i know the last post i did on this subject was a real fire starter... however that said, i am starting to plan my follow-up visit!
suggestions as to what nerves could be touched this time please!!.
as a refresher i touched on these:.
First of all, I would like to applaud your initiative and encourage you to carry on.
I cannot count the number of boring meetings that I sit through, wishing that something colorful would happen. You will provide enjoyment and amusement that will keep the dubs buzzing for years.
i wish to present three situations that are true to life and open up a discussion on these different scenarios and how would would personally act toward them.. 1) a 75 year old person has been a jw for the past 40 years.
most of their friends are jws.
they look forward to the fellowship at the meetings and though the congregation is far from perfect, they are pleased with the fact that they have a purpose in life.
Flip the situation around. Imagine that you are the crippled man who is happy in your belief (JW, athiest, or otherwise). Would you want someone to "tickle your ears" so that your ideas would be reinforced? Some people may. I would not.
Personally, I would find it insulting if someone condescended to flatter my beliefs rather than engage in a real, human debate. And, if I were handicapped, it would feel more than insulting. It would feel depressing.
Also, most apostates are not evangelists. We do not go from door to door trying to ram our beliefs down other's throats. So, the likelihood of one of these persons coming into contact with me and initiating a discussion is pretty slim.
The truth is out there, and I won't hide it from anyone. However, I'm not going to seek out people to press my views on them. If they are happy in their belief, they can remain so - just as happy Scientologists and Seventh Day Adventists can do.
How much damage has been done by JW's who push their beliefs on others? - familes broken up, children who die from lack of medical treatment, Witnesses who became diseased and even died from lack of a vaccination, men imprisoned for declining alternative service, needless murders of Malawians, futures blemished for lack of education.
The sins of JW's pile as high as heaven. This question should be directed at the Witnesses, not the underground.
rob vanstone .
regina leader post .
peoples planting roots in regina.
With regard to "money and rank", let's not forget that this is Canadian football.
As a defensive end, even a good one, he is probably earning around $75,000 (CDN) per year - maybe as high as $90,000. This is around $47-56 K USD.
rob vanstone .
regina leader post .
peoples planting roots in regina.
I live in Regina, and Shonte is in the other congregation that shares our hall. I have never met him, but my wife has.
A few years ago, he was a top notch CFL (Canadian Football League) player. However, because of drugs, booze, and all around partying, he became unreliable, and no team would touch him. Last season, Saskatchewan picked him up, and he is again an all-star.
I'm not sure exactly when he converted, but it was no more than a couple of years ago.
Every newspaper article that mentions his name seems to find it mandatory to mention that he is a JW.
this one is for jt, who is interested in body modification (lol).
i will be the first to admit a rabid fascination with a certain picture....... back when i was about 7, i stumbled across the most fascinating picture in all of dubdom....... are you holding your breath?!?!?.
it was in the evolution or creation book....the picture of the black, african tribal woman with that huge freakin plate in her lip!.
Best picture: topless Eve from the 1950's WT volume
Worst picture: Awake cover with pictures of children who have died from lack of a blood transfusion. That picture hits me in the pit of my stomach, every time.
http://www.tri-cityherald.com/news/2002/0129/story4.html.
hotels to help pay rent for coliseum.
this story was published 1/29/2002.
Moxy: I read the above quote to mean that 17,400 attend the convention for each of the three weekends.
A quick scan of the tri-city colloseum indicates that the last hockey game drew 10,759, and local sports writers complain that the arena is usually only about 1/3 full (at around 5500). Since assemblies can use the ice surface for seating, the capacity is probably around 18,000.
If their total attendance was only 17400, they could easily shrink it to 1 or 2 weekends.
go on, be honest, how did you enjoy giving talks?.
were you nervous?.
glad when it was over?.
I always find that there is good and bad to giving a talk. I dread writing the talk, and always put it off until the last minute. However, once I get up on stage and begin to relax, I enjoy it. It is kind of a high, if it is going well.
Actually, giving talks is one of the only good things about being a Witness. Whether you liked giving them or not, it helps you develop a skill that most people never hone. The only way to get comfortable speaking in front of a group is to do it. For some people, it takes a lot of practice. This skill has been extremely useful to me in business.
http://www.tri-cityherald.com/news/2002/0129/story4.html.
hotels to help pay rent for coliseum.
this story was published 1/29/2002.
If my numbers are "whack", pick one that you think is wrong and do your own calculation.
Besides, even if my numbers are out by a factor of 10 (which they aren't), the society is still a greedy, money-grubbing organization that cares more for its own profits than its members.
a recent thread that touched on the chronology of the patriachs in the book of genesis triggered off a memory that i just had to uncover.
how did we ever believe such stuff!.
questions from readers the conclusion that the flood occurred 1,656 years after adams creation rests on the ages in the genealogical list in genesis chapter 5. the bible there says how old each man was when he became father to the next.
One of the Society's older books (I believe it was "Is the Bible Really the Word of God") actually went so far as to ridicule old Assyrian documents because they recorded life spans of 10s of thousands of years. This was presented as proof that these old documents were unreliable - in contrast to the Bible.
It is unbelievable that they could be so stupid. The Bible makes exactly the same claims, just with slightly smaller, but still ridiculous dates.
http://www.tri-cityherald.com/news/2002/0129/story4.html.
hotels to help pay rent for coliseum.
this story was published 1/29/2002.
"the district conventions in tri cities span WA Idaho Oregon Canada and Parts of Utah"
Here we go.
A quick look at the map indicates that this ranges anywhere from 100 to 600 miles away from the convention site.
If each of the 19,000 out of town households drove an average of 250 miles each way, and their cars got 30 miles per gallon, that means that JW's burned 316,000 gallons of gas to get to the convention. How much is your gas down there? I will guess $2.00 per gallon.
This means that JW's spend $632,000 on gas to go to the convention. By holding conventions in more cities (probably unsubsidized), the stadium rental would rise by about $15,000, but individual JW's would save 40 times that amount on gas, and up to 600 times that much on hotel bills.
So, the Society's blatant efforts at lining their own pockets come at the expense of members, as always. There should be a law against their greed and abuse of their members.
