When you try and fit the thousand year reign of Jesus Christ from 1914, (this according to jws), not forgetting the whole of the creative days, when you try and arrive at a simultaneous time at the end, it gets a bit confusing.
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New QFR on May 1 WT reaffirms 1914 and talks about Satan's ouster from Heaven
by stillajwexelder inno matter how stupid, they can not drop 1914 - far too embarassing.
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I want to leave but don't know how
by God_Delusion inhi.. i have been a witness since birth (will be 30 years in june 2009).
got baptised when i was 15 (pressured into it by my parents, plus, i was promised my first home pc if i did get baptised before turning 16).. both my parents serve in the uk bethel.
i have an older brother and younger sister, both of which are witnesses.. i am married to a witness and live in cyprus (i am english).
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delusion,
The one sure way my wife and I found, was to ask about the U,N, involvement, Paederphiles,607 bce accuracy, failed prophecies U.turn on blood.
Whilst asking and seeing them squirm you are putting any action that might take place away from yourself, and directly on to the shoulders and conscience of the elders.
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What is the most damning scripture in the Bible?
by viva infor many years, i had serious issues with alot of scriptures.
the creation account, the flood, jonah in the whale, etc.
scriptures that are scientifically falsifiable.
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To me the most puzzling accepting the bible to be true in every word ! was, Math.12 v 31 on this account I say to you, Every sort of sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the holy spirit will not be forgiven.
In 30 years I could never understand how you can sin against the "Holy Spirit".
Yet your life depends upon you knowing, you must not do this.
KT
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How do you feel when you catch the WTS in twisting of scriptures,deception,and lies?
by RULES & REGULATIONS injesus said in matthew 28:19
"go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the father and of the son and of the holy spirit ...." watchtower 1966 october 1 pp.603-604
"we do not dedicate ourselves to a religion, nor to a man, nor to an organization.
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R R,
Surprised at first, then puzzled when I saw more, more and more angry after seeing the intensity of it.
Finally spiritually aggressive towards those, (especially elders) who could bring God down to this level, when telling me this organisation has Jehovah’s seal of approval.
The amount of lying should have been enough for me to see that they were far from god’s people but slaves of the devil, unfortunately it wasn’t.
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What's the purpose of restrictions after reinstatement?
by truthseeker inthe parable of the prodigal son.
i will set out and go back to my father and say to him: father, i have sinned against heaven and against you.
" "my son," the father said, "you are always with me, and everything i have is yours.
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Notice who resented this show of forgiveness, it was the one an only "ELDER" bro
They feel that they won’t have full control over these ones, this is just one of the ways they do it,
No real forgiveness.
2Cor. V 6 This rebuke given by the majority is SUFFICIENT ……………
v 7……….you should kindly FORGIVE and COMFORT him…………………..
The elders go far beyond that which is written
KT
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argument against the faithfull and discreet slave class ?
by KAYTEE inas an ex jw, i found that the faithful and discreet slave class (fdsc) was paramount in the make up of that religion.. prior to disfellowshiping anyone, the elders would question your loyalty to the (fdsc), disprove the existence of this class and the whole credibility of that religion collapses, remember this hinges on just three verses in math.24 v45-48.
imagine a scenario; the elders are confronting you with this dilemma, what would your argument be, against the authenticity of this class.. i know there are many on this site that could answer this very well, i know of two ladies who could put a convincing answer.. to hear your comments could greatly help many who frequent this site, that find themselves on the fringes of that religion.. kt.
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compoud complex,
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That’s the type of material that we sadly lacked when we were incarcerated, now wonder the jws steered us clear of this evil Internet. Brilliant
KT
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Hi! from a newby
by Blithe Freshman ina quick hello!, been lurking since september.. a big thank you for all i've read.. it's helped me put the fun back into dysfunction!.
blithe.
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Blithe,
Welcome to you, were you a jw. If so and you are thinking things over, you will learn more from this site than you ever did from the Org.
Here you will find an interchange of thoughts and discussion points, many that you may never have come across with the wts., the difference here being you are NOT told what to believe.
KT
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argument against the faithfull and discreet slave class ?
by KAYTEE inas an ex jw, i found that the faithful and discreet slave class (fdsc) was paramount in the make up of that religion.. prior to disfellowshiping anyone, the elders would question your loyalty to the (fdsc), disprove the existence of this class and the whole credibility of that religion collapses, remember this hinges on just three verses in math.24 v45-48.
imagine a scenario; the elders are confronting you with this dilemma, what would your argument be, against the authenticity of this class.. i know there are many on this site that could answer this very well, i know of two ladies who could put a convincing answer.. to hear your comments could greatly help many who frequent this site, that find themselves on the fringes of that religion.. kt.
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Neverendinjourney,
Very good site, very very informative, I will definitely use that site.
Kosonen,
I like your reasoning , good to put it back in their court.
Passwordprotected,
That really is on the ball.
Mary,
You didn’t disappoint me, good to show where their roots come from, how can a true religion build on such nonsense.
Wtwizard,
You mustn’t use the bible, that is really unfair.
As usual all the comments are bang on, It’s a real pity we didn’t have the internet when some of us first joined the clan. We just did not meet the thinking "brothers and sisters" back there, that you prove you are, what a shame.
Thank you I’m sure you have helped others to think for themselves.
KT
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argument against the faithfull and discreet slave class ?
by KAYTEE inas an ex jw, i found that the faithful and discreet slave class (fdsc) was paramount in the make up of that religion.. prior to disfellowshiping anyone, the elders would question your loyalty to the (fdsc), disprove the existence of this class and the whole credibility of that religion collapses, remember this hinges on just three verses in math.24 v45-48.
imagine a scenario; the elders are confronting you with this dilemma, what would your argument be, against the authenticity of this class.. i know there are many on this site that could answer this very well, i know of two ladies who could put a convincing answer.. to hear your comments could greatly help many who frequent this site, that find themselves on the fringes of that religion.. kt.
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As an ex –jw, I found that the faithful and discreet slave class (fdsc) was paramount in the make up of that religion.
Prior to disfellowshiping anyone, the elders would question your loyalty to the (fdsc), disprove the existence of this class and the whole credibility of that religion collapses, remember this hinges on just three verses in Math.24 v45-48
Imagine a scenario; the elders are confronting you with this dilemma, what would your argument be, against the authenticity of this class.
I know there are many on this site that could answer this very well, I know of two ladies who could put a convincing answer.
To hear your comments could GREATLY help many who frequent this site, that find themselves on the fringes of that religion.
KT
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Our JW Friend told by Elder "Satan is using a Pedophile to Break your Faith"
by flipper ini was given permission by a jw friend of my wife and me to post this experience.
she's anonymous and posts on the board.
she is married to a witness still but is fighting on behalf of children in her congregation to not be a next victim of a pedophile who attends her congregation.
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Flipper,
"And all it took was one catch phrase " not believing in God " to set the P.O. elder into cult protection"
Perhaps if the elders new their sriptures, and not just the ones that they like to use against the r/f , they could show some sympathy by the use of Jude 1 v 22 "Also continue showing mercy to some that have doubts " v 22 save them by snatching out of the fire...............
I found that they would use Satan for every excuse under the sun, I often asked them what excuse will they find in the new system when Satan is no longer around ?
KT