…that she could not see it because she was too close to it. With your wife it’s the same thing, she can recognize it at a distance, see that it is bad/wrong, but even though she is in the SAME situation it would be inconceivable to her!

  I know I did not notice it at first when I was in, but over a period of time, I was REACTING to the control without knowing that was what was happening to me.

  Which leads me to wonder: Are some of us born/trained with an GOOD inherent form of self-control that helps us made good decisions and keeps us out of trouble? And because we already have that, when unrealistic, inappropriate forms of control present themselves, we instinctively start to pay attention and react to them?

  I respond very well to the right type of control…but if I get a sense that I am being controlled when I don’t need to be, I start an inner revolt…next I start to speak up!!!! (YOU ARE NOT THE BOSS OF ME)

  (If you guys could have seen my face at some of the meetings when something was said to keep us in line…hilarious!!!)
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  Adventures In Freaking Out My JW Friends

  by SophieG in

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  2. experiences

  *hi guys!

  just sharing this across the forums*.

  i drove one of my jw friends crazy.

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  SophieG

  *Hi guys! Just sharing this across the forums*

  I drove one of my JW friends crazy. I did it because I wanted to plant a seed. I have a sneaky suspicion I did, because she is a thinker and as much as she will try to not see it, subconsciously I think she will start to notice. She won’t be able to help herself.

  So I started with something benign. Like those “real-life” examples for every time there is an important point the Watchtower wants folks to get. I always questioned those, because they seemed so similar to what we read in newsstand magazines. How can we even verify that these people really exist? She says: the slave does not lie???? Oh boy! I had to get away from that, because she’d flip out.

  I went for the Mind Control techniques next, because I felt like doctrinal issues would be too much. I was trying to show her ways that JWs are controlled without their awareness. For example thought control. You are always told what to think, it’s constantly repeated for emphasis, you can’t have a thought that questions this and if you do, you are a bad servant of Jehovah. I asked her: I thought we were supposed to test the inspired sayings and make sure of what is true? So wait... when I am doing what the bible says I CAN do I am a bad person??? I think her brain somersaulted.

  We kept going back and forth it was weird. Even though she kept trying to get out of the conversation a few times, it was like she could not. Every time she tried the apostate thing I never went there, I kept emphasizing ways of thought control.

  
  I don’t THINK that as JWs we realize how much we don’t THINK for ourselves until someone brings it to our attention. You are always TOLD WHAT/HOW TO THINK/WHAT TO SAY…. And God forbid you have a doubt…ROOT IT OUT! It’s so controlling and conforming. People SHOULD be asking, WHY can't think for myself???

  But no one sees it till it’s brought to their attention and when it is, IT SCARES THE CRAP OUT OF THEM!!! In real life if you doubt something you would investigate! Outside of JW environment you’d say: HUH? But inside the JW world we just take for granted what we are told to think. It’s inconceivable that “the slave” could do something wrong!!!! Least of all try to control us and WHY??? (That’s another wormhole)
  
  I know what I said was making sense. It’s just that I think it scares her to hear that! Now that I presented that to her will she start to notice all the red flags to look for?

  Last thing she said: I am blocking your number. I think I freaked her out. Another bites the dust!
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  Why is this saying not included in JW wedding services?

  by truthseeker in

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  so simple, yet it could have prevented so many broken marriages if someone had just said something.... .

  "therefore, if any man can show any just cause why they may not lawfully be joined together let him speak now or else hereafter forever hold his peace".

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  It was said at my wedding. Why do I remember?
  
  Because I turned around to see if anyone would speak up and stop us!
  
  I have heard it a JW weddings. Trust me, aint nobody standing up to stop you from what you're about to do. I wish folks did though!
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  Letter from my mother

  by Las Malvinas son Argentinas in

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  i've been officially disowned.

  translated from the original:.

  "my daughter,.

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  SophieG

  I read your post and I truly feel for you.

  From what you posted your mom sounds angry , probably misplaced anger?

  Nevertheless, as someone said earlier, the best revenge is to live a great life...and despite all the venom...try to shows love to your mom.

  Sophie
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  Code Words for Fade Mode?

  by SophieG in

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  there has got to be some kind of code word system to find out if someone you know is in "fade mode"!

  lol!!!

  what do you do when you suspect a jw is on the way out?...you may notice that they don't talk about meetings or service on social media...they don't even list jw as their religion.

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  Billy says: "I'm attending university fulltime." works for me

  Is this how you would identify yourself to someone who you think is fading?

  Glander says: How about, "I'm just taking a break while they figure out what the fuck the truth is and then stay with it for longer than 18 goddam months!"

  LOLOLOL!!!!! Now I would love to use this!!!

  Phizzy says:…..I guess if we could bring back some old disused Dubspeak and pepper our speech with it, if challenged we could always laugh it off, but it would flag up to a fellow fader that we were not fully a JW drone.

  My brain is too fried to even go that far back…

  Dreamgolpfer: I say...." i golf on Saturday and Sundays"
  That is awesome

  I think I will start the conversation with: Yeah…I missed the DC…I was on a spiritual vacay…
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  Code Words for Fade Mode?

  by SophieG in

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  there has got to be some kind of code word system to find out if someone you know is in "fade mode"!

  lol!!!

  what do you do when you suspect a jw is on the way out?...you may notice that they don't talk about meetings or service on social media...they don't even list jw as their religion.

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  LostGeneration said:“If they are a real aggressive fader you might hear a "I'm taking some time for myself right now"…

  Actually I have told people I took a spiritual vacation! LOL!

  How about- Sparlock Rules!

  I ACTUALLY LIKE THAT! I may even go as far as posting something obnoxious on Facebook just to see who gets it! LOLOL!!!

  Red Piller: I read your post. That would be kinda cool….folks would be wondering what’s up with the crazy yellow ties!!!