one of my customers asked me today whether i celebrate christmas and birthdays almost automaticly i was about to say no.. then i realised i'm not a witness anymore.. i didn't really want to go into a conversaion so i just said those things didn't bother me.. so what things are here stuck in our minds like that ,that are hard to get rid of?.
do you sill have a feeling arrmagddon might come , even though you don't mentally bleive it ,does it still effect you?.
have you realised yet that you are not going to live forever and in fact you will die?.
A few nights ago I had a nightmare, and when I woke up I was pretty scared. I remembered that I had bought some Tarot cards for a friend for christmas...and the first thing that came into my head...I let demons into the house I need to throw those cards away. I told my never was a jw boyfriend he laughed out loud at me. Now I just feel kind of stupid. It is hard to get rid of those trained mental responses.
Nicole
something has puzzeled me for a long time since i came to this board.
first i would like to say i'm not judging any in what i'm about to say as we all are at different places in our lives and i respect that.. here it is: at what point in your life did you no longer believe in god or believe the bible?.
how many came to this conclution after coming to this db?.
Gumby
When I look back on my JW life I never really believed that god was out to help or hurt me. When I left I realized that for me atheism felt right. That does not mean I am not in tune with my spirituality. Or that that I have thrown anything out on the contrary I have gained much more than I have thrown out. This board has had nothing to do with my core belief system.
Nicole
my wife told me an amuzing and yet sad story about my step son, sean.
when he was three, in preschool, and already reading due to hyperlexia (part of his autism) he got into a spat with his preschool teacher.
it seems sean was acting out in class so the teacher sent him to stand in the corner for a bit.
Yerusalyim-
My aunt always reminds me about the time that I told her when I was five that she needed to become a witness so Jehovah would not destroy her in Armageddon. She told me after I left the organization how much that hurt her feelings. Hearing her tell me this helps me understand why I still get panicky about Armageddon. I apologized 20 years later to her...and said well I guess it will be both of us together then.
Nicole
11-19 3:30 pm 7 lbs 13 oz, 21 in.. i don't how how to add the photos, but if you want to see pictures, go to http://www.webphotos.com/list_albums.asp?mi=1&smi=1.
i think this is right (mommy help me!
lisa
BEST WISHES for the new baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am so happy everything went well!!!
Love ya,
Nicole
P.S. I couldn't get to the photos either...I wanted to see them so bad too.
i dont post very often to this board.
today i guess i am just frustrated and need some support.
while growing up as a witness there was a family around the corner that my mother and i were very close to.
Thanks everyone! Really all I can do is wait, and if she is ready she will make a move. Thanks for your comments.
Nicole
i dont post very often to this board.
today i guess i am just frustrated and need some support.
while growing up as a witness there was a family around the corner that my mother and i were very close to.
I don’t post very often to this board. Today I guess I am just frustrated and need some support. While growing up as a witness there was a family around the corner that my mother and I were very close to. They had 2 daughters, and I used to baby-sit for them frequently. My mother told me that both girls had been disfellowshipped they were very young at the time 15 & 17. The younger one came back right away but the older girl left home and moved in with a loser cousin. This was about 3 years ago, after a lot of fretting and research I finally was able to get into contact with the older girl.
At that time I told her she always had a place to stay here in Atlanta, and as long as she went to college (she has so much potential) she could live with me. Then I heard word that she was going to meetings again. And she was re-instated…ARGH. My mother told me again that she was disfellowshipped a second time. So again after a couple months of looking for her I found her email address.
I think I must have been a little too much to handle, my apostate anti-JW self. After a few emails again I extended her the offer to come and stay with me, and go to school. I haven’t heard from her since. It has been about 2 weeks now. So I have been sending web information to her, (she has not responded to any emails) because I fear that she still thinks it is the truth like I did at one point. I am at a complete loss as to what to do now. She has so much potential, and I feel so helpless.
doesn't it feel good to not be a jw at this point in history?
through the fear of the last few days, i do have comfort from scripture about my eternal salvation through jesus (as a witness you never felt secure with god--don't miss a meeting or field service for long or you're out), but also because my husband and i can display our american flag on our cars and in front of our house to support our country!.
as americans, we will not stand for terrorism and i'm proud to be in this country.
I am so happy I am not a witness at this point in history. To be able to express myself anyway I want or the way I feel, without the fear that I have been "patriotic" in my comments. I wear a flag T-shirt (which I bought when I left the org.) and participate in the moments of silence. The flag represents what we are. It represents our pride. The physical representation of what we were denied to feel for so many years. I am patriotic, I love this country, and I will fight for my freedom. The JW rhetoric is true a flag will not bring people back from the dead or right the wrongs, but our flag, my flag stirs in me the pride to make a difference. It is this feeling of pride in country that WILL change world events. I will be there to wave my flag, and see the world events change for the better.
Nicole
growing up in the truth i have witnessed this situation time and time again a family particularly the daughter in the family becomes attached to a bethelite from middle american you know those corn fed farmboy line backer types they attach themselves to a certain family sharing meals at the home of the family,going on outings with the family.but the bethelite takes it in my opinion a step to far when he shows the starry eyed daughter affection by buying her flowers when she makes all her pioneer hours,taking her out to dinner when she gets a g on the ministry school,having lunch every weekend after field service takes her to his hometown to visit his family and friends of course the sister feels extra special but then the bethelite hits her with a ton of bricks when he asks if his fiance can stay at her home when she comes to visit from kansas this happened to a sister in my congregation she was so devastated she went out with a guy that had been asking her out from the job,got pregnant ,disfellow, and has not been back since.
people can usually tell if someone has feelings for you.
so wouldnt you be cautious of your actions so you wouldnt hurt anyones feelings or making them think there is more there than friendship?
The exact opposite happened to my friend. We lived in Corn fed white boy central. Utah. Although we were in the Spanish circuit. My friend had been dating this brother for a few months and then he went to bethel. They continued to date, having a long distance courtship. She would send him money, and gave him her phone card. When she went to visit him he introduced her to all of his friends and congregation as "the future mother of his children". After about a year he calls her on the phone and tells her he has fallen in love with an exotic south american girl...she was just Mexican nothing exotic about that. He called her from the new girlfriends house who lived in Spanish Harlem using my friends calling card to break up with her. It took her a long time to get over this. My friend married someone much better though...even though they are still witnesses.
Nicole
this is a bit lengthy, but is a very big issue with me, and that is the issue of women's rights.
i do agree with women allowing their husbands to make a final decision, being on how women think with their hearts and men think with their heads, making choices often times more logical ones.
but, the husband according to god is supposed to love his wife as his own flesh.
In all the relationships I have ever been in with a man I have always been the "logical" one and the men are always the "emotional" ones. And I have always made more money. I completely disagree with you that in most homes men control all of the finances and such things. When one person in a relationship dominates finances, raising of children or whatever it sets the other mate up for a fall.
Getting off of Moe's neurosis and on to mine. I have had a problem in the past of expecting my partner to be the head/man of the house. I have worked really hard to wipe out the white knight syndrome from my brain, but it has been hard. Maybe this is what you are experiencing. Part of my JW conditioned brain said "men take care of women" "men are head of the house" and my feminist side of the brain said "I have to take care of myself" "I am the head of my own house". And to be honest I still struggle with this like Moe does.
Nicole
i thought it would be interesting for people to just post a few things about themselves so we can get to know each other just a bit.. try posting 10 facts about your life.. joel.
1. i was born and raised in south georgia.. 2. my favorite subject in school was math.. 3. i was in the fulltime service (bethel and pioneer) for 4 years.. 4. my favorite color is blue.. 5. mitch and i have been together over 12 years.. 6. we live in a suburb of atlanta georgia.. 7. we love to eat out and have friends over for dinner and board games.. 8. the only sport i was ever any good at is tennis.. 9. my favorite tv show of all time is the simpsons.. 10. we are both naturists and wish we could lay on the beach naked every day.
1 - I am an only child
2 - I will be 30 in 8 days
3 - I collect toy cockroaches
4 - I live in a loft in downtown Atlanta
5 - Every time I have a party or someone has a party in my building someone jumps on the train that runs behind the warehouse I live in.
6 - I am trying to write my first novel
7 - My favorite authors are Chuck Palahnuik, Herbert Shelby, Bronte sisters, and Jane Austin
8 - My pussy's name is Chutney he is an American shorthair brown tabby
9 - I am in a committed relationship with a guy named Karl
10 - I am obsessed with sex
