sex treatment programme order for man
november 29, 2002 22:50 .
senior jehovah's witness john pickrell is to undergo a sex offenders treatment programme.. .
izobcenec
Is he still an elder ?
Isn't he one that the congregation as supposed to look up to and respect.
Isn't he a "glorious one"
Why didn't he tell the judge that he was a Glorious one !
We are all imperfect, so it has to be Satan's fault !!
Isn't the congregation just as guilty by sticking up for him, and what about the rest of the elders, if he had not been one of the team, how would he have been treated ???
KT
when a witness talks about a person not being "in the truth", does that get to you?
or if they self-righteously proclaim that "at least, they're in the truth and not worldly", does that push any buttons?
... and the truth will set you free John 8:32
January February or March 2003 might set us free officially, if the rumours we have heard on this board are the truth !
KT
i mean, i run a business (or three) and if i put the effort into promoting my businesses that the wbts does, i would be a billionnare!
house-to-house preaching.
the promise of life forever.
Spanner
If you had six million employees all working for nothing, providing their own transport and fuel, not applying for any expenses, you too, would be a billionaire, but in all of this, they are ONLY the 31st (allegedly) richest corporation in the USA, maybe they want to be NUMBER ONE !
KT
ok everyone...i am new.. i don't know what to say....just hello.. i am a disfellowshipped jehovah's witness...which maybe one day i will get in detail about....but right now it's still too painful.. besides if i talk about it i feel like i am talking bad about people or hindering jehovah's spirit with others.
i realy try to shy away from speaking badly of people...even if they hurt me.. what i believe in my heart is no one can truely hurt you if your standing with the creator is good in his eyes.they in reality hurt only themselves,because they hinder thier relationship with our maker.. i do not like to talk bad about any religious group realy because, i think what if jehovah some how aproved of them and then i am introuble!.
i can't remember where the scripture is but it is about the apostles and the advice was to let them go....and if they were from god then you know....but if they weren't then it would end...thier preaching and basically god would take care of them.. i feel jesus could say the things he did of religious leaders because,well.....he is th son of god and these people claimed to represent his dad.
Welcome Utopian_Raindrops,
Just adding my pennies-worth to my wife's (Twink). I understand how you are feeling, if it's possible to stand sideways and contemplate all that you have gone through, you may be able to come out a better person certainly, and not be biased with the feelings of guilt that has been ingrained in you for whatever period you have been in the Organisation. Having arrived there myself, after thirty years, I viewed it as 2 Peter 2:22
....the dog returning to it's own vomit...
When you find out for yourself, what the organisation have been doing and what they have got involved in, you may feel as I do, that Jehovah is not backing them anyway.
Remember John 14:6 .. Jesus said "I am the way and the truth and the life, nobody comes to the Father except through me", (not via men)
KT
i have received a reply from the society regarding this issue.
sorry, no scanner but quoted below .there was just an introduction and concluding paragraph in addition to this :-.
"after looking into the matter when it was first raised, we found that none of the legal corporations used by the governing body in caring for the kingdom interests own stock in rand cam corporation or any associate company involved in developing the diesel engine in question.
bluesbrother/Zev,
If you have the time, it would be great to see that documented evidence.
many thanks and well done
KT
dear brothers:
as you have admitted, the watch tower bible & tract society did join the united nations as a non government organization in 1992 ending in 2001, and according to the following watch tower this means that by their own actions they disassociated them selves from jehovahs organization which means that we must treat them like disfellowshiped ones.
in other words they are no longer jehovahs witnesses or have any right to that name.
Having read all of the comments backwards and forwards from ones that I would definately NOT call apostates, but people of principles, an old saying comes to mind
Never argue with a fool, he will drag you down to his level, then beat you with experience.
KT
dear brothers:
as you have admitted, the watch tower bible & tract society did join the united nations as a non government organization in 1992 ending in 2001, and according to the following watch tower this means that by their own actions they disassociated them selves from jehovahs organization which means that we must treat them like disfellowshiped ones.
in other words they are no longer jehovahs witnesses or have any right to that name.
Yadirf, you said :-
"It certainly was NOT wrong! And as to their so-called "secret," what is there to dictate that the Governing Body must reveal their every move to the rank and file of the Organization? "
When I came into the organisation thirty years ago, I studied a period in the Organisation's history, where they were carrying stretchers in the first world war, (this might seem a very humane thing to do) but according to the Organisation's thinking, they went into 3 years of spiritual darkness, having been disapproved by Jehovah. At that time they thought that they were fulfilling scripture.
Romans 15:4, and 1 Cor. 10:11 "they were written for a warning to us, upon whom the ends of the system of things have arrived....."
Do we not learn from past mistakes ? Carrying stretchers is nothing in comparison with joining the UN.
KT
rev 18:4 warns us to "get out of her my people.......",
if we are/were his people, we would have got out of babylon the great before entering the ranks of jehovah's witnesses.
the question is - why is he saying my people, who are the " my people" that he is talking to and where are such ones to "get out from" ?
Thanks everyone - All of your comments are appreciated.
Ozzie - I didn't realise until you worded your comments the way you did, just how brain-washed I still am, eventhough having come out of the witnesses ! Obviously more research on Babylon the Great is needed.
I haven't heard of "The bible speaks today" series, is it on the net or is it a book ?
kind regards to you and Mrs Oz.
KT
things are warming up this side of the pacific as we approach the summer season, so it's good to have a little relax and a nice cuppa.
time also to think of our poll for the weekend.
are you ready?
1 looks like rain ?
2 Latest article in Awake mag. on birth control - got it word for word in my mind - 95 years old woman comes to the door !
3 thumb strategically placed under door knocker
4 curtains are closed leave this one
5 milk still on step as above
5a big dog as above
KT
Edited by - kaytee on 24 November 2002 7:3:52
a person years ago made a comment to me, about witnesses.
they said that in their opinion, being a witness brought out the extreme in a person.. for example, if they were untrusting, they would trust less.. if they were vindictive by nature, they would become more hateful and vindictive.. if they were kind and loving, they would even be more so.. basically, whatever type of person they were, being a witness would intensify that persona.. have you found that to be true?
maybe you knew someone before they came a witness.
It might make some people a "better person " but not necessarily a better christian. I found many of them to be extremely hard in their dealings with others. Common sense seemed to be non-existent. I did not find it easy to turn the other cheek when confronted with absurd unscriptural comments.
