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  Will Dissfellowshiped ones die at argamegedon?

  by Chichi89 in

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  any thoughts?.

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  Since it's Jesus who will do the executing, that's down to him to decide.

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  Is there a 'third' way to leave?

  by Splash in

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  2. beliefs

  once baptised, apart from death there are really just two ways to leave the congregation: df or da.. but notice this quote:.

  "does he really desire to disassociate himself, or does he simply no longer want to associate actively with the congregation?".

  - shepherd the flock of god (2010) p. 111. .

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  For completeness, under the section "Implications of Disassociation" (p.111) it says:

  Making known a firm decision to be known no longer as one of Jehovah's Witnesses.

  If the individual is agreeable, the committee should first try to speak with him and provide spiritual assistance. (GaL 6:1) Does he really desire to disassociate himself, or does he simply no longer want to associate actively with the congregation? Is the desire to disassociate prompted by doubts or discouragement? If he is adamant in his position, he should be encouraged to put his request in writing and sign it. If he does not, then the witnesses to his request should prepare a statement for the confidential files and sign it.

  To me this is saying that if he is adamant in his position to disassociate he should be encouraged to put his request in writing, since the previous sentence talks about his desire to disassociate.

  The whole section is speaking of how to handle disassociation, with a mention of an alternative - simply no longer associating with the congregation.

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  Is there a 'third' way to leave?

  by Splash in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  once baptised, apart from death there are really just two ways to leave the congregation: df or da.. but notice this quote:.

  "does he really desire to disassociate himself, or does he simply no longer want to associate actively with the congregation?".

  - shepherd the flock of god (2010) p. 111. .

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  Once baptised, apart from death there are really just two ways to leave the congregation: DF or DA.

  But notice this quote:

  "Does he really desire to disassociate himself, or does he simply no longer want to associate actively with the congregation?"

  - Shepherd the Flock of God (2010) p. 111

  Does this mean you can simply 'no longer associate actively'?, thus retaining contact with your family and friends?

  Is this recognising the Fade?

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  Australia formally charges former JW elder

  by Honesty in

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  2. child-abuse

  former jehovah's elder on sex assault charge .

  a former jehovah's witness elder who apologised to his alleged victim on facebook has been charged with two counts of indecent assault.

  richard hill will appear in the heidelberg magistrate's court on march 1 over allegations that he sexually assaulted a six-year-old girl in 1981.. the victim, now 38, told fairfax media that mr hill did everything except penetrate her - ''he tried, but couldn't manage''.. she said she ''did not realise the gravity'' of what had happened until she was about 14.. at that point she told her mother, who could not act because of a jehovah's witness rule that allegations of sexual abuse would only be acted on if two elders witnessed it, she said.. much later, the victim confronted mr hill on facebook.

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  Cedars, it's a shame you don't have a streetview pic of the local k.hall there, that would add some impact.

  Good article as always.

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  December 15 Watchtower --- A New Low in WT Anti-Intellectualism

  by Room 215 in

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  2. beliefs

  i wonder whether any of you took note of the article in the 12/15 study edition wt "the simplified watchtower .. why introduced" i couldn't believe they actually had the temerity to put such tripe into print and onto the record.. i was flat-out astonished with its put-down of vocabulary building and self-improvement:.

  one egregious example: " the time spent looking up words and explaining expressions (ostensibly from the "smart people's" watchtower) is now spent gaining an understanding of the scriptures and how they fit into the lesson.".

  one jw cited in the article actually blames her college education for causing her to fall into the bad habit of "speaking and thinking a way that was more complicated than necessary.

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  What's a "paean"?

  Splash (such a good jdub!)
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  Today's watchtower study... Ugh.

  by OneDayillBeFree in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  watchtower studies like today's really make me feel anger for this cult.

  i mean almost all of them do but this one is one of those articles that takes things too far.. i mean they are condemning the people who are trying to help/save the earth because it's "satan's" world and instead are saying that religious salesmen with magazines are doing way more than the others!like are you f**king kidding me?another reason why i hated this study article is for what some of the young ones did in response to the study.

  as one was unwrapping a piece of candy, he decided to throw the wrapper on the ground.

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  JW time is corban
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  Newbie here; my intro post :)

  by Sparlock the Wizard in

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  2. experiences

  so, i finally decided to become a member and make my first post .

  a bit about me:.

  i've been lurking around the forum for quite some time (about 6 months i think).

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  Hi Sparlock!

  Good to have you here, and well done for finding the courage to post.

  Im sure someone will answer your questions.

  In the meantime dont rush your decisions or your fade. There are many here in similar situations.

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  WT 5-15-13 Can anyone find this quote from the Boston Target ?

  by trujw in

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  2. bible

  we all know about the wt's famous quotes.

  i can't find this article from the magazine on page 9 paragraph 8 from the lincolnshire boston target uk?

  can i get some help from our crack staff her on jwn.

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  In the UK there are a lot of Target newspapers.

  They are usual a free Town newspaper, subsidised by local businesses and adverts. Very small readership no where near a national paper.

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  So tell us what it was, then--was it just YOUR OPINION?

  by Terry in

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  2. beliefs

  question for the "spokesmen" otherwise known as jehovah's witness' governing body.. how shall we identify the already published teaching which is now obsolete, adjusted, corrected and not to be used for current teaching?.

  i know you prefer to slough it off as old light because there is still "light" in that phrase.

  but, a close examination would prove that incorrect too.. .

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  @Cold Steel

  How is it plausible that Jesus examined the WT in 1919 and found them worthy of approval?

  In 1919 they were still celebrating birthdays and Christmas, had a masonic crucifix on the magazines, taught the Bridegroom had already come in 1874 so were not in expectation of him and therefore could not have been "happy" if "on arriving he found them watching for his return."

  They believed strongly in occult Pyramidology, taught Jehovah lived in the Pleiades, taught that the ancients were to be resurrected in 1925 and so built a mansion for them to live in. They allowed smoking, pictured the Edenic snake with legs, said t he "behemoth" from Job 40 was the stationary steam engine, the "leviathan" from Job 41 was the locomotive and the "valiant men" in Nahum 2:3 are the locomotive conductor and the fireman.

  They taught the horseman on the white horse in Revelation 6:2 is the Pope, the "7 messengers" in Revelation are Paul, John, Arius, Waldo, Wycliffe, Luther and Russell , the "stars that fell from the heavens" in Revelation 6:13 refers to a meteor shower on November 13, 1833, the “Time of the End” started in 1799, Michael the Archangel is “the Pope of Rome” and the angels are his bishops.

  They promised that those alive back then would never die, saluted the flag, worshipped Jesus, said the "Great Crowd" was a second class of Christians with a heavenly hope and taught many, many things which would today see you disfellowshipped for teaching them.

  Could it be that 2 Tim 3:7 applies?

  (2Ti 3:7) "always learning and yet never able to come to an accurate knowledge of truth."

  Again, is it plausible that Jesus examined the WT in 1919 and found them worthy of approval?

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  Misquotes, Lies and deception in Watchtower Publications

  by jwfacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have just finished an article misquotes, deception and lies and would like your comments, proof reading, and any other examples that you think are important to add.

  most of these already appear on jwfacts.com within specific articles, but it is more powerful seeing them included together.

  there have also been a number of requests over the years for such a collection.

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  Splash

  Under Plagiarism, wasn't there a WT front cover withdrawn after a cigarette company challenged the Soc for using it?

  If I remember it was mainly red, with a silhouetted wooden house and porch.

  Anyone remember this?

  Splash

  Update - Found it, it was a drinks company: http://www.watchtowerlies.com/watchtowerlies_063.htm