I can't wait for the "new scrolls" to be opened....
I remember jw's referring to this "prophesy" when they were cornered and couldn't answer simple questions... "well we'll know when the new scrolls are opened"
God works in mysterious ways huh?
the live forever book, on pg 47, contains the following line of reasoning:.
has jehovah god given us information about himself?
has he told us what he has done and what he yet purposes to do?
I can't wait for the "new scrolls" to be opened....
I remember jw's referring to this "prophesy" when they were cornered and couldn't answer simple questions... "well we'll know when the new scrolls are opened"
God works in mysterious ways huh?
susan blakely is one of my favorite actresses.
i did this drawing some years ago.
have you ever heard about her?.
I remember her in Towering Inferno.....bet they won't be showing
that on TV for a while knowwharramean
Didn't she jump out of building with Robert Wagner ?
so you dont have to say it.
could you please bear with me for a second here.. this organisation cant be all bad even though overall it is.. .
most of you may reluctantly hold the opinion that every thing the watchtower currently teaches isnt all bad so could you please give your honest opinions as to what you think is good about the org.. so what is there that can be said about it and its teachings that is good.. especially about prophecy.
I'm flippin' sick of this peanut brain
for me it was when i was living in mexico and i got a job as a waiter out of sheer boardom.
the pay was lousy, the work was hard, the boss was an asshole, and at the end of the week i was told that i was not good enough to be a waiter and i was fired.
thank god!.
I've had loads :
1)Stacking shelves in Asda
2)Cleaning at Marks and Spenser started 5-30 am -8am
Then I went to Asda for 1-2 hours then I pioneered
all day and I thought I was soooo coooll
Wat a waste of time
3)Window Cleaning in all weathers although it can be
quite good money
4)Delivering pizzas on a moped for Dominoes lasted 1wk
5)Cleaning floors at the corner shop
6)Stripping paint off assembly chairs
i'm sure i didn't dream this but as a jw child i seem to recall.
this explanation for the flood:.
before the flood it didn't rain;there was a huge canopy of water.
Ha ha Dakota well said ! LOL
Thanks for info-very interesting
Dare I mention The Nephilim ?
Jerome:
What did I tell you guy?........"DONT GET INVOLVED"
Or should I say Unshackle yourself , sack it .. Move on!
Larc: well said ...........
i'm sure i didn't dream this but as a jw child i seem to recall.
this explanation for the flood:.
before the flood it didn't rain;there was a huge canopy of water.
Speaking about the flood again,I assume that in Noah's day
only a small part of the Earth was actually populated.
So why was the ENTIRE Earth flooded ?-not just the area that
was populated? If the cellar was full of rats you wouldn't
destroy the entire house would you ?
we have a thread that asks why we became jw's, so i became curious as to why some of us have left.
what was the last straw for you?.
mine was the treatment of my wife.
Without a doubt for me it was the turnaround on education
Also the generation stuff,never been so confused in my life!
When you think about it the whole thing's a load of baloney
my mother and grandmother are dubs, so it was a part of my life from the start.
both my dad and grandfather weren't, so it was what they call a divided household.. that sucked coz, after the meeting we were hurried off home to please the unbelieving mate.. so i never got to have real friends at the meetings and never had any activities outside of school.. as i got older i began to fit in with the school mates but felt restrained as we always had meetings to go to.. to cut a long story short, i got baptised when i was 18, had trouble keeping on top of meetings and witnessing etc.... i went weak, then inactive, found myself a girlfriend, non-witness, talked her thru the issues and problems i was going thru and so she decided to study.. we got married, she was baptised and things were going good.. as they were always pushing at assemblies to pioneer we felt we had to do that.. so as our circumstances allowed, she began pioneering.. you know, i look back and can say there was so much pressure put on couples who didn't have a family to seek first the kingdom.. as i had a checkered past according to some in the congo, it was a battle to attain privilidges.
but i worked at it, i would auxillary pioneer each year and use my vacation time to do it, brown nose the co each time he visited, and bend over backwards to do anything the elders wanted done.. and as time passed i became a ministerial servant.. then in order for me to become an elder i had to really work my ass off.. so i did, i sorted things out so i could also become a regular pioneer.. after 18 months of doing that plus continually working hard for the org i was appointed elder.. my family was stoked.. i had a sister whose husband had also been appointed elder, my other sister was a regular pioneer and my brother was living with me and doing as much as he could.
Hi Kep
Really enjoyed reading your story,a lot of it was familiar to
me as I was baptised at 16 pioneered till 23; I was working my way up the Borg ladder when My 1st mariage collapsed . It's only in the past 2 years or so that I blame myself for 75% of the problem because my pioneer wife got fed up and pursued education which I was vehemently against ( like a good witness) .
You've had a rough deal man and I can sympathise with your depression and drinking/suicidal feelings etc because I'm still having problems in those areas too . 4 years ago a very good witness friend of mine killed himself due to a combination of similar stuff. He too felt cheated by WTS about education and had a bad marriage. What a waste , he was a cool dude too.
Like yourself I'm only just deprogramming ... all those years take there toll don't they?
Look forward to more of your posts !
LOL Rummy1
i am trying to find audio clips taken from jw conventions or other meetings about armageddon or anything else like that.
i have already gone throught the ones from the freeminds site do you know of any others?.
the bible is a two edged sword .
Top man ISP !
Why would anybody want to listen to audio clips
about such a basic topic as Armageddon ?
The reason I'm really posting is that loads of members
think this guy's a troll and a flippin plonker to boot