earlier this year are governor signed a bill exempting.
mentally retarded from the death penealty.
problem.
Go take your Xanax, Crossroads, you need a nap. You're rambling and not even making good sense. What the hell do children drowning in swimming pools from being neglected have to do with a mass murderer who deliberate bombed a public building and killed 168 people, also injuring/maiming over 1,000? Answer: Absolutely nothing. Apples and Oranges. Go get some education and maturity, then come back and talk.
RCat
for those of you who haven`t been following it,the wts is in a downward spiral here in japan.fs hours are down,memorial attendance.
is down,pioneers are down,studies are down,donations are down,number.
of congregations is down and the number of publishers continues to.
That's strange, Mulan. The voluntary donation change didn't come about in the USA until the early 90's. How did you know about it in 1989? I'm curious!
RCat
rick the administrator of h20 posted a sad commentary yesterday, and i followed-up with a link to it here.
he and others have wondered why his board is a non-entity these days, yet he cannot see the trees for the forest.
well, that post of his has disappeared.
Prisca,
You made some good points. I think Farkel should listen, for his own blood-pressure's sake. However, sometimes people don't have to use your name in a post for you to know they are REFERRING to you or your actions. And those same people can sometimes try to TWIST your actions into meaning or being something other than what you actually did. I think that is what Farkel is upset about, and rightly so.
However, I don't think he should give Rick that much power to upset him. I had to learn that on another board with a couple of nitwits who were always causing problems. I just had to sit on my hands not to reply to them and give them any satisfaction. Farkel, I know it's hard, but try doing the same. You'll be surprised at how much it upsets the other party when you're suddenly mute and they end up shadow boxing!
RCat
rick the administrator of h20 posted a sad commentary yesterday, and i followed-up with a link to it here.
he and others have wondered why his board is a non-entity these days, yet he cannot see the trees for the forest.
well, that post of his has disappeared.
Mod5, I must respectfully disagree. I once was new to H20. It was the first place I saw on the net regarding Jehovah's Witnesses. I was a faithful JW at the time, and what I read got my curiosity up, I must admit. I didn't like the fighting atmosphere, but Farkel DEFINITELY got my attention with the things he had to say. He certainly didn't "run me off".
And I don't believe that MY post would have turned people away, either. I was giving a truthful comment about what I felt regarding Rick's begging post. Putting the blame on everyone else is going to get him nowhere. I didn't post to the old H20 very often, because quite frankly, I didn't like the war zone atmosphere that existed there most of the time, but, that obviously was the cup of tea alot of people preferred as there were alot of posters there. That is their right, and I didn't begrudge them that. There's room for all of us on the net. [8>]
Now, they have found Simon's forum to be more to their liking, quite frankly, because Simon is a good-hearted bloke with a level head, and he knows how to deal with people in a kind, fair manner. Rick obviously has some hefty work to do in that area, so he's lost posters, doh!
What I would do if I were in his shoes, is stop whinging over spilled milk (lost members) and try to improve his attitude. Perhaps, maybe, (long shot, but he can always hope) he might win some NEW posters there who haven't had to deal with his erratic behavior before. Time will tell. But I wouldn't take it to the bank at this point in time.
RCat
rick the administrator of h20 posted a sad commentary yesterday, and i followed-up with a link to it here.
he and others have wondered why his board is a non-entity these days, yet he cannot see the trees for the forest.
well, that post of his has disappeared.
Yes, I was informed privately by Mod5 over there (whoever that may be) that my post wasn't deleted for content, that the lead post was moved so mine was moved along with it. I've got a note in asking where it was moved TO. We'll see what happens.
RCat, shaking head...
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farkel
Francoise, have you ever read Crisis of Conscience? Ray Franz gives a credible account of how the decisions are made. IMHO, they're given Divine inspiration by the BANK. You see, if it affects their coffers, they have divine inspiration to make changes.
RCat
i am a policitcal conservative, at least a fiscal conservative and sociel moderate.
i support the death penalty, but i agree that our judicial system needs to overhaul how wwe treat criminals to achieve better rehabilitation results.
and of course, withhold the death penalty in cases where there could be doubt.. in mcveigh's case, i believe that he deserves the death penalty.
But there's that ugly fact again....the fact that babies are clean slates and become what WE turn them into. Deal with it.
Julie, with all due respect, I disagree here with this statement. Human beings are a product of BOTH genetic make-up AND environment. I can look at my own children and see that. I don't even need higher studies to tell me that, although those studies have been conducted. Babies are definitely NOT clean slates. And the social problems surrounding child rearing are highly complex and not easily solvable.
Basically, I agree with what Amazing had to say on this subject, except I'm close enough to the Tim McVeigh case to be angry enough to want to make an exception and see him tortured before he "died peacefully".
I don't believe Amazing deserved to be told you would "talk slowly to him". That was disrespectful. I find Amazing to be an intelligent poster who doesn't deserve that treatment.
In most cases, I agree that there should be 100% proof positive that someone did it before the death penalty is used. Whether that means using DNA or a confession doesn't matter. The 100% proof rule should be adhered to.
RCat
repost.. about 1997 i was told (on the quiet) by an ex-district overseer with bethel contacts, that there had just been a meeting of district overseers at london bethel.
the theme of the meeting was post armageddon communications, no less.
if communications were knocked out, they would have to be quickly re-established or else the wts would lose control of the surviving skeleton population.
Kent, calm down and have a drink man.. that anger will eat ya up!
RCat
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farkel
Good points, Farkel. I don't remember what it was you said at the moment, to give me the impression you didn't believe in God himself, as opposed to the Jah of the WTBTS, but no matter, I stand corrected.
I tend to be one to believe there's a higher mental power/energy source out there somewhere, but if he has any interest in us personally, I can't see it. lol
You have some very good points about the H20 forum. The post I was referring to that I wanted you to read, was the one at H20 though, where I had my say to Rick. I have to say, that I still feel there should be a forum where we don't scare 'em off, but feed 'em babyfood for awhile, but not the moderated to hell and back forums like Witnesses online or Greatcrowd. You're right about those, they're for the ones who wish to remain clueless, too afraid to examine their own beliefs. Thanks for the comments.
RCat
since i have left the non-truth it seems like sometimes loneliness sets in regardless of what you do do prevent it.. i suppose the main reason it happens for me is that my family still is very involved in the non-truth and i tend to not to have nothing to do with any jws at all, even though my wife has bookstudy and field service at our home.. well i guess that goes with the territory when you make a firm conviction to take a stand against something you know not to be true.. here are some quotes on this subject for anyone who likes quotes.. .
shakespeare, leonardo da vinci, benjamin franklin, and lincoln never saw a movie, heard a radio, or looked at a tv they had loneliness and knew what to do with it.
they were not afraid of being lonely because they knew that was when the creative mood in them would mark.. .
OutnFree, I was in your shoes at one time. Only member in the family in the "untruth". And just my kids. Glad they came out with me! It was a lonely existance, never getting invited to any get-togethers, after they stopped the congregations from having ones for everybody.
Glad to be free!
RCat
