Posts by JWTom

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Collapse of JW Org - Possibly on the Horizon?

by JWTom in

this topics get a great deal of discussion here.

what i find interesting is even some of my pimi family is embracing the reality that all is not well with jw.org and that many current jws are just going through the motions due to not having a good way out of the org.

wondering what could realistically lead to the collapse of jw.org in the not distant future?

JWTom

Many, many interesting thoughts throughout the comments here. Sadly, I think the slow decline is most likely as many have suggested. My deep interest is to have something significant happen within my lifetime to minimize the influence of the organization on existing JWs which includes me and my extended family.

Likely just wishful thinking and the reality is that any JW with no good way to escape is stuck until death or until the org starts to more significantly fade away - which could be decades.

A financial shock or a global virus that kills off significant population are the only two things I could come up with that could possibly happen sometime soon.

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Collapse of JW Org - Possibly on the Horizon?

by JWTom in

this topics get a great deal of discussion here.

what i find interesting is even some of my pimi family is embracing the reality that all is not well with jw.org and that many current jws are just going through the motions due to not having a good way out of the org.

wondering what could realistically lead to the collapse of jw.org in the not distant future?

JWTom

This topics get a great deal of discussion here. What I find interesting is even some of my PIMI family is embracing the reality that all is not well with JW.org and that many current JWs are just going through the motions due to not having a good way out of the org. Wondering what could realistically lead to the collapse of JW.org in the not distant future? I find it hard to come up with anything that is a REAL, NEAR-TERM event or issue that could cause this. Seems like a slowly fading org. is more realistic. Interested to know if others have some solid thoughts in this area?

Financial Collapse: Could happen due to lawsuits and an ever diminishing amount of money coming in from R&F JWs. The older JWs that are the primary financial support are passing away and even younger PIMI JWs (myself included) have no interest in supporting JW.org in any large way.

Disease: I think this one is unlikely, but an extreme amount of death due to Covid within JW.org could lead to not enough R&F drones to keep things going. Potentially leading to the financial scenario.

That is it! Really hard to come up with any major thing that could cause this to happen.

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Congregation Letter - 2021 Magazines Delayed???

by JWTom in

we had a letter read in our cong.

last week that said the public wt and awake would be delayed during the beginning of 2021. meaning we would just use the 2020 version into 2021 and there would be no new ones at the beginning of 2021 until an undetermined time sometime during the 1st half of 2021. at least that is the gist that i remember.

it was in what atlantis provided but there was no further detail....very brief.. any more intel or speculation on this?

JWTom

We had a letter read in our cong. last week that said the public WT and Awake would be delayed during the beginning of 2021. Meaning we would just use the 2020 version into 2021 and there would be no new ones at the beginning of 2021 until an undetermined time sometime during the 1st half of 2021. At least that is the gist that I remember. It was in what Atlantis provided but there was no further detail....very brief.

Any more intel or speculation on this?

Also, no sign of 2021 Weekly Study content has been published yet....only about 6 weeks out from being in the new year.

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Is this idea of cameras in judicial hearing true? An

by Yomama in

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and no more minors in judicial hearing?.

JWTom

I think this is a misunderstanding as has been stated. I know of a minor that was in a judicial hearing recently...of course the minor was there with a parent.

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Many Jw’s Love to Speculate About the New System

by Davros in

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a comment on another thread cracked me up where the poster related what some elder said on the platform that: .

in the new system, we likely will not have genitals.” lol.

i’ve heard so much speculation from many jw’s on what will and won’t be allowed in the new system.

JWTom

Similar thoughts. I have always thought about how things are portrayed in "new system" images. All modern conveniences available, everyone looks straight out of 2020 with many modern conveniences including kiln dried lumber, modern pottery and many other construction/building conveniences.

When I talk to other JWs about this topic I tell them you need to think in terms of a house from the 1800s, animals for transportation and farming/raising livestock for food. Heating/cooking with wood. No air conditioning. On and on and on....

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The latest “special” campaign!

by DATA-DOG in

well, here ya go.... dd 🙄.

https://www.8newsnow.com/community/jehovahs-witnesses-begin-global-campaign-distribute-electronic-magazine-in-november/.

JWTom

There is nothing special about anything labeled "special" in JW land. Even many of the r and f ask why is something special.....when the content is a different version of the something presented every year with just some different language or spin on the topics.

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2020 Meeting Content/Schedule - Anyone know what is coming?

by JWTom in

hello all - no 2020 midweek meeting content has been published yet.

anyone know or hear of what will be changed for 2020 due to the pandemic?

even my pimi family (i am pimo) is scratching their heads wondering why we are still reviewing content from 2017-2019 that talk about all the future plans, field service, etc etc etc....that have all been derailed due to covid-19.

JWTom

Can someone have Atlantis share the printed version of the Jan/Feb Workbook to talk a look?

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2020 Meeting Content/Schedule - Anyone know what is coming?

by JWTom in

hello all - no 2020 midweek meeting content has been published yet.

anyone know or hear of what will be changed for 2020 due to the pandemic?

even my pimi family (i am pimo) is scratching their heads wondering why we are still reviewing content from 2017-2019 that talk about all the future plans, field service, etc etc etc....that have all been derailed due to covid-19.

JWTom

Hello All - No 2020 midweek meeting content has been published yet. Anyone know or hear of what will be changed for 2020 due to the pandemic? Even my PIMI family (i am PIMO) is scratching their heads wondering why we are still reviewing content from 2017-2019 that talk about all the future plans, field service, etc etc etc....that have all been derailed due to Covid-19.

I am hoping for a one a week meeting for everything to simplify the arrangement!

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wt organizationthimk (last week's study)

by waton in

for those who want to see how bad it really is, 2 thoughts: .

1) the article says "jehovah" gave gifts in men, but the bible in gal: 6 clearly mentions the one who ascended into heaven as the one, jesus, their reigning king, that does provides these " the captives.. of course when wt writers say jehovah they really mean the wt society.

and local elders, ms, really are wt appointees, now done by the co, a man with no assets.

JWTom

fastJEHU

There is NO difference between "inspired" and "guided by spirit".

Exactly, there is no difference. So many are brainwashed into just believing whatever is said even if it is contradictory....it is insane!

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What's the Latest re How JW's are Associating and Preaching?

by mikronboy in

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i've been out of the loop for a while so some things have passed me by.

so i'm curious how jw's are affected by the covid virus.

are they still preaching or having meetings etc?.

JWTom

All good comments, even PIMI JWs are starting to wonder "where is this all going" as the org. has not responded tot he pandemic in any meaningful way. All of the online and meeting content to date is basically the same as 2019...no adjustments at all for the 2020 pandemic experience.

There is a recent article that says the celestial chariot responds immediately and adjusts. Where is the adjustment in messaging related to meetings and video content....nothing!