Posts by SophieG

Oh no! You can't make sure of any of the teachings inside...you no longer need to think for yourself because those 8 guys wil do it for you...no independent study...no questions...god forbid you got a doubt...stamp that out!!! Wow!

Its amazing how clear things are when you stop drinking the "Kool-aide"!

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My fade has hit the fan!

by SophieG in

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hi guys!

well the caca hit the fan!

a friend asked me why i am leaving the org and i told her.

SophieG

Blues brother!!! I AGREE!!! There is nothing that says that!!! Ugh!

Thanks Glander!!! Will do!

Fernando: thanks! Now you KNOW! They are going to say that this does not apply to THEM!

Im still floored that you can't just walk away! Amazing!!!!

I read this today: "I said, "Wouldn't it be redundant to disfellowship me? After all, I left ten years ago of my own accord." He said, "But you can't leave. You can never leave us. We can expel you. But you, having been baptized into The Truth, are one of us until we say you're not.""

Its a quote from the sister who left Bethel in Knorr's day...she has since passed awesome writer...been reading a lot ...name escapes me! CEDARS! HELP!!!)

I read that and thought: ARGH!!! Jonestown! Do they even realize how crazy they are? If you walk away from the beliefs you are cut off? How about we just shake hands....say it did not work out...walk away! OH WAIT! That's just too normal!!!

:(

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Any born-ins have this attitude about converts?

by Nambo in

so there was this great gang of us, from south london, manchester and wolverhampton, went to socialise with a group in fishguard in wales.. amongst the conversations one of the single sisters stated, "i could never marry anybody who used to be in the world".. i guess a lifetime of knocking on doors had given her the impression there couldnt possibly be a convert in her midst, never mind later alone with her in her mgb.. so whats with this, did you think we had rat scabies or were possesed by demons or something?.

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SophieG

I agree that "hotness" trumps any stigma of being either too inexperienced or visa versa. Pretty people have no trouble getting the opposite sex to date them.

This may be true outside the org, but inside the org, even beautiful women are passed over if the born or raised ins think the women are "damaged goods." The brothers would make it well known they wanted "tall, big boobed, small waisted, virginal, elders' daughters who were also pioneers." These fellows would turn their noses up at the most gorgeous sisters who had been in the world, divorced or were single mothers.

We've had threads here about beautiful sisters who married plain or ugly, boring brothers. This is partly why.

LOL! One of the reasons why I left the org as a teen was because I wanted to go into the entertainment/modeling/fashion industry! I would tell you guys who I was compared to in the modeling industry but that may blow my cover!

I came back in and looks and brains never mattered to the super spiritual guy... I was "damaged goods". Whatever...they all did me a favor! :P

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My fade has hit the fan!

by SophieG in

jw
friends

hi guys!

well the caca hit the fan!

a friend asked me why i am leaving the org and i told her.

SophieG

Alternate thread title:

"How to go from Fade to FLASH BULB! in one conversation.

Do what's best for you, but remember there's really no taking words back once they're sai

Best regar

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Lol! Touché!

Hey!

I think it would have happened anyway! It was difficult in some way trying fade! I felt fake!

Now I will just walk around living my life with a smile. I hung out with some folks who have left last night! Got a lot of encouragement. I am not alone!

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What Did You Do As A Witness That Could Have Gotten You Into Trouble Had The Elders Ever Known About It?

by minimus in

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my elder buddy and i would frequent strip clubs when we wanted to.. a few friends knew i enjoyed clubbing and music concerts and i seldom ever spoke of my private social life to others.. i know many jws, including elders, that drank excessively but that wasn't considered too big a deal..

SophieG

Cried on a worldly ex boyfriend's shoulder and spent the night with him! Nothing happened! He woke me up the next morning, dragged me out of his bed and put me in the car and sent me home... Checked on me for days after. I was married and in the first years of my fade!

It's been a rough week....I've been dreaming about that shoulder.... ;(

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My fade has hit the fan!

by SophieG in

jw
friends

hi guys!

well the caca hit the fan!

a friend asked me why i am leaving the org and i told her.

SophieG

Guys! Thanks again for all the love, support and advice you've given me... I wholeheartedly appreciate it!

witness my fury: I read Deborah Layton's book two weeks ago and that quote stuck with me! It is on point!

Jim_tx: I am a bit of a diva, I do everything in 6 inch heels! LOL!

Dreamgolfer: I am keeping that stance... That it's no Jehovah that I has an issue with... It's the control that I'm allergic to.

Sulia: thank you!

Guys I have been pretty quiet all these years... I've been fading for a while... Just finally got busted! I am not the first to fade in my family, however I am the oldest of all the kids and somewhat of a trailblazer. I believe that if I just stay calm as you all suggested, stick to my initial reasons why I'm taking this course, the reaction will temper. I think the biggest issue is why...why...why...!

I feel like deep down they are mentally struggling with what on earth would cause me to could do this! Even though I state why, it's causing them to think deeper. Once the melee calms down, I think they will be okay.

But for me it's the reaction that is most telling! The fact that they have not started asking themselves WHY are they reacting like this. As an outsider...I know why. It's the cultish control that is behind this.

Know that your girl is really strong. I decided walking down this road a long time ago and I knew there would be potholes. Eventually it would have come to a head. It's a new day... And I feel a sense of relief... Now all I have to do is stay quiet and calm.... Everyone is in a timeout...no one is going to talk for a while... They are processing....

I have a funny feeling my younger relatives are going to start paying more attention. I am not the first to go...

Love ya guys!!! I will keep you posted!

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My fade has hit the fan!

by SophieG in

jw
friends

hi guys!

well the caca hit the fan!

a friend asked me why i am leaving the org and i told her.

SophieG

Sab... Thank you! In defense of my friend, I know she is deeply hurt! I am the sister she looked up to! If I am LEAVING it's a big deal! It's throwing her thought process into overdrive....something is making me leave and it's too much for her to handle. It's going to get worse because everyone knows me. I will keep saying: "Just leave me alone.Trust me, I am fine!"

What people are failing to realize is that people change their minds all the time! The question is: why are YOU FREAKING OUT! I'm not!

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My fade has hit the fan!

by SophieG in

jw
friends

hi guys!

well the caca hit the fan!

a friend asked me why i am leaving the org and i told her.

SophieG

Thank you guys sooo much! This is absolutely the most insane thing I have ever experienced! Their freak out is making me freak out! There is no rational, normal thought process coming thru!

I feel like I am escaping Jonestown and the followers are chasing me! They are crazy! Imagine me running away from these people in 6 inch heels...and i am trying to take a shoe off so i can stab them in the eye! LOL! I'm trying to laugh because it's so CLEAR to me that something is wrong with them! If a person wants to leave... Let them go!

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My fade has hit the fan!

by SophieG in

jw
friends

hi guys!

well the caca hit the fan!

a friend asked me why i am leaving the org and i told her.

SophieG

Hi guys! Well the caca hit the fan! A friend asked me WHY I am leaving the org and I told her. Nothing doctrinal, because I think everyone has to find their own pressure point that makes them want out! I stressed to her that it was the control, emotional, behavioral, mental and thought control that was my indication that I did not belong. I told her how it stressed me out and how unhappy I was. I told her that when I took a break that I started feeling better that further away I got from the control how much better I felt. I felt so good and happy that I could not see coming back! I think it freaked her out! I think cognitive dissonance kicked in, because she could not comprehend why I would leave! Of course she does not know that I SEE the org in a whole different light because I read too much and know deep in my soul this is not right! She is devastated! She calls my brother and outs me and now my whole family is in freak out mode! I say to them: I'm just making different choices. I respect your beliefs...please respect mine and realize that my different choices does not change the familial ties and love I have for them. They are telling me, that my choices put them in a situation where they may not be able to talk to me! Jehovah this... Jehovah that! I calmly sit back and say: you do realize that there's nothing scriptural that says you should ostracize me for changing what I believe? So WHO HAS TOLD YOU THIS AND WHY! Who is causing this strife? Jehovah or....? I am done! I can never go back! If this is a loving organization well they have just clearly shown me that it all conditional! that Jehovah wants me to come back even though I think differently because that's the only way my family and friends can love and be with me! I now see something is wrong! Just the battle of word and tears have worn me out! The control for me to stay in at all costs and the control that prevents them to accept that we all have free will to chose how we live our lives. It's just too much! My heart is heavy... I don't understand why this is so hard!