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  Future Baby-Mama in a Rage!

  by SophieG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  sosoconfused mentioned this vaguely in his thread and it upset me... i asked him to post where i could find the information, trust me i went looking!

  now lets read this:.

  http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20121215/view-of-in-vitro-fertilization/.

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  SophieG

  JGNAT! LOLOL! Thank you…I needed to be soothed!
  I know I am throwing a tantrum! It’s a good thing I am at work, because I would have been cursing up a storm if I was at home.
  
  Heaven: OMG! Well GOOD. Maybe they need to stop having kids so the whole Org can just die off! But I am having my baby, dangit!
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  Future Baby-Mama in a Rage!

  by SophieG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  sosoconfused mentioned this vaguely in his thread and it upset me... i asked him to post where i could find the information, trust me i went looking!

  now lets read this:.

  http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20121215/view-of-in-vitro-fertilization/.

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  Sosoconfused mentioned this vaguely in his thread and it upset me… I asked him to post where I could find the information, trust me I WENT LOOKING! Thank you sosoconfused.

  Now let’s read this:

  http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20121215/view-of-in-vitro-fertilization/

  "The development of IVF opened the way to other procedures that definitely conflict with God’s thinking as reflected in the Scriptures. For example, a woman’s eggs might be fertilized with sperm from a man who is not her husband. She might then allow the resulting embryos to be implanted in her. (Lesbian couples sometimes resort to this procedure.) Or a husband’s sperm might be used to fertilize the eggs from a woman who is not his wife. The husband’s wife might then allow the resulting embryos to be implanted in her.

  In a variation that some term “embryo adoption,” the embryos placed in a wife’s womb involve neither her eggs nor her husband’s sperm. In yet another variation, a married couple’s eggs and sperm are fertilized outside the womb by IVF. The resulting embryos are then implanted in the womb of a surrogate, a woman who carries the baby and delivers it for them. *

  Those reproductive procedures are unacceptable to God’s servants out of respect for his direction: “You must not give your emission as semen to the wife of your associate to become unclean by it.” (Lev. 18:20, 29; Prov. 6:29) When fertilization involving eggs or sperm (or both) from someone not within the marital union occurs, this amounts to what the Bible terms por·nei′a, sexual immorality. Those procedures are a gross misuse of the sexual organs.—Matt. 5:32; 1 Cor. 5:11; 6:9, 18; Heb. 13:4"

  I mentioned earlier that I was upset….now I am in a RAGE!
  When I look at the “scriptural basis” for the reasoning, I can’t help but for the first time acknowledge that the bible writers definitely DID NOT EXPECT for people to become so scientifically advanced. It also has definitely made me cross over to: I don’t know if I still want to believe in God and here is why:

  I am in my 40’s and I STILL want a child. (I won’t post why I did not have one for the same of anonymity.) But it is a deep desire that I am realizing that I may make some serious decisions to fulfill. I am working on my Plans A, B and C. So because I may not have a mate, or can’t get pregnant by sexual intercourse, I have to sacrifice not fulfilling a dream??? Thank you Jehovah (insert sarcasm) for letting those 8 guys in Brooklyn know that if I did choose IVF I would be considered as someone who committed porneia. Which is interesting since I would have been impregnated by a syringe and not a penis. But no, 8 men, (directed by Jehovah) have tried to take away a right from me. Thanks Jah, who in the first place created me with this desire…

  
  
  OH WAIT…I am not in anymore! And thank (insert new god?) Because I would have flipped out if I read this. How DARE THEY????????? This is such a personal decision and to tie it in with PORNEIA just takes the cake for me!
  
  Maybe I am too emotional right now and I can’t see straight…maybe you guys can set me straight. But I am sorry, this has taken my anti-JW-ness to a whole new level.
  
  It’s true what they say: It takes something personal to wake you up. If I was in… THIS would have done it!
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  My wife is feeling uncomfortable about the NEW LIGHT

  by sosoconfused in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so my wife is aware that i am totally disillusioned and i am having problems with lots of things.

  one day she can see the crap(such as this past watchtower question from readers about ivf... what a pile of insanity.

  if someone carries me and my wifes baby i have committed porneia rofl!!!

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  SophieG

  ^^^
  
  THANK YOU!
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  My wife is feeling uncomfortable about the NEW LIGHT

  by sosoconfused in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so my wife is aware that i am totally disillusioned and i am having problems with lots of things.

  one day she can see the crap(such as this past watchtower question from readers about ivf... what a pile of insanity.

  if someone carries me and my wifes baby i have committed porneia rofl!!!

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  Sosoconfused:
  
  Which WT edition was this in:

  such as this past watchtower question from readers about IVF... what a pile of insanity. If someone carries me and my wifes baby I have committed PORNEiA

  Thanks,
  
  Sophie
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  Sing it sister...

  by cedars in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it amazes me how many jdubs feel comfortable posting videos of themselves (or their children) singing kingdom songs for the whole world to see on youtube.. this lady actually puts some effort into it.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikpeixixlo4.

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  She's not too bad...she is actually putting emotion into the song...most people dont SING at the hall. And the ones that think they are singing/screeching need to be shot.

  I hope she does that vibrato in the hall during the song and throws everyone off.
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  Go Gilead Airplane! Is it real or photoshopped?

  by Iamallcool in

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  A CONTINENTAL/UNITED BOEING AIRCRAFT TO BOOT!
  
  Now they have really ticked me off.
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  Music Upon Your Exit

  by RAYZORBLADE in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i know this topic has been touched upon from time to time.

  i haven't been on here regularly in many years, but i know what it is like for many; or those that are on their way of exiting the organization.. what songs do you recall or remember during your exodus from the wtbts ??.

  i left mentally in the late autumn of 1983; apparently (i don't know officially...but does it really matter?

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  It's my life. It's now or never. I ain't gonna live forever. I just wanna live while I'm alive!

  Gopher beat me to it. I think I busted an eardrum blasting that one!

  "You better stand tall
  When they're calling you out
  Don't bend, don't break
  Baby, don't back down
  
  It's my life
  It's now or never
  'Cause I ain't gonna live forever
  I just wanna live while I'm alive"
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  For the Faders...

  by Kool Jo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is for my fellow faders...just checking to see how it is going for ya'll?.

  i know it can be tough...my fade has been going well thus far...hopefully it remains the same!.

  people may think of you differently...as being distracted...no longer loving jehovah...giving in to the world ect.... now i couldn't care less what any of them think of me...i went into town a few days go where some jw's were doing street work at the local market and i walked by them like they never even existed .

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  I think my fade is going okay.

  I stopped meetings late spring of last year and never looked back. I told an close elder friend of mine to just leave me alone. I am happy, I am not bothering anyone and I just want to live in peace. So far no calls or visits from any elder in my hall. And I was pretty popular.

  My family is "feeling it". I act like nothing has changed. They seem to be okay, so far.
  
  Happy Fading!
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  What was the best KISS you ever experienced?

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the phone rang in the art gallery and i answered.. the voice was a young woman's.. one of her two parrots had died rather suddenly.. she wanted a colorful frame for the memorial portrait.

  could we accomodate her?.

  the remaining bird was sulking.. i suggested parrots without partners.. i don't where my tasteless jokes come from.

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  Him, driving down the street super excited about me being with him. He says: Kiss me, bring those lips over here now!

  Both of us eyes closed, he's still driving! Sigh! I miss that man!
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  (For our non-JW guests) How to get rid of a JW using only two words.

  by cedars in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if creepy contact lenses, facial piercings and people who talk insanely fast (and over-use the word "legit") are not your thing, then don't watch this video!.

  however, if those things don't bother you, and you're curious about the "nuclear" way to eject jehovah's witnesses from one's doorstep, this video explains how this can be done swiftly and effectively.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrvc1yoydby.

  i can actually remember at least a couple of instances where someone revealed they were gay on the doorstep to my partner and i and this didn't get rid of us immediately, but it did force us onto the back foot.

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  Hilarious!

  Great conversation stopper! LOLOLOL!