You bet. My mother is constantly pumping my kids for information (have we been at meetings, etc), and sowing ideas (when are you getting baptized).
They do this because life itself is at stake. There is no technique too low, as long as it works.
the last time i saw my children the 5 year old brings me a new video tape she wants to watch.
it was from grandma.
there it was, the story of noah brought to you by none other than the wtbts...needless to say it went right into the trash.
You bet. My mother is constantly pumping my kids for information (have we been at meetings, etc), and sowing ideas (when are you getting baptized).
They do this because life itself is at stake. There is no technique too low, as long as it works.
it seems that there is much anger on this place.
in my country we do not understand the manifestation of hostility manifested on a public board.
if some of these people do not calm down, they might be next terrorists in news.
Most terrorists are not simply pissed off individuals, which you will find around here.
Terrorists tend to be thoroughly indoctrinated, loyal members of high control groups who believe they are working for God. JW's are far more likely to be terrorists than we are.
there are several major doctrines that the watchtower strictly.
holds but cannot publically acknowledge or openly teach.. here are a few:.
1) women are not allowed to have equal authority with men.. their status or rank is secondary and inferior.. 2) homosexuality is evil - they won't condemn it openly, especially.
U2K:
Sometimes it is difficult to determine if a statement is in error. For example, is there life after death? We all have our theories, but no one can conclusively prove it either way.
However, some errors can be proven with a simple test. If a person (or organization) says something definitively, then at another time contradicts itself, then at least one of those two statements must be in error. This is simple logic.
Consider some JW contradictions:
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The generation that saw 1914 would still be alive when armageddon comes. That generation must have been at least 15 years old in 1914.
The generation that saw 1914 would still be alive when armageddon comes. That generation must have been at least 10 years old in 1914.
The generation that saw 1914 would still be alive when armageddon comes. That generation must have been at least newborn babies in 1914.
The "generation" does not refer to any time period. It refers to anyone who lives at any point during the time of the end.
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Hemophiliac preparations factor VIII and IV are against God's law and you will be killed by God if you take them.
Hemophiliac preparations factor VIII and IV are OK. You can take them.
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Organ transplants are against God's law. They are cannibalism, and you will be killed by God if you have one.
Organ transplants are OK. You can have one.
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The people of Sodom will/won't/will/won't/will/won't be resurrected.
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JW's are/aren't/are/aren't/are/aren't/are/aren't/are/aren't/are/aren't God's prophets.
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The list could go on forever.
How many of their current doctrines are wrong, and just have not yet been reversed?
They claim that God gives them words to speak. How can God get so many things wrong.
so, who is our new poster, schibolet, and what is his or her agenda?.
let's review some quotes:.
* http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?.
For those of you who are interested, the word "shibboleth" was the secret word that Jephthah used to identify Ephraimites. Apparently, they had an accent and couldn't pronounce the word properly. So, if they failed the test, they were imposters and he killed them.
Our new poster appears to be on a crusade to identify and denounce apostates.
Yet, he can't spell Bible words properly, himself. Since he can't spell "shiboleth", he is obviously an imposter JW. Should we kill him?
"Jephthah then called together the men of Gilead and fought against Ephraim. The Gileadites struck them down because the Ephraimites had said, "You Gileadites are renegades from Ephraim and Manasseh." The Gileadites captured the fords of the Jordan leading to Ephraim, and whenever a survivor of Ephraim said, "Let me cross over," the men of Gilead asked him, "Are you an Ephraimite?" If he replied, "No," they said, "All right, say 'Shibboleth.' " If he said, "Sibboleth," because he could not pronounce the word correctly, they seized him and killed him at the fords of the Jordan. Forty-two thousand Ephraimites were killed at that time." - Judges 12:4-6
so, who is our new poster, schibolet, and what is his or her agenda?.
let's review some quotes:.
* http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?.
You missed this gem: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=27674&site=3&page=2
"Finally, an apostate that realizes and acknowledges the truth. The quote above is the real reason that apostates have for all these pedophilia accusations. Apostates don't care about victims, their real agenda is to stop the preaching work.
"It amazes me what Satan is doing here. He is manipulating apostate minds and actions to stop the preaching work."
He's established his single minded viewpoint pretty quickly for a guy with only 8 posts. Looks like we have another (or possibly the same) troll to ignore.
where did all the fun times go?
i was looking at the june 1, 1985 watchtower, pg.
29-31 with its legalistic baptism vows, where one recognizes their association with gods spirit-directed organization, when i was struck by the context of the article.. essentially it gives a last minute warning about proper decorum with swim-wear used for baptism a serious and solemn occasion.
This is yet another example of the organization being run by followers, rather than leaders or thinkers.
Most organizations realize that humans interact with society through three major institutions - family, work (or school), and church. JW's have systematically shut down the social function of the religion. It is no longer performing one of the basic functions of a religion.
Therefore, it is not surprising that they are having trouble recruiting and retaining members - they're not doing their job.
my five year old son has had four loose teeth for several weeks now.
one of them became very loose today and he couldn't leave it alone.
my husband was planning on pulling it out this evening when rhys suddenly realized it wasn't there anymore!
Scully: Yes, please tell Mike Duffy the story. I would love to hear his response. That ad seemed to run forever. We had many late night visits from him at out house.
By the way, tell him he owes me 60 bucks.
my five year old son has had four loose teeth for several weeks now.
one of them became very loose today and he couldn't leave it alone.
my husband was planning on pulling it out this evening when rhys suddenly realized it wasn't there anymore!
You may not know this, but the tooth fairy's real identity was accidentally revealed a few years ago.
About 7 or 8 years ago, CTV news (in Canada) did a series of commercials. They were advertising their news reporters. After a brief intro, the reporter would appear on the screen, and a clip of one of their comments would be shown.
Well, the reporter from Parliament in Ottawa was a rather plump, sarcastic man. His line was "and I'm the tooth fairy".
So, from that day on, in our house, the tooth fairy was a middle aged, overweight, sarcastic man named Mike Duffy.
i came accross and old xtc song the other day, that struck a chord with me.
i remember it when it was new (1986), but it's a lot more meaningful for me today.. dear god.
but all the people that you made in your image, see.
There is no blame on God, whatsoever. He just doesn't exist. Period.
i came accross and old xtc song the other day, that struck a chord with me.
i remember it when it was new (1986), but it's a lot more meaningful for me today.. dear god.
but all the people that you made in your image, see.
I came accross and old XTC song the other day, that struck a chord with me. I remember it when it was new (1986), but it's a lot more meaningful for me today.
Dear God
Lyrics by: Andy Partridge
Dear God,
hope you got the letter, and...
I pray you can make it better down here.
I don't mean a big reduction in the price of beer
but all the people that you made in your image, see
them starving on their feet 'cause they don't get
enough to eat from God, I can't believe in you
Dear God, sorry to disturb you, but... I feel that I should be heard
loud and clear. We all need a big reduction in amount of tears
and all the people that you made in your image, see them fighting
in the street 'cause they can't make opinions meet about God,
I can't believe in you
Did you make disease, and the diamond blue? Did you make
mankind after we made you? And the devil too!
Dear God, don't know if you noticed, but... your name is on
a lot of quotes in this book, and us crazy humans wrote it, you
should take a look, and all the people that you made in your
image still believing that junk is true. Well I know it ain't, and
so do you, dear God, I can't believe in I don't believe in
I won't believe in heaven and hell. No saints, no sinners, no
devil as well. No pearly gates, no thorny crown. You're always
letting us humans down. The wars you bring, the babes you
drown. Those lost at sea and never found, and it's the same the
whole world 'round. The hurt I see helps to compound that
Father, Son and Holy Ghost is just somebody's unholy hoax,
and if you're up there you'd perceive that my heart's here upon
my sleeve. If there's one thing I don't believe in
it's you... Dear God.