......knowing you can give them back!.
and leave them in the capable hands of loving parents, leave the big smoke behind to arrive in your peaceful highlands home.
ah bliss!.
Grandchildren ARE truly a joy! I can hardly wait to see mine again in two weeks. I haven't seen my granddaughter since she was 17 mos old. She's now 3 years plus 2 mos old. I've never seen my grandson at all 'cept in photos, and he's now almost 10 mos old. So I'm really looking forward to spoiling them rotten in a few weeks!
One of my other daughters is having a baby near the end of Sept, and it's a girl, so I'm truly blessed in the Grandchildren dept!
RCat
in reading posts here for the past couple days, i obviously am only slightly familiar with bill bowen and his crusade.. is bb still regularly attending meetings, and being treated like a proverbial "leper"?.
if so, i say that about 100 of us drive to his congregation for a sunday meeting, attend respectfully, but talk to and treat bb inside the kh like the "hero" that he deserves!
I'll be in the USA after Aug 15. You tell me when and where and I'll do my level darndest to be there, as long as it's not on the day my daughter's baby is due to be born! Just email me with the details.
RCat
you will have to understand that i have to change a few details here and there so that i can't be identified.. as many of you are aware i serve as an elder, and from time to time i have been asked by the service desk to handle matters for them by means of "the special committee arrangement".
(a phrase you will not find in any wt letter or elders textbook.
) just to explain.. "a special committee is often set up when, an original committee (ojc)decides to disfellowship an individual, who then appeals against the judgement.
I'm sure you've heard the old saw, "They need to be taught a lesson, and this is the only thing that will wake them up." Hogwash! Cutting someone off from their family and support structure really teaches them a lesson all right. In almost every case of DF'g in my 22 yrs in the JW's, it did more harm than good. The DF'd individual never recovered from the humiliation it caused. And let me tell you, it is the most humiliating thing to have to come into the KH and sit in the back and ignore people you thought were your closest friends, ["Closer even than a brother."] And have them ignore you like you were an invisible ghost. To get reinstated, you have to grovel and whine like a baby to even to get a hearing.
That is the BEST description of the disfellowshipping experience I have read. Thanks for the great post.
RCat
in reading posts here for the past couple days, i obviously am only slightly familiar with bill bowen and his crusade.. is bb still regularly attending meetings, and being treated like a proverbial "leper"?.
if so, i say that about 100 of us drive to his congregation for a sunday meeting, attend respectfully, but talk to and treat bb inside the kh like the "hero" that he deserves!
Now THAT is one grand idea! If I were in the US right now, I'd quickly take you up on it.
RCat
a major news organization is in final process of preparing a tv program addressing the issues raised by silentlambs.
its producers and investigator reporters wish to be fair and unbiased, and are seeking broad input and insight.. another such organization has been attracted to the child abuse issue but does not wish to duplicate what's covered.
they are in the initial stages of examining the blood issue and that of enforced shunning and its consequences, in the light of human rights issues globally.
Bless you both, William Bowen and Maximus, for your tireless work on this project. I hope it succeeds!
RCat
the issue of the responsibility of elders in jehovah's witness congregations is under discussion on several threads currently.. what i really believe should be on trial here is the whole idea of a group of men being set up to make such extremely serious decisions regarding the lives of others.. by discouraging the use of professionals to assist in psychological matters, family matters, and most seriously matters of abuse, the watchtower society brings much responsibility for its actions and their affects onto itself.. tattoogirl addresses this on another thread.
can men judge men?
can janitors and laborers and accountants help an abused woman or child by reading them a few scriptures?.
Good post, Joel, and so very true. Thanks.
RCat
i feel like i've been away from this place for eons now and it's probably true, none the less, i feel on top of the world.. my wife gave birth to a set of the most beautiful boys one could ever dream of last monday and i am absolutely elated, whooooooaaaah.. i can tell you all is well is well with mother (a godess) and children (sons of god almighty himself, me .
what can i say say other than telling the whole world about it including you guys.
thp happy as larry.
Congratulations! Now the real fun begins! Back to back nightime feedings, etc. If your Mrs is nursing, I can recommend a great "wrap around the waist" nursing pillow that helps tremendously. A good friend of mine nursed twins, and I got her this pillow. She would take two bedpillows, prop the babies and lay them across this nursing pillow and feed them. It worked great. In any case, the best to you all!
RCat
happy monday!.
had no price tag.
much to her embarrassment the cashier got on the intercom and boomed out for the entire store to hear: "price check on lane thirteen, tampax, supersize.
Caole, lol, that's not self-confidence, that's FEMALE!
RCat
one of the craziest things i ever witnessed as a jw was a funeral for an unbaptized publisher...she attended my cong.
and was very quiet and softspoken...the type who never caused any trouble and who would ocassionaly comment, directly from the paragraph....nice lady with a young daughter about 11. well one day she's driving down the road and gets hit by a pepsi truck....(can anyone say lawsuit???
) she's hospitalized and is in critical condition....to make a long story short...she's faced with the blood issue and finally gives in and accepts a transfusion and dies anyway...ok let's fastforward...no one apparently knew about this except her mother....a non-jw who had studied off and on for years and years.....so the obituary appears and it's public knowledge that her funeral will be at such and such kingdom hall at such and such time....actually published info...well, she had tons of non-jw family...typical of us black folk...anyway let me get to the point....apparently the day of the funeral, just some hours before in fact....the elders find out about the blood and don't want to have the funeral in the kingdom hall....but what are they to do????
Graphical, very graphical..
It is a real shame what they did to that woman, but I would have to say, they did the non-believing relatives a real favor! No way would they ever want to be a JW after a rotten display like that, and that's a good thing!
RCat
latest propaganda from the borg (wt.sept 1, 2001, pg.15).
"suppose, though, that we personally have been the.
victim of a perceived injustice.
Good point!
RCat
